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Ubuntu Laptop?

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  • 22-01-2014 11:57am
    #1
    MyBusinez.com
    Registered Users Posts: 118 ✭✭


    Hi all,
    Just wondering if anyone knows where I can buy a laptop without an operating system or with Ubuntu already installed on it? I've been scouring the web and can't find anywhere that will sell me a laptop with Ubuntu on it. They would rather lose a sale than put Ubuntu on a laptop for me. What a joke. Any ideas?
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    youllneverknow
    Registered Users Posts: 417 ✭✭youllneverknow


    they may have an agreement with who ever provides an OS.
    why not buy one with an OS then install Ubuntu yourself.


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    cintec
    Registered Users Posts: 705 ✭✭✭cintec


    There are a few on amazon you could always buy a second HDD and install ubuntu on it or add a second partition and dual boot.

    http://www.amazon.co.uk/wUbuntu-i7-3632QM-Processor-Graphics-Windows/dp/B00DAGPAFG/ref=sr_1_5?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1390388421&sr=1-5&keywords=laptop+ubuntu


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    PrzemoF
    Registered Users Posts: 1,931 ✭✭✭PrzemoF


    MyBusinez.com wrote: »
    Hi all,
    Just wondering if anyone knows where I can buy a laptop without an operating system or with Ubuntu already installed on it? I've been scouring the web and can't find anywhere that will sell me a laptop with Ubuntu on it. They would rather lose a sale than put Ubuntu on a laptop for me. What a joke. Any ideas?
    check pcspecialist.co.uk
    I bought a no OS laptop there, DYI configured to work with linux


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    PrzemoF
    Registered Users Posts: 1,931 ✭✭✭PrzemoF


    youllneverknow wrote: »
    they may have an agreement with who ever provides an OS.
    why not buy one with an OS then install Ubuntu yourself.

    "An OS" is not free [1] even if you can't find price tag.

    [1] free like price = zero


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    Skrynesaver
    Registered Users Posts: 1,109 ✭✭✭Skrynesaver


    Actually, when you account for the cost of QA before releasing your hardware running a "small" OS and the revenue from installing crapware on the shipped OS, a free[1] OS is probably more expensive for a hardware manufacturer to ship.

    I say this as a predominantly Linux user.


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    youllneverknow
    Registered Users Posts: 417 ✭✭youllneverknow


    PrzemoF wrote: »
    "An OS" is not free [1] even if you can't find price tag.

    [1] free like price = zero

    You're not making sense, Ubuntu is free.


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    PrzemoF
    Registered Users Posts: 1,931 ✭✭✭PrzemoF


    youllneverknow wrote: »
    You're not making sense, Ubuntu is free.
    Yes, free as in beer and free as in freedom.

    I thought you're suggesting to buy a windows laptop and remove windows afterwards. And widows is not free (like price = zero) even if there is no price tag.

    Just to clarify: "an OS" is a non linux system for me. Linux is _the_ system.

    P.S. I hope the word "libre" will find it's way into English language :-)


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    jester77
    Registered Users Posts: 11,262 ✭✭✭✭jester77


    Dell sell a developer laptop that comes with Ubuntu installed.


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    ElectroJazz
    Closed Accounts Posts: 176 ✭✭ElectroJazz


    Have a look here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_refund
    It's possible to buy a computer and if you don't activate the pre-installed Windows you can seek a refund from Microsoft and just install Ubuntu yourself.
    It seems to be a bit hit and miss with people successfully getting refunds though.


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    youllneverknow
    Registered Users Posts: 417 ✭✭youllneverknow


    PrzemoF wrote: »
    Yes, free as in beer and free as in freedom.

    I thought you're suggesting to buy a windows laptop and remove windows afterwards. And widows is not free (like price = zero) even if there is no price tag.

    Just to clarify: "an OS" is a non linux system for me. Linux is _the_ system.

    P.S. I hope the word "libre" will find it's way into English language :-)

    Oh right I understand you now.
    I was suggesting buying a Windows machine as an alternative.


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    croo
    Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 1,333 Mod ✭✭✭✭croo


    Not sure if it still happens but, once upon a time, microsoft would distribute CD/DVD/License in a package with the license and this would indicate that "opening the package meant you agreed to the terms of the license" and if you disagreed then return the package for a refund. So people starting doing just that.

    But do they still do that? I know there are people on boards that have done it in the past...


