Manchester United Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 11/12

Mikeyt086 · 26-12-2011 7:31pm

Peyton Manning wrote: »

I absolutely love Wigan. We throttle them every year - it's 26-0 to us on aggregate over our last 6 meetings, and 42-4 since they've been in the PL, and they always seem to be a banana skin for a title rival at some stage every season. Quality club.

Throw in the fact that they sold us arguably their best ever player in Anto V and you have to say, operation Dave Whelan has been a huge success.

Agent Whelan has managed to infiltrate a Premier League club and become chairman, get one our favourite sons in Brucie a job, roll over and have their belly rubbed every time we come to town and yet play like warriors against the likes of Chelsea, Arsenal and Liverpool but crap against everyone else so as not to raise suspicion, sell us the only player they ever had that is good enough for us and say lovely things about us in the press.

Job well done.

Professional Griefer · 26-12-2011 7:34pm

What a great day. Time to power on in the new year.

Mitch Connor · 26-12-2011 7:36pm

see Mourinho being quoted today as saying his next job will be back in ENgland, and one he hopes to stay in for a long time.

I think he is nailed on for United, if the timing suits him/us.

Giggsy11 · 26-12-2011 7:38pm

Mitch Connor wrote: »

see Mourinho being quoted today as saying his next job will be back in ENgland, and one he hopes to stay in for a long time.

I think he is nailed on for United, if the timing suits him/us.

Time to close down our academy

MANUTD99 · 26-12-2011 7:40pm

O Neil seems to have steadied the ship at Sunderland. His factor will cause problems next week for City.

One thing that stands out recently for me. Mancini has said he thinks City has played most of the hard away games now and have advantage. This was said last week.

Fergie on the other hand is never giving anything away and always reckons its fair game this year for a few teams.

Lets not forget. City are meant to be running away with the title playing the best football and we are a team in decline.Mmmm the table shows a different stat

Mitch Connor · 26-12-2011 7:42pm

Giggsy11 wrote: »

Time to close down our academy

I remember reading stats before that showed Mourinho has an excellent record in comparison to others in giving young players chances in the first team.

If the players are good enough, his record indicates he will include them.

http://www.tribalfootball.com/articles/mourinho-made-man-utd-claims-ignoring-youth-talent-a-myth-1532821

MANUTD99 · 26-12-2011 7:46pm

Mitch Connor wrote: »

see Mourinho being quoted today as saying his next job will be back in ENgland, and one he hopes to stay in for a long time.

I think he is nailed on for United, if the timing suits him/us.

He's a natural winner but he has no morals or values. He would do anything to win which even means outside the rules. I wouldn't like him at United.

flahavaj · 26-12-2011 7:48pm

Mitch Connor wrote: »

i'd prefer Pogba or Morrison to be taking that '8th choice' midfielder.

No way. Give me a straight choice beteen the three to start a PL game in CM and its Gibbo any day of the week. Pogba in particular i miles away. positionally he still has so much to learn. Hes a year or two at least away yet IMO.

Necronomicon · 26-12-2011 7:49pm

Mitch Connor wrote: »

see Mourinho being quoted today as saying his next job will be back in ENgland, and one he hopes to stay in for a long time.

I think he is nailed on for United, if the timing suits him/us.

This is key, and it's why I'm not so sure the move will happen. When you consider the average tenure of a Real Madrid head coach (in the last decade at least) it's hard to picture Mourinho staying in the job for the length of time it will take Fergie to retire.

Blatter · 26-12-2011 7:49pm

MANUTD99 wrote: »

He's a natural winner but he has no morals or values. He would do anything to win which even means outside the rules. I wouldn't like him at United.

You could almost write the same sentence about Ferguson tbh.:D

Giggsy11 · 26-12-2011 7:50pm

Mitch Connor wrote: »

I remember reading stats before that showed Mourinho has an excellent record in comparison to others in giving young players chances in the first team.

