SUSI Grant application

kaki · 04-09-2014 2:03pm

From SUSI's website/Facebook page:

SUSI processing update

We are currently finishing the initial phase of our application process, which is to initially assess all new

applications submitted to SUSI before the August 1st deadline. This process will be completed this week. We will

then begin the second phase of the process which is to review documentation provided to us from applicants, at

which point we will be in a position to finalise the applications of those applicants who have forwarded the

requested documentation. Processing priority will be given to those students who returned their requested

documentation at the earliest dates. This is where all our processing resources will be placed and we expect to

move through this process quickly. Students can expect to hear from us throughout September.

Nice to have an update, but they're really dragging the arse out of the grant process. I think that eligibility and documentation verification should be completed far earlier in the year, leaving just the verification of the accepted courses for around this time.

borderbuddy · 05-09-2014 5:17pm

unfortunately i thought new child new start with susi but to no avail its beyond a joke ..applied on day the process opened all document shown as recieved on 17th june and still no answer ,no approx timeframe when i call in fact was today told that no NEW applicants had been grant approved . Asked to speak with superviser told they will tell you the same bla bla bla . Being in the unfortunate group in need of the special rate it is vital to know if this will be awarded before my son leaves (attending college in the uk ) what was the point of opening the process early if no grants were to be finalized earlier how do they expect parents to subsidise students for almost 2 months until a payment is recieved in these recessionary times ..please susi cop on and wake up its just not on that it takes over 16 weeks to sort an application

TheBoss11 · 05-09-2014 5:30pm

I got an email today saying all applications should be checked by the weekends of the 5th of September.

Conor9320 · 05-09-2014 5:34pm

TheBoss11 wrote: »

I got an email today saying all applications should be checked by the weekends of the 5th of September.

Out of curiosity when did you have all your documentation submitted and stuff?

borderbuddy · 05-09-2014 5:38pm

Going by todays conversation id say that means they have a pre assessment check completed now they are only beginning the final assessment for new applicants and if the people who applied at the opening stage have heard nothing god help the late applications

borderbuddy · 05-09-2014 5:46pm

As a matter of comparison i checked the uk system and all students will be paid 3 days after college confirms registration and the complete process takes on average 8 weeks start to finish .. oh to be so efficient here

GingerNut93 · 05-09-2014 5:52pm

borderbuddy wrote: »

Going by todays conversation id say that means they have a pre assessment check completed now they are only beginning the final assessment for new applicants and if the people who applied at the opening stage have heard nothing god help the late applications

I applied the day it opened and they have my documents since th 11th of June and I havent heard anything at all!

borderbuddy · 05-09-2014 6:09pm

GingerNut93 wrote: »

I applied the day it opened and they have my documents since th 11th of June and I havent heard anything at all!

ive had no option but to contact my local td in the hope of moving it along as there will still be for some issues with income thresholds etc that will take even longer once assessments are carried out and applications could be anywhere in a pile of some 100,000 + .. I mean if there was some in house system of first in first dealt with they could give an indication of timeframe .... but there isnt so god help us

TheBoss11 · 05-09-2014 6:26pm

I initially applied in May and had all documents in by June

dougiex06 · 05-09-2014 6:32pm

I am having a nightmare with Susi. Back in 2012/2013 I was in NUIM, as a mature student studying science, I didnt apply for the grant as I was living at home but i moved out in January 2013 of that year for the academic year. After i completed the year i transferred into my current course in DCU, but started back in 1st year again. The year of 2013/2014 I paid full tuition fees of €7000+. I also moved out, to a new place in September, of 2013. Now, this year im going into second year of my course and I have applied for the grand. I applied on the first day and they received all requested documentation on the 10th of June. I haven't heard anything back until today. THEY ARE LOOKING FOR MORE DOCUMENTS after all this time. They are looking for documents to cover independent residency to cover OCTOBER 2011?! Can anyone tell me why they need this? I have to have these documents back in by the 15th of Sept for my application to continue.

The Diddakoi · 05-09-2014 6:53pm

dougiex06 wrote: »

. They are looking for documents to cover independent residency to cover OCTOBER 2011?! Can anyone tell me why they need this? I have to have these documents back in by the 15th of Sept for my application to continue.

I would ring and ask at the help desk.
They must have the date wrong, can't see why they would ask for stuff from 2011 !!

From susi Facebook page:

" apply as an independent student you have to be over 23 on the 1st January in the year of your first entry to further or higher education. You also have to have been living away from your parent(s) from 1st October prior to that year. We accept the following documents for evidence of independent residence once they cover the required time period: Utility bills, statement of rent allowance or mortgage supplement statement, lease agreements, a letter from the PRTB and TV licences. If you have applied as an independent student and cannot furnish us with the above documentation, you will have to cancel your existing application and re-apply as a dependent student."

clairek6 · 05-09-2014 6:58pm

Anyone going into to second year know what the story with the grant is? I applied once it reopened and its been waiting assesment since

dougiex06 · 05-09-2014 7:01pm

alf66 wrote: »

your first entry to further or higher education. You also have to have been living away from your parent(s) from 1st October prior to that year."

I see now why they are looking for it because i started in nuim in sept 2012 so the previous year would be 2011 but does this mean that if you are not living out of home the first year of your course you are ineligible for the grant every year thereafter? I didnt need the grant the first two years, now i do after playing full tuition fees last year and living on my own for the last year. Nightmare.

jjll · 05-09-2014 7:20pm

Nightmare after 6 weeks of application awaiting assesment get a letter wanting more info on nationality really annoying

mountcisco · 05-09-2014 7:38pm

dougiex06 wrote: »

I see now why they are looking for it because i started in nuim in sept 2012 so the previous year would be 2011 but does this mean that if you are not living out of home the first year of your course you are ineligible for the grant every year thereafter? I didnt need the grant the first two years, now i do after playing full tuition fees last year and living on my own for the last year. Nightmare.