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    biko
    Registered Users Posts: 81,223 ✭✭✭✭biko


    I just took an old lappy I have and installed Ubuntu 12.4 on it without issue.
    You can choose to have dual boot if you like.


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    ChRoMe
    Registered Users Posts: 2,021 ✭✭✭ChRoMe


    croo wrote: »
    Not sure if it still happens but, once upon a time, microsoft would distribute CD/DVD/License in a package with the license and this would indicate that "opening the package meant you agreed to the terms of the license" and if you disagreed then return the package for a refund. So people starting doing just that.

    But do they still do that? I know there are people on boards that have done it in the past...

    There was a story years ago where someone went to the bother of screengrabbing every stage of them declining the EULA and then they attempted to get the money back, pretty sure it worked. However its a huge amount of effort for little return.


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    #15
    vimal_andrew
    Registered Users Posts: 27 ✭vimal_andrew


    I am using an Ubuntu laptop bought from Amazon.co.uk. Its name is meenee. It is wonderful, it costed me 275 pounds. When I got it, it costed total of 300 euros inclusing postage and customs.
    I like this laptop so much. It weighs only 1kg. I bought it 6 months ago. Also I found the same laptop is available from chinese online retailer tinydeal.com with a price of only 140 dollars. You may need to pay customs and postage additionally. My friend bought a mobile from lightinthebox.com recently which is also a chinese website. So I think it is safe to buy from there.
    I got the lap with ubuntu. I reinstalled ubuntu and installed gnome 3 desktop. It is excellently working. I am a full time programmer and also watches videos. All these work well. It has an Atom processor 1.6 ghz. So for using programming, videos like youtube, all videos, websites it works excellently. I don't know about gaming.
    Anyway laptop looks very nice and cute compared to those 2kg and 3kg laptops that are vaialble in our market.


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    Sparks
    Registered Users Posts: 40,055 ✭✭✭✭Sparks


    I've used these guys a few times, they sell second-hand refurbished laptops, some with windows, some not. I tend to stick to the old thinkpad line for second-hand stuff though, those things are pretty bulletproof compared to Dells and the like.


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    ChRoMe
    Registered Users Posts: 2,021 ✭✭✭ChRoMe


    Sparks wrote: »
    I've used these guys a few times, they sell second-hand refurbished laptops, some with windows, some not. I tend to stick to the old thinkpad line for second-hand stuff though, those things are pretty bulletproof compared to Dells and the like.

    Another vote for anything with a thinkpad badge.


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    croo
    Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 1,333 Mod ✭✭✭✭croo


    My Thinkpad W520 recently died suddenly. First time that has ever happened... i think quality has slipped. Lenovo did offered to replace it with their new W540, which is something, but I'm really not liking the look of the new keyboard! And the keyboard was always a big selling point to me previously. I think if I was actually buying today I would no longer choose a Thinkpad - and they've always been my first choice.
    Sparks wrote: »
    ... I tend to stick to the old thinkpad line for second-hand stuff though, those things are pretty bulletproof compared to Dells and the like.
    But an older model might be an idea ok.


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    #19
    Sparks
    Registered Users Posts: 40,055 ✭✭✭✭Sparks


    Yeah, I had horrible problems with a 520 and ubuntu, wouldn't recommend it at all, but my 500's been solid for the last three or four years, my S205 has worked like a champ everywhere I've brought it, my X61 didn't blink at -30C in Finland (in fact I bought a second one off itsco recently for Herself Indoors even though it's an old design, it impressed me that much), and my R61 is still going strong after almost seven years of nonstop use (though it's on its third hard drive at this point).

    The newer ones have definitely taken an odd turn (don't forget, IBM sold off that division to Lenovo a few years ago), but the older models were absolutely bulletproof. Love those things.


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    #20
    MyBusinez.com
    Registered Users Posts: 118 ✭✭MyBusinez.com


    Thanks for all the replies. I ended up creating an Ubuntu boot drive on USB and running it alongside windows for a few days on my original laptop. After that I just wiped Windows. Won't be going back either. I've been using Ubuntu for about 3 months now and loving it. I had a few problems with speed at the start when I had 1.2million windows open in Chromium as well as Libre, Email clients and music but managed to optimise it to run even with the 1.2million windows open. Delighted I made the move. I won't need a new computer now for another couple of years but will get one soon.


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