If the players are good enough, his record indicates he will include them.

http://www.tribalfootball.com/articles/mourinho-made-man-utd-claims-ignoring-youth-talent-a-myth-1532821

Thats a good read. Wasn't aware of it. Fair play to him.

Professional Griefer · 26-12-2011 7:51pm

Wouldn't mind Mourinho tbh. Last year I would have said no way, slowly warming to the thought of him coming in.

Giggsy11 · 26-12-2011 7:51pm

Blatter wrote: »

You could almost write the same sentence about Ferguson tbh.:D

No way. I haven't seen Fergie poking someone in the eye. To be precise your rival's assistant

flahavaj · 26-12-2011 7:52pm

Mitch Connor wrote: »

see Mourinho being quoted today as saying his next job will be back in ENgland, and one he hopes to stay in for a long time.

I think he is nailed on for United, if the timing suits him/us.

The only man for the job IMO.

Terrified City will get him though.

shadowcomplex · 26-12-2011 7:52pm

I would like to reiterate my desire to see Valencia made into a permanent right full back, as a rightwinger he crosses the ball very well but is limited in trickery and skill but he is very sound defensively, you could argue hes better defensively than rafael

Mitch Connor · 26-12-2011 7:52pm

MANUTD99 wrote: »

He's a natural winner but he has no morals or values. He would do anything to win which even means outside the rules. I wouldn't like him at United.

he wouldn't be my first choice - but I would still say he is one of the few managers around that could take over from Fergie at OT and I wouldn't worry about their ability to handle the pressure of taking over from Fergie. He would relish the prospect.

Also, he is an old school manager in terms of wanting complete control of the team and the club (in football terms) which I think is important.

Basically, I think he is the most Fergie like manager around and would offer the most seemless transition for the club and the squad. I think we will need someone with a strong personality, and there is no doubt he has that.

Blatter · 26-12-2011 7:56pm

Giggsy11 wrote: »

No way. I haven't seen Fergie poking someone in the eye. To be precise your rival's assistant

Obviously Fergie doesn't go that far, but he does pretty much everything he can to ensure his side wins. His manipulation of the media is one of the biggest things that gets overlooked, but you won't hear me complaining about it:D

IMO Mourinho is the man to take over at OT whenever SAF decides to call it a day.

Blatter · 26-12-2011 7:59pm

shadowcomplex wrote: »

I would like to reiterate my desire to see Valencia made into a permanent right full back, as a rightwinger he crosses the ball very well but is limited in trickery and skill but he is very sound defensively, you could argue hes better defensively than rafael

Nah, he's an out and out winger imo. He's OK at RB against poorer sides, would worry about him there positionally against decent teams.

MANUTD99 · 26-12-2011 8:04pm

Blatter wrote: »

Obviously Fergie doesn't go that far, but he does pretty much everything he can to ensure his side wins. His manipulation of the media is one of the biggest things that gets overlooked, but you won't hear me complaining about it:D

IMO Mourinho is the man to take over at OT whenever SAF decides to call it a day.

I would wonder how David Moyes would get on at a big club. It would be a massive gamble but I would just wonder how he would get on at a big club

shadowcomplex · 26-12-2011 8:06pm

MANUTD99 wrote: »

I would wonder how David Moyes would get on at a big club. It would be a massive gamble but I would just wonder how he would get on at a big club

No Thanks

Giggsy11 · 26-12-2011 8:08pm

Blatter wrote: »

Obviously Fergie doesn't go that far, but he does pretty much everything he can to ensure his side wins. His manipulation of the media is one of the biggest things that gets overlooked, but you won't hear me complaining about it:D

IMO Mourinho is the man to take over at OT whenever SAF decides to call it a day.

His manipulation of the media is top class, Jose's playing with media is also awesome. I'm really on fence about Jose. I prefer Half Jose and Half Pep

Giggsy11 · 26-12-2011 8:16pm

For me Jurgen Klopp would have been in contention but his lack of experience in Europe would be against him IMO.

