Taxi Strike

GTE · 13-03-2010 1:48am

I may not be liked for this opinion, although poll results so far say I may be but the way I see it is:

There is a core base of drivers who have been doing it for most of their lives or have come into the professional genuinely and offer a fantastic quality of work.

However, this core base of drivers in recent years has been saturated and over saturated to bursting point. This has happened to such a degree that it is now mathematically impossible for this core of drivers (not to mention the newer drivers) to make the money they need and the money to live that they deserve for the service they provide and now we have high prices almost across the board.

I think that there were complaints about this a few years ago? Im almost positive there was an issue about how many taxis out there now.

So the recent measures that have been brought in to cut down on this over saturation, namely higher quality cars in terms of age (which is something Im still iffy about) and also by raising prices of registering (Im not too familiar with this) are now being attacked by taxi drivers, the majority of anyway.

The way I see it is that strict rules need to be implemented that are going to make some drivers have to hand in their license due to not meeting some sort of criteria. Raising the prices of licences now I think is too early, the money is being spread too thin to have that work for the core drivers.
I have no sympathy for the drivers who got into the job because they thought they could charge high and make a quick Euro. I do have sympathy for the drivers who had a family sustaining business before the over saturation got as bad as it is.

I dont agree that the taxi drivers should be giving out like they have been recently as a whole about the lack of money thats able to be made when what I can assume is the majority of these people are the problem with the taxi service in the first place.

Overall I think what Im saying above is as logical and unbiased as I can make it. The following is some personal crap that annoys the hell out of me.
I have no sympathy for the taxi drivers around Ballyfermot college who take up about 20 spaces on average that could be used by students and shoppers (tesco nextdoor). They wait around in a little gang for most of the day and I would be more then happy to have them piss off somewhere else. The college is small and the capacity is at its limits with many many many students commuting in from as far as Mullingar and when they strike and take the same number or spaces if not more again?

Green Gooner · 13-03-2010 1:54am

logonmar wrote: »

According to RTE taxis are threatening to go on strike as from 18th March.
http://www.rte.ie/news/2010/0310/taxi.html

Am I missing something as taxi groupings & unions continually go on, and on, about limiting the number of taxi licences.
There is no limit on most other occupations be it carpenters, bus drivers, plumbers, shop owners, restaurants, couriers or whatever. For the most part, it is simply a case of letting supply & demand dictate the market place for these other occupations.
What makes taxis so special?

Yes its tough for them, at the moment, but in my view a person that becomes unemployed in 2010 has every bit as much of a right to try their hand at earning a living by driving a taxi as someone that became unemployed in 2009, 2008 etc.
We are not limiting building occupations just because we currently have far more people with trades etc. than are currently needed.

Its only a few years since taxis treated the public like dirt and it was impossible to find a taxi on a weekend night.
Now Ireland is like every other country and one can get a taxi when one needs one and that is the way it should be.

In my view there should be no limit on numbers and just like everything else let supply & demand dictate rather than legislation.
Therefore I simply would let them go on strike and not give in to their bully boy tactics.

Am I missing something or do others agree?

Good pont! In the local papers in my area's taxi's said they are forced to work long hours. Fair enough but I heard they shouldnt because of insurance reason's working too long etc...anyone elese hear that?

i57dwun4yb1pt8 · 13-03-2010 2:02am

taxi driving scum

give it to em good Regulator !

Spook_ie · 13-03-2010 6:42am

koolkid wrote: »

And if that directive had the opposite effect you would also be fighting for it yes??:rolleyes:
You are saying what you want all the time. But you are not answering the question . Why should taxi drivers be protected from competition.
Don't say its not about stopping part time taxi drivers. No one belives that.

The relevance being you are saying you don't condone these things but you administer on a site that is allowing & promoting such activities.

by the opposite effect, do you mean a minimum working week or that self employed wouldn't be allowed to do PAYE?

