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Bottle_of_Smoke wrote: »

Don't like the sound of that at all. I think he finds the girl he can use for threesomes very handy & knows calling her sexy might keep her around. Perhaps telling you he wasn't attracted to you was a plan to weaken your self esteem & make you easier to mess around. Vast majority of girls would run a mile at the mention of meeting strangers for sex.

Actually getting a bit annoyed & upset for you now. He knows you don't want to do this but he also knows you'll do it to keep him. He has no respect for you.

If you were with someone else would you have ever have suggested this, or even have contemplated it? Get the f*ck outta there.

Also, like christ, can only imagine what you're likely to catch, all these people you meet up with are likely to have had multiple partners who have had multiple partners who have had multiple partners...... condoms don't cover you for everything & they break too.... If you're "partying" with bi-guys you'd really want to be careful, how would you feel about telling your friends & family you're HIV positive?

OP Get out of this relationship now, he is a user and you know it. He is playing you like a puppet

Bottle_of_Smoke wrote: »

You're being very patronising for someone talking such nonsense.

Also, lets say couples weren't a higher risk(which any idiot can see they will be if they're having multiple partners) didn't you notice the bit where she said it was much easier to find single males.

We all have our one nighters but they're not every night of the week(rofl-ed at that bit). Most guys would be lucky to get one every 6months. And where exactly did I condone sleeping with random strangers?????

Couples swinging with other couples a few times a year are at a higher risk then your average 20-30 year old who **** random strangers after clubs etc? That happens every night of the week don't you know? Please, point out to me, specifically, how a couple that have sex with another couple a few times a year are at a higher risk then the average joe who has a few one night stands a year?

I never once said you condoned sleeping with random strangers, but that it was ludicrous that you suggest that swinging couples are far more open to disease. They aren't.

You actually want me to point out the increased danger of STDs in a couple who formally agree to f*ck strangers with no strings attached? Are you for real?

As opposed to the single population who agree to **** strangers with no strings attached every night of the week in every club in the country? Or do you live somewhere where single people don't believe in sex before marriage or have a impermeable barrier against STDs?

Here we go again, if someone was having a different partner every week from the pub & posted here about it, every second post would be telling her to have an STD check. Condoms won't stop you from getting Herpes & HPV, and if you're a woman(or a man receiving anal) & the condom breaks you're in serious danger if the person has HIV/Hepatitis.

Yeah but here you go making wild analogies. Swingers don't swing every night or, for most of them, more then a few times a year in fact - so stop implying otherwise.

Even in you're crazy example I'd imagine its safer with the people in the pub. Not a personal attack on you but who would you rather be with, the guy in the pub using condoms or the guy who uses prostitutes regularly & uses condoms? Switch to women if you're male.

What the hell sort of an example is that? Comparing a prostitute user to a swinging couple? Put it this way - who would you rather have sex with - the girl you meet in a club or the girl you meet in a pub? Yeah, that's right - there's no difference. In the same way, a swinging couple is just as likely to have an STD as much as the single person but not more likely. A couple is compromised of two individuals. There's very little difference from a 'normal' one night stand apart from the fact they're a social 'couple'.

Honestly I think the issue here is that you have some sort of warped idea of what swinging entails. For most people, it means meeting another couple maybe twice, three times a year. In the same way that you would have the same amount of one night stands at least - and in both instances, there can be excess, and in both instances, equal susceptibility to disease.