Cantona's Collars · 26-12-2011 8:22pm

Giggsy11 wrote: »

His manipulation of the media is top class, Jose's playing with media is also awesome. I'm really on fence about Jose. I prefer Half Jose and Half Pep

Jose Guardiola has a nice ring to it.

Was in a panic when I saw the lineup today,look what happened the last time.

I do hope Fergie doesn't use today's result as an excuse not to buy during January,we seriously need quality backup.Thank god Wigan were so poor today even though they had some chances that a top side wouldn't have missed.

Blatter · 26-12-2011 8:22pm

Michael Carrick (defensive mid) has more goals/assists in 733 mins than Stewart Downing (winger) & Andy Carroll (striker) combined in 2,247.

Stats can be hilarious sometimes:pac:

Professional Griefer · 26-12-2011 8:23pm

MANUTD99 wrote: »

I would wonder how David Moyes would get on at a big club. It would be a massive gamble but I would just wonder how he would get on at a big club

My best friend is a Everton fan and he always says that he'll end up at United. Hate the thought of it. Brilliant manager for a club like Everton. Reckon he'd be a disaster at a top club.

MANUTD99 · 26-12-2011 8:24pm

Giggsy11 wrote: »

His manipulation of the media is top class, Jose's playing with media is also awesome. I'm really on fence about Jose. I prefer Half Jose and Half Pep

I never like his style of football at Chelsea. Very defensive minded I thought. While at Man United the philosophy is completely different. Counter attacking rip your team apart football. This was even the style under Matt Busby and less successfully with Docherty, Sexton and Atkinson

Giggsy11 · 26-12-2011 8:27pm

zerks wrote: »

Jose Guardiola has a nice ring to it.

Was in a panic when I saw the lineup today,look what happened the last time.

I do hope Fergie doesn't use today's result as an excuse not to buy during January,we seriously need quality backup.Thank god Wigan were so poor today even though they had some chances that a top side wouldn't have missed.

If anything it was very good display from our back ups. We have very good back ups, we need one proper CM who can take us to next level.

Lindegaard - back up
Valencia - back up as RB
Carrick - back up as CB
Evans - 3rd or 4th choice
Evra - 1st choice

Nani - 1st choice
Gibson - Nth choice
Giggs- I would say Back up as Carrick, Fletcher, Anderson, Cleverley should be ahead in the pecking order
Park - back up

Berba - 4th choice maybe?
Hernandez - 1st choice or 3rd choice. Varies.

I would say we have excellent back ups.

Mars Bar · 26-12-2011 8:30pm

MANUTD99 wrote: »

I never like his style of football at Chelsea. Very defensive minded I thought. While at Man United the philosophy is completely different. Counter attacking rip your team apart football. This was even the style under Matt Busby and less successfully with Docherty, Sexton and Atkinson

His current Real Madrid team are one of the better counter attacking teams. I love watching them play!

MANUTD99 · 26-12-2011 8:30pm

Giggsy11 wrote: »

For me Jurgen Klopp would have been in contention but his lack of experience in Europe would be against him IMO.

My missus is German so take it from me. Germans hate leaving Germany. He is a future Munich manager

Giggsy11 · 26-12-2011 8:30pm

MANUTD99 wrote: »

I never like his style of football at Chelsea. Very defensive minded I thought. While at Man United the philosophy is completely different. Counter attacking rip your team apart football. This was even the style under Matt Busby and less successfully with Docherty, Sexton and Atkinson

Tbh his team played attacking football last season and this season. Yeah they are miles ahead of other teams in La Liga bar Barca but they have done the same in Champions league too. I'm sure he will play attacking football if he comes here.

I'm not defending him as I have no clue on who I want. As I said I'm on fence and I dont want to think about Post SAF

Manchester United Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 11/12

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