Yet again, I am not asking for protection, if someone wants to give up a PAYE job to become a taxi driver then fine, I don't see that as protection.

I'm an advocate for (fairly) free speech, why would I deny anyone a chance for speaking for or against activities, If you botherered to read, most of the threads usualy have a number of proponants for and against the thread, some threads get overwhelming support, some of them get shot to pieces but at the end of it. it's just peoples opinions whether you agree with them or not

Spook_ie · 13-03-2010 6:44am

Capt'n Midnight wrote: »

Section 36 - 2003 and you are saying it's remaining to be commenced :eek:
http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/2003/en/act/pub/0025/sec0036.html

correct it's still not in force

Spook_ie · 13-03-2010 7:15am

opinion guy wrote: »

Ok this is a country where doctors do regularly work 60 hour shifts you realise with potentially zero sleep.

But thats not the issue. Fair enough the safety issue with relation to driving jobs is fair enough I see that. But why can't someone work 8 horus in their paye job and 3 hours taxiing ?
But spookie was objecting to anyone with paye job being self employed in any industry. I want to know what the problem is ?
As long as some one is obeying the rules of each job regards rest periods etc, then why should they not have 2, 3 or even 4 jobs if they want ?

Because the majority ( if not all ) of PAYE who taxi don't work 3 hours after an 8 hour shift, they work 7-12 hours after an 8 hour shift, then another shift on the Saturday and then some even do a few hours on a Sunday.

I am specifically against PAYE driving taxis but to be fair if it was to be implemented then it would I imagine have to cover all self employed work.

As regards the doctors, if they are working regularly in excess of 60 hours, they are in contravention of S.I 494 of 2004, however, if they are classified as doctors in training, the rules are somewhat different, but again if they are regularly working in excess of 60 hours per week they would still be in contravention of the same act

Spook_ie · 13-03-2010 7:19am

Capt'n Midnight wrote: »

http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/2004/en/si/0817.html

If a person sitting at a desk isn't allowed work more than an average of 48 hours a week or more than 13 hours in a day then why should someone sitting at the wheel be allowed to ?

Don't get me started on the the working time directive and Junior Doctors , I can remember when they got paid LESS when they did overtime :mad:

Legaly a taxi driver isn't allowed to work 13 hours, the maximum permissable under current legislation is an 11 hour shift, and only 3 such shifts in a 3 day period, why then should someone be allowed to work 8 hours behind a desk and then be "legaly" allowed to work a further 11 hours behind the wheel of a taxi if they so desired?

KoolKid · 13-03-2010 12:56pm

Spook_ie wrote: »

by the opposite effect, do you mean a minimum working week or that self employed wouldn't be allowed to do PAYE?

I mean if there was an anomoly which stopped PAYE workers working part time but allowed the self employed to work all they want, would you be so eager to correct that? I don't think so.

Spook_ie wrote: »

Yet again, I am not asking for protection, if someone wants to give up a PAYE job to become a taxi driver then fine, I don't see that as protection.

So you are just campaigning for everyones rights yes?
See above.

Spook_ie wrote: »

If you botherered to read, most of the threads .

Very presumtious of you, I have read them all
Its very clear to me from reading thread here & on other forums that the simple fact is taxi drivers dont want part time workers in the industry.
You say you are all for peoples rights. These people have the right to work part time if they want to. What about thier rights.
It must me pure coincidence that the rights you campaign for will give you unfair protection against competition.
A question for you. Its hypotetical, but please just answer yes or no if you can.
If all the part timer agreed to leave thier PAYE jobs & only work as Taxi Drivers would you be sadisfied with that?
No Part timers & No PAYE Workers in the industry?
Does that meet your requirements?

opinion guy · 13-03-2010 4:02pm

Spook_ie wrote: »

Because the majority ( if not all ) of PAYE who taxi don't work 3 hours after an 8 hour shift, they work 7-12 hours after an 8 hour shift, then another shift on the Saturday and then some even do a few hours on a Sunday.

But this is a regulatory issue. The answer is not to ban these people, for fundamental that would breach their rights, the answer is to properly regulate how people in this category work.

As regards the doctors, if they are working regularly in excess of 60 hours, they are in contravention of S.I 494 of 2004, however, if they are classified as doctors in training, the rules are somewhat different, but again if they are regularly working in excess of 60 hours per week they would still be in contravention of the same act

Well actually its their employers who are in breach. And yes they have been in breach since that act came in - but the individual doctors do not have a choice - they can't simply walk out when they reach the limit if their employer has not hired in someone to take over.

Spook_ie · 13-03-2010 4:21pm

koolkid wrote: »

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A question for you. Its hypotetical, but please just answer yes or no if you can.
If all the part timer agreed to leave thier PAYE jobs & only work as Taxi Drivers would you be sadisfied with that?
No Part timers & No PAYE Workers in the industry?
Does that meet your requirements?

Yes

Spook_ie · 13-03-2010 4:41pm

koolkid wrote: »

I mean if there was an anomoly which stopped PAYE workers working part time but allowed the self employed to work all they want, would you be so eager to correct that? I don't think so.

So you are just campaigning for everyones rights yes?
See above.

Very presumtious of you, I have read them all
Its very clear to me from reading thread here & on other forums that the simple fact is taxi drivers dont want part time workers in the industry.
You say you are all for peoples rights. These people have the right to work part time if they want to. What about thier rights.
It must me pure coincidence that the rights you campaign for will give you unfair protection against competition.
A question for you. Its hypotetical, but please just answer yes or no if you can.
If all the part timer agreed to leave thier PAYE jobs & only work as Taxi Drivers would you be sadisfied with that?
No Part timers & No PAYE Workers in the industry?
Does that meet your requirements?

Point 1 If it was deemed by someone that all self employed people were to be limited by the EUWTD I would have no problem with that

Point 2 If it was deemed that taxi drivers and other drivers of vehicles being used for reward/hire were obliged to work a maximum number of hours I would have no problem with that

Point 3 I'm not campaigning for everyones rights but whatever results any such campaign acheived I would be prepared to have them accepted across the board

Now straight yes or no question for you, you'll note I did give you a straight yes/no answer to your question in a seperate repy.

Is it in the publics interest to be transported by a driver who hasn't worked excessive hours?

Spook_ie · 13-03-2010 4:55pm

opinion guy wrote: »

But this is a regulatory issue. The answer is not to ban these people, for fundamental that would breach their rights, the answer is to properly regulate how people in this category work.

Well actually its their employers who are in breach. And yes they have been in breach since that act came in - but the individual doctors do not have a choice - they can't simply walk out when they reach the limit if their employer has not hired in someone to take over.

There is a requisite for the CTR to license taxi drivers, the CTR is enpowered to attach whatever "restrictions" that may be deemed as fit for purpose in serving the interests of the travelling public ( You ) and stakeholders ( Me ), if it was seen to be in the interests of either ( preferably both ) then any such provision could be enacted.

Now the question is, would either parties interests be better served by restricting the license conditions to prevent people from driving a taxi after already completing a set number of hours?

KoolKid · 13-03-2010 5:03pm

So then you are happy to have more taxis on the road. But on condition you can,t do anything else as well.That would be of no benefit to anyone. Sounds very petty to me.

Spook_ie · 13-03-2010 5:18pm

koolkid wrote: »

So then you are happy to have more taxis on the road. But on condition you can,t do anything else as well.That would be of no be benefit to anyone. Sounds very petty to me.

Why would that be, do you not think that genuine market forces would then be in play and it would find it's own levell

KoolKid · 13-03-2010 6:05pm

Spook_ie wrote: »

Why would that be, do you not think that genuine market forces would then be in play and it would find it's own levell

Do you?... all of a sudden?
You need to stop contrdicting yourself.
Everytime that has been suggested you said the Taxi Industry is different.
But as usual as soon as something is in your favour its different.

Spook_ie · 13-03-2010 6:35pm

koolkid wrote: »

Do you?... all of a sudden?
You need to stop contrdicting yourself.
Everytime that has been suggested you said the Taxi Industry is different.
But as usual as soon as something is in your favour its different.

Wrong, note the emphasis on GENUINE

BTW I notice how you simply miis out/gloss over my requests for simple yes/no answers

opinion guy · 13-03-2010 6:57pm

Spook_ie wrote: »

Wrong, note the emphasis on GENUINE

BTW I notice how you simply miis out/gloss over my requests for simple yes/no answers

Ok I'll bite :rolleyes:

Define genuine

KoolKid · 13-03-2010 7:07pm

Spook_ie wrote: »

BTW I notice how you simply miis out/gloss over my requests for simple yes/no answers

Not sure what miis out means...
But where have I simply given yes/ no answers.
As for selecting what to reply to, your the expert there.

Spook_ie · 13-03-2010 7:15pm

Spook_ie wrote: »

snipped

Now straight yes or no question for you, you'll note I did give you a straight yes/no answer to your question in a seperate repy.

Is it in the publics interest to be transported by a driver who hasn't worked excessive hours?

I'll repeat the question for you KK

Spook_ie · 13-03-2010 7:16pm

koolkid wrote: »

Not sure what miis out means...
But where have I simply given yes/ no answers.
As for selecting what to reply to, your the expert there.

Typo for miss, you realy are getting desperate now, as to yes/no you've never answered any staright yes/no answers put to you, where as I have, would seem to indicate you are unsure of your comvictions or grounds for argument.

Given that I'm only one person I would think some leeway would be applicable as I do sometimes miss out pn sentient points from posters, but not deliberately, I would never be as crass as that, if anyone feels I have missed their post feel free to re ask any pertinent question again

Spook_ie · 13-03-2010 7:24pm

opinion guy wrote: »

Ok I'll bite :rolleyes:

Define genuine

A market whereby no individual or group of individuals has a distinct advantage over another individual or group of individuals in the same market

Spook_ie · 13-03-2010 7:25pm

koolkid wrote: »

Not sure what miis out means...
But where have I simply given yes/ no answers.
As for selecting what to reply to, your the expert there.

QFT

opinion guy · 13-03-2010 7:29pm

Spook_ie wrote: »

A market whereby no individual or group of individuals has a distinct advantage over another individual or group of individuals in the same market

So whats stopping you getting a PAYE job also ?

Spook_ie · 13-03-2010 7:35pm

opinion guy wrote: »

So whats stopping you getting a PAYE job also ?

I don't believe it would be safe for me to do a PAYE job and then go out taxiing, if I were to get a PAYE job I'd sell the plate and car to some unsuspecting sucker

KoolKid · 13-03-2010 7:40pm

Spook_ie wrote: »

Typo for miss, you realy are getting desperate now, as to yes/no you've never answered any staright yes/no answers put to you, where as I have, would seem to indicate you are unsure of your comvictions or grounds for argument.

Given that I'm only one person I would think some leeway would be applicable as I do sometimes miss out pn sentient points from posters, but not deliberately, I would never be as crass as that, if anyone feels I have missed their post feel free to re ask any pertinent question again

I did not understand what you wrote, and simply said so. Bit OTT of a reply there.
If you want a yes/no answer just say so, but allow me to qualify an answer.

Joey the lips · 13-03-2010 7:43pm

I have a little understanding for them however I have learned that any poll on boards is never supportive of any affirmative action...

KoolKid · 13-03-2010 7:45pm

opinion guy wrote: »

So whats stopping you getting a PAYE job also ?

Nothing is stopping him . However I would love. To know how many taxi drivers would turn down a part time PAYE job if one was offered.
Would you Spook?

opinion guy · 13-03-2010 9:11pm

Spook_ie wrote: »

I don't believe it would be safe for me to do a PAYE job and then go out taxiing, if I were to get a PAYE job I'd sell the plate and car to some unsuspecting sucker

So you choose not to do it. How then do those who choose to have both a PAYE and self-employed taxiing job have an unfair advantage ? And please do not stoop to the red-herring of safety/time driving. You could easily work a 39 hour week in 4 or 5 days a week in your PAYE job and taxi on your days off. You can chose how many or how little hours you spend taxiing.

Your argument of unfair advantage and biased compeition is fallacious.

FlutterinBantam · 13-03-2010 9:25pm

These gimps deserve nothing.

Got a cab last night after a long wait from the Stillorgan park to home.

Fcuker was working somewhere during the day, fcuking teacher I'd say, and never shut up about the public service' beating from the Govt.' and how he had to sell an apt. in Valencia to survive.

Absolute asshole, left a quart of sour piss on his back seat, which hopefully slowed up the fcuker a bit.

Give us a break!!

opinion guy · 13-03-2010 9:34pm

FlutterinBantam wrote: »

Absolute asshole, left a quart of sour piss on his back seat, which hopefully slowed up the fcuker a bit.

You piss on his seat and he's the asshole ?
See its attitudes an actions like this that make me have sympathy for the taxi drivers.

Formal shorts · 14-03-2010 4:14am

FlutterinBantam wrote: »

These gimps deserve nothing.

Got a cab last night after a long wait from the Stillorgan park to home.

Fcuker was working somewhere during the day, fcuking teacher I'd say, and never shut up about the public service' beating from the Govt.' and how he had to sell an apt. in Valencia to survive.

Absolute asshole, left a quart of sour piss on his back seat, which hopefully slowed up the fcuker a bit.

Give us a break

"My name is FlutterinBantam, and tonight Matthew, I'm going to be an absolute c/u/nt"

barochoc · 14-03-2010 2:21pm

Capt'n Midnight wrote: »

Not all taxi drivers are as bad as people like to make out , BUT most days I see taxi drivers do stuff that would get them pulled over in other countries.

Out of curiosity do taxi's have to use bus lanes when they are travelling slower than other traffic ?
When they are driving in the middle lane of the Lucan Bypass at 5kmph less than everyone else, should they have to move TWO lanes to the left OR is it OK for them to force people into the rightmost lane as undertaking in the empty left lane is illegal ?

They've more right to be there than you or me. They work on the road all day!
I thought it was pretty obvious !!!! :pac:

Am I right in saying that taxi's can only use the bus lane when carrying passengers?

KoolKid · 14-03-2010 2:30pm

barochoc wrote: »

Am I right in saying that taxi's can only use the bus lane when carrying passengers?

http://www.taxireps.com/images/nphta/buslanes_may18.pdf

Spook_ie · 14-03-2010 3:27pm

koolkid wrote: »

Nothing is stopping him . However I would love. To know how many taxi drivers would turn down a part time PAYE job if one was offered.
Would you Spook?

Would I turn down a PAYE job if one was offered? Probably not, but then I wouldn't drive a taxi of the weekend either!

The reason I would probably take it, I would then be able to qualify for Social Welfare based on the class A contributions from the PAYE and could declare the business insolvent and go on the Social, dispose of the taxi plate and car etc. and write off the loss on them to CGT

Spook_ie · 14-03-2010 3:38pm

opinion guy wrote: »

So you choose not to do it. How then do those who choose to have both a PAYE and self-employed taxiing job have an unfair advantage ? And please do not stoop to the red-herring of safety/time driving. You could easily work a 39 hour week in 4 or 5 days a week in your PAYE job and taxi on your days off. You can chose how many or how little hours you spend taxiing.

Your argument of unfair advantage and biased compeition is fallacious.

Just because you can do it, doesn't make it right.

You say to avoid the red herring of safety, I will but it does entail me asking you and anyone else who has the same/similar question

Do you believe the public interest is served better by a driver who hasn't been working in another job before coming out to work in a taxi to drive you home? It's a simple Yes or No question

Spook_ie · 14-03-2010 3:39pm

barochoc wrote: »

They've more right to be there than you or me. They work on the road all day!
I thought it was pretty obvious !!!! :pac:

Am I right in saying that taxi's can only use the bus lane when carrying passengers?

No taxis may use the buslane when engaged in the course of their business

Spook_ie · 14-03-2010 3:47pm

Spook_ie wrote: »

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Now straight yes or no question for you, you'll note I did give you a straight yes/no answer to your question in a seperate repy.

Is it in the publics interest to be transported by a driver who hasn't worked excessive hours?

Spook_ie wrote: »

I'll repeat the question for you KK

koolkid wrote: »

I did not understand what you wrote, and simply said so. Bit OTT of a reply there.
If you want a yes/no answer just say so, but allow me to qualify an answer.

I'll repeat it again for you

opinion guy · 14-03-2010 3:55pm

Spook_ie wrote: »

Just because you can do it, doesn't make it right.

You say to avoid the red herring of safety, I will but it does entail me asking you and anyone else who has the same/similar question

Do you believe the public interest is served better by a driver who hasn't been working in another job before coming out to work in a taxi to drive you home? It's a simple Yes or No question

Your in danger of straw-manning here.

i already said that If someone works 8 hours in the day I ahv eno problem with them working 3 hours taxiing thereafter. I have already said that limiting them for 3 hours is a regulatory issue. Fruthermoe I ahve no problem whatsoever with someone who works 9-5 mon-fri then deciding to taxi on the weekend.

Your argument here is ludicrous. I'm sorry but to be frank its really obvious that you are just biased on this issue.

Spook_ie · 14-03-2010 4:22pm

opinion guy wrote: »

Your in danger of straw-manning here.

i already said that If someone works 8 hours in the day I ahv eno problem with them working 3 hours taxiing thereafter. I have already said that limiting them for 3 hours is a regulatory issue. Fruthermoe I ahve no problem whatsoever with someone who works 9-5 mon-fri then deciding to taxi on the weekend.

Your argument here is ludicrous. I'm sorry but to be frank its really obvious that you are just biased on this issue.

No it's just my valid opinion, same as yours is your valid opinion, but so far I have seen nothing in any counter arguments to even give me cause to pause and question my opinion

KoolKid · 14-03-2010 4:46pm

Spook_ie wrote: »

Would I turn down a PAYE job if one was offered? Probably not, but then I wouldn't drive a taxi of the weekend either!

I don't think you understood my question correctly. What I am ask is ..
Bearing in mind how hard you say it is to make a decent living driving a taxi, would you, if the opportunity arose, take on a part time PAYE job to give you additional income?

Spook_ie wrote: »

Just because you can do it, doesn't make it right.

Equally true, because you say it does not make it right

Spook_ie wrote: »

Do you believe the public interest is served better by a driver who hasn't been working in another job before coming out to work in a taxi to drive you home? It's a simple Yes or No question

NO .

Spook_ie · 14-03-2010 5:14pm

koolkid wrote: »

I don't think you understood my question correctly. What I am ask is ..
Bearing in mind how hard you say it is to make a decent living driving a taxi, would you, if the opportunity arose, take on a part time PAYE job to give you additional income?

Equally true, because you say it does not make it right

NO .

I don't think you understood my reply, possibly but it would be with the sole intent of getting out of the business and going on welfare, I would not take a part time job to soley supplement the taxiing as it would not fit with my views and beliefs.

opinion guy · 14-03-2010 5:16pm

Spook_ie wrote: »

I don't think you understood my reply, possibly but it would be with the sole intent of getting out of the business and going on welfare, I would not take a part time job to soley supplement the taxiing as it would not fit with my views and beliefs.

Right let me get this straight. Double jobbing is immoral to you, but defrauding the social is ok with you ?

Spook_ie · 14-03-2010 5:20pm

koolkid wrote: »

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NO .

So given the present regime, IF you were involved in an accident involving a taxi driver who had worked excessive hours (whether they be double jobbing or not) you would have no problem because "it's not in the public interest"

Again Yes or No

Spook_ie · 14-03-2010 5:23pm

opinion guy wrote: »

Right let me get this straight. Double jobbing is immoral to you, but defrauding the social is ok with you ?

I will expect an apology from you in the next post,

I never said anything about defrauding the social, I said going on the social due to the benefits allowable by my PAYE class A contributions, social would be payable dependant on my income from said part time PAYE job, as would FIS, medical card, job seekers allowance etc.

opinion guy · 14-03-2010 5:33pm

Spook_ie wrote: »

I will expect an apology from you in the next post,

I never said anything about defrauding the social, I said going on the social due to the benefits allowable by my PAYE class A contributions, social would be payable dependant on my income from said part time PAYE job, as would FIS, medical card, job seekers allowance etc.

Sure sounds like intentional manipulation of the system to me:

Spook_ie wrote: »

I don't think you understood my reply, possibly but it would be with the sole intent of getting out of the business and going on welfare, I would not take a part time job to soley supplement the taxiing as it would not fit with my views and beliefs.

Spook_ie · 14-03-2010 5:35pm

opinion guy wrote: »

Sure sounds like intentional manipulation of the system to me:

Intentional manipulation of a system, within it's laws is not fraud, as such and as you didn't apologise post has been reported

opinion guy · 14-03-2010 5:41pm

Part of qualifying for unemployment is to prove you are actively seeking work. Quitting your job intentionally in order to qualify for benefits is surely in breach of that rule, wouldn't you say ?

Report away my friend.

Spook_ie · 14-03-2010 5:43pm

opinion guy wrote: »

Part of qualifying for unemployment is to prove you are actively seeking work. Quitting your job intentionally in order to qualify for benefits is surely in breach of that rule, wouldn't you say ?

Report away my friend.

Declaring a business as insolvent isn't quitting your job, it's delaring a business as no longer viable

KoolKid · 14-03-2010 7:06pm

Spook_ie wrote: »

I don't think you understood my reply, possibly but it would be with the sole intent of getting out of the business and going on welfare, I would not take a part time job to soley supplement the taxiing as it would not fit with my views and beliefs.

Are you for real??
You are saying how bad things are, how hard it is to survive, yet you would turn down the oppertunity of a part time PAYE job, giving you an extra income, because of your beliefs?
I would love to see you going for welfare & telling them that.:D

Spook_ie wrote: »

So given the present regime, IF you were involved in an accident involving a taxi driver who had worked excessive hours (whether they be double jobbing or not) you would have no problem because "it's not in the public interest"

Again Yes or No

No, not unless he was breaking the law which affected his insurance status. If he is acting within the law the only reason to have a problem would be pettey & begrudging. Not me, I sorry!

Spook_ie · 15-03-2010 5:06am

koolkid wrote: »

Are you for real??
You are saying how bad things are, how hard it is to survive, yet you would turn down the oppertunity of a part time PAYE job, giving you an extra income, because of your beliefs?
I would love to see you going for welfare & telling them that.:D

No, not unless he was breaking the law which affected his insurance status. If he is acting within the law the only reason to have a problem would be pettey & begrudging. Not me, I sorry!

Yes I'm for real, why would I want to work in the taxi industry for the profits in it at the moment, if I could work part time PAYE and get job seekers allowance rather than working part time PAYE and then taxiing with the associated additional danger that I believe I would present as someone who was working beyond sensible hours. I wouldn't be as down on disposable income as you'd like to think.

Hopefully you'll never have to find out about the tiredness but if you do, just remember this thread

Taxi Strike

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