Looks like that's the case unfortunately according to SUSI:

"...an applicant is classed from when their undergraduate studies begin unless there is a three year break. To be classed as an independent student an applicant would of have to have been living independently from October 1st prior to entering higher education. An applicant would also have to have been 23 on the 1st of January of the year they are entering their undergraduate studies. If an applicant was to enter undergraduate studies in September 2012, they would of have to have been living independently since October 2011 and have been 23 on the 1st of January 2012".

borderbuddy · 05-09-2014 7:48pm

jjll wrote: »

Nightmare after 6 weeks of application awaiting assesment get a letter wanting more info on nationality really annoying

got the same when i dealt with my daughters application wanted a passport cause she was born in the north had to go to the board of education to tell them it wasnt required as being born on the island of ireland she is a citizen

Conor9320 · 05-09-2014 7:56pm

jjll wrote: »

Nightmare after 6 weeks of application awaiting assesment get a letter wanting more info on nationality really annoying

I got the same but I was asked by the college not SUSI?

GingerNut93 · 05-09-2014 9:14pm

Has anyone heard of anyone being approved?

Annasopra · 05-09-2014 9:29pm

dougiex06 wrote: »

I am having a nightmare with Susi. Back in 2012/2013 I was in NUIM, as a mature student studying science, I didnt apply for the grant as I was living at home but i moved out in January 2013 of that year for the academic year. After i completed the year i transferred into my current course in DCU, but started back in 1st year again. The year of 2013/2014 I paid full tuition fees of €7000+. I also moved out, to a new place in September, of 2013. Now, this year im going into second year of my course and I have applied for the grand. I applied on the first day and they received all requested documentation on the 10th of June. I haven't heard anything back until today. THEY ARE LOOKING FOR MORE DOCUMENTS after all this time. They are looking for documents to cover independent residency to cover OCTOBER 2011?! Can anyone tell me why they need this? I have to have these documents back in by the 15th of Sept for my application to continue.

It looks to me like SUSI will insist on assessing you as a dependent student student. You entered in 2012/2013 as dependent because you were living at home. You can't change status from dependent to independent unless there is a 3 year gap.

Mario95 · 05-09-2014 11:07pm

My status didn't change for more than a month now. It is "Provisionally Awarded pending receipt and review of course acceptance details from the CAO.".

Will the process be over after CAO gives them these details, or will I have to send them more documents after this stage?

jjll · 06-09-2014 12:07am

borderbuddy wrote: »

got the same when i dealt with my daughters application wanted a passport cause she was born in the north had to go to the board of education to tell them it wasnt required as being born on the island of ireland she is a citizen

Already tried to say that she been here for last 8 years and had a irish dad but no want more info

PictureFrame · 06-09-2014 12:39am

I've my renewal in 8 weeks now, still haven't been initially assessed. It's a FABULOUS system

borderbuddy · 06-09-2014 9:12am

jjll wrote: »

Already tried to say that she been here for last 8 years and had a irish dad but no want more info

im assuming she doesnt hold an irish passport and wasnt born on the island of ireland ? i would think a copy of her and her dads birth cert would show her right to citizenship (in my case i refused point blank as i wasnt prepared to pay the 90 odd euro to renew my daughters passport as her birth cert clearly proved her citizenship)

jjll · 06-09-2014 11:29am

borderbuddy wrote: »

im assuming she doesnt hold an irish passport and wasnt born on the island of ireland ? i would think a copy of her and her dads birth cert would show her right to citizenship (in my case i refused point blank as i wasnt prepared to pay the 90 odd euro to renew my daughters passport as her birth cert clearly proved her citizenship)

Tried the birth cert thing and they said not enough evidence

borderbuddy · 06-09-2014 11:42am

jjll wrote: »

Tried the birth cert thing and they said not enough evidence

have they given you a list of other documents they require? you could always contact the department of education in tullamore they will clarify any requirement and advise susi (if its good enough for the passport office it should be good enough for susi)

Conor9320 · 06-09-2014 8:30pm

This may be a stupid question but I figured I'd ask anyway.. You know how there's a fee grant (which covers the tuition fee element, student contribution element and a field trip element) and a maintanance grant? Does that mean if I qualify for a 100% grant that I'd get 3,025 & 2,750+ for my registration fees etc? Or do you only get a fee grant if you don't qualify for the maintanance grant? Thanks in advance :P

Annasopra · 06-09-2014 8:46pm

Conor9320 wrote: »

This may be a stupid question but I figured I'd ask anyway.. You know how there's a fee grant (which covers the tuition fee element, student contribution element and a field trip element) and a maintanance grant? Does that mean if I qualify for a 100% grant that I'd get 3,025 & 2,750+ for my registration fees etc? Or do you only get a fee grant if you don't qualify for the maintanance grant? Thanks in advance :P

Yes if you get a maintenance grant it also means you get a fee grant.

blackkeyes · 06-09-2014 8:55pm

Anyone going to Maynooth hear anything back from them? I know we start back later so I'm assuming that's why I haven't heard anything but I'm just wondering if anybody else has.

Xscreamokidx · 06-09-2014 8:58pm

blackkeyes wrote: »

Anyone going to Maynooth hