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Star Wars 4-6, Star Wars 1-3 or Lord of the Rings?

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  • #52
    bullvine
    Registered Users Posts: 2,828 ✭✭✭bullvine


    I voted LOTR as a trilogy its better and more consistent, with 3 equally good films, all though I do agree the third one is the weakest. The problem with Star Wars is that Empire is so much better than the other two it almost deserves to be on its own and is also much better film than any single LOTR film. The only trilogies that compare to LOTR for consistency I think are the Man with no name Spaghetti Westerns and the Bourne Trilogy.


  • #53
    Mickeroo
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    bullvine wrote: »
    I voted LOTR as a trilogy its better and more consistent, with 3 equally good films, all though I do agree the third one is the weakest. The problem with Star Wars is that Empire is so much better than the other two it almost deserves to be on its own and is also much better film than any single LOTR film. The only trilogies that compare to LOTR for consistency I think are the Man with no name Spaghetti Westerns and the Bourne Trilogy.

    *cough* toystory *cough*


  • #54
    FlashD
    Closed Accounts Posts: 865 ✭✭✭FlashD


    Hoping that we will be adding Nolan's 'Batman' to that 'consistant' list by the end of the year...fingers crossed! :)


  • #55
    slave1
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    SW I-III, I'll park them but before I do I really don't think they are THAT bad, TPM had great music, the pod-race and duel of the fates scene, AOTC had some good action and although it's very short I really like the scene where Anakin is on a speeder bike to find mommy, ROTS is a good film in it's own right.

    SW IV-VI, well Lucas wrote them all from scratch (copying bits and pieces here and there from other films, myths, religion etc) so deserves kudos for that. ANH simply changed cinema forever, TESB, thankfully I was old enough but young enough to have my world shattered via "I am your father" and no single moment in any movie since has been better, plus the AT-ATs on Hoth, ROTJ, well it's the weakest of the three IMHO because of those focking ewoks but the Luke/Vader scenes are priceless.
    SW IV-VI formed my youth.

    LOTR, read the books multiple times in my youth so Jackson had a lot of his work already done for him in fairness. He could have fooked them up but gladly he didn't, I love all three movies, the music, the feeling, the detail, everything, hats off to him and I forgive some ommissions like Tom/scowering (sic?) of the shire. Unlike others I think TOTK was true to the book in both it's length and multiple endings.

    Having watched both on BR over Christmas on the large screen it is quite apparant - and took me by surprise - that the special effects from LOTR has aged quicker than that of SW EP IV-VI, even though ANH was originally back to 1977.

    So in many ways it's pretty hard to choose, LOTR for an excellent intrepertation and attention to detail or SW for being from scratch and a different time in my life.

    SW IV-VI by a pip.
    Would be interesting to revisit in a few years with The Hobbit duology thrown into the mix.


  • #56
    Mickeroo
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    ^^ I think it was good idea to leave Tom Bombadil & the scowering out of the movies. Tom would not have fitted in with the tone of the films at all and the scowering just wouldn't work on screen full stop, it would nearly have needed another film in its own right to do properly plus it would have killed the pacing of ROTK. Lots of people thought it took too long to end as it was.


  • #57
    Theboinkmaster
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    slave1 wrote: »
    Having watched both on BR over Christmas on the large screen it is quite apparant - and took me by surprise - that the special effects from LOTR has aged quicker than that of SW EP IV-VI, even though ANH was originally back to 1977.

    Is that because CGI was used in LOTR but all model work in Star Wars? I too watched Star Wars on blu ray recently and was pleasantly surprised how well the effects held up, particularly Empire.


  • #58
    Stereomaniac
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    Yeah. I think the model work is a lot better than any CGI work. I guess it's like the old photographer thing of saying they don't work with digital. CGI was amazin at first.....BUT...


  • #59
    Dohnny Jepp
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    All I can say is that it's a pity Twilight is 4 films because that would have been the best trilogy ever. . . :pac:


  • #60
    don ramo
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    Dohnny Jepp wrote: »
    All I can say is that it's a pity Twilight is 4 films because that would have been the best trilogy ever. . . :pac:
    ***banned***


















    :D:D


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  • #61
    Magill
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    LOTR's, probably my top 3 favorite films tho.


  • #62
    jaykhunter
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    Star Wars must be the most talked about film franchise in the history of cinema. He can keep releasing these movies in slightly altered format because people will discuss and (be more likely to) see the new one.

    I wish Lucas would move on to making another film & so hopefully it'd stop him tinkering with his old ones, but in general I don't mind the new additions (unless it's a terrible new song by a singing CGI character at the screen) and since i've seen them many times, the alterations make it slightly more interesting to re-watch.

    I gotta also mention that I hate how Jedi is lumped in with IV and V, and Sith is lumped in with I and II. The original trilogy isn't perfect, and the new trilogy has some merit. I thought RotS was brilliant, especially the closing 40 minutes; and thought everything outside of Luke/Vader/Emperor in Jedi was damned awful time-fill.

    In this topic I'd say classic Star Wars, as it covers a wider breadth of emotions/is more exciting to me, rather than the (also excellent) LOTR, which is very grand, but is a bit slow and is a bit more boring.


  • #63
    bnt
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    The thing that puts me off, about the Star Wars films, is that they were written for the screen, with fairly standard 3-act structures, borrowing heavily from the work of Joseph Campbell (esp. The Hero with a Thousand Faces). They are tailor-made to appeal to popular audiences - not that there's anything wrong with that.

    The LotR books were written to be books, without compromise, and it took a helluva lot of work to make the story filmable, never mind as good as the films turned out. (I'm one of those film-watchers who cares about the process of film-making, and doesn't judge a film solely by what makes it to the screen.) But don't bother with the cinema versions - the Extended Editions are the only ones to watch, in my opinion. The story is more than big enough to justify the length.

    Death has this much to be said for it:
    You don’t have to get out of bed for it.
    Wherever you happen to be
    They bring it to you—free.

    — Kingsley Amis



  • #64
    frogcheese
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    I think they are both amazing and too difficult to judge which one is "better".


  • #65
    BopNiblets
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    johnnysmack wrote: »
    LOTR is very childish, everything turned out too perfectly in the end.
    I have an issue with this: Friggin' Ewoks!
    That kill hundreds of trained and armored stromtroopers with frickin' lasers and walking tanks.

    Several countries/armies were decimated in the Battle of Pelannor.
    The Empire wiped out possibly countless billions only to be ultimately defeated by a gang of furry midgets, that's childish!


  • #66
    Bipolar Joe
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    LotR bores me to tears. I'm a Star Wars (OT) kind of guy.


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  • #67
    Ridley
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    jaykhunter wrote: »
    ... The original trilogy isn't perfect, and the new trilogy has some merit. I thought RotS was brilliant, especially the closing 40 minutes ...

    Yoda dueling Sidious as they rise up into the centre of the Senate building is one of the best moments of the entire saga for me. Great visual.


  • #68
    ricero
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    nolans batman trilogy will soon become the greatest trilogy of all time. for me though star wars 4 - 6 just shades lord of the rings


  • #69
    me-skywalker
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    A New Hope, The Empire Strikes back and Return of the Jedi. As a caveat I would add Revenge of the Sith; its darker and more intense, the drama and tension knowing where it leads but how they get there for me made it equal with the original Trilogy.


  • #70
    Draupnir
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    BopNiblets wrote: »
    I have an issue with this: Friggin' Ewoks!
    That kill hundreds of trained and armored stromtroopers with frickin' lasers and walking tanks.

    Several countries/armies were decimated in the Battle of Pelannor.
    The Empire wiped out possibly countless billions only to be ultimately defeated by a gang of furry midgets, that's childish!

    The idea is that the Emperor has gotten a bit egotistical (the Dark Side of the force). He has ruled the galaxy pretty exclusively for 20+ years having wiped out the Jedi for all intents and purposes.

    You can't defeat him with a traditional army, but the Dark Side has weakened him, he can't see the danger coming because he doesn't consider it worthy of his attention.

    He underestimates Luke, Han et. al and he underestimates the Ewoks. The dark side of the force ultimately leads to his defeat really. That's my take on the storyline anyway. It rounds out the series very nicely in my opinion.


  • #71
    Zubeneschamali
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    Draupnir wrote: »
    The idea is that the Emperor has gotten a bit egotistical (the Dark Side of the force).

    No, I think the idea is that by RotJ, Lucas has gotten control of the movies, and he thinks the saga needs more teddy bears.


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  • #72
    Renn
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    bullvine wrote: »
    Am I the only person finding it hard to believe when posters are saying they haven't seen Star Wars?

    Guess what, I've seen some films you haven't seen :eek:

    Only saw the first Star Wars film a couple of years back, fine but not enough there to want me watching the rest.


  • #73
    saintsaltynuts
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    I prefer The Phantom Menace to the first two Lord of the Rings films could not stomach to watch the 3rd one as the first two bored me to tears.


  • #74
    WatchWolf
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    saintsaltynuts wrote: »
    I prefer The Phantom Menace to the first two Lord of the Rings films could not stomach to watch the 3rd one as the first two bored me to tears.



  • #75
    CharAdriel
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    Star Wars the Original Trilogy was definitely the best trilogy of the 3.


  • #76
    Handsome Bob
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    For some reason I decided to go see TPM in 3D yesterday...I forgot about how shit it was. I wouldn't even mind if it weren't for the fact that I felt the 3D was pretty crap. :pac::pac::pac:


  • #77
    DazMarz
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    For me, the Original Trilogy by a clear, country mile. Superb and inspired stuff.

    Was never a big LOTR fan, so I don't like them much at all, but that's just me.

    Plus, I love all the classic lines from Star Wars, but my favourite being:

    "I love you!"

    "I know."

    Brilliant... and Harrison Ford apparently ad-libbed it!


  • #78
    Arabella
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    I still remember the first time I saw the original Star Wars trilogy. I was 9 years old and it was on television over Christmas. It completely captured my imagination and quickly became my favourite series of films. It reminds me of my childhood and everytime I see it I have a huge emotional response to it. For this reason, Star Wars is my favourite.

    I was in college when I first saw The Lord of the Rings and I loved it. I had read Tolkien's books when I was younger and Jackson's films successfully managed to depict the things I loved about the books.

    While my brain is saying that the Lord of the Rings is the better trilogy, my heart says Star Wars purely because of the nostagic feeling I still get when I watch it.


  • #79
    Dermighty
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    Star wars 4-6 is a childhood thing for me, Star wars 1-3 were just ****e (especially the and and 3rd movies) and Lord Of The Rings was excellent all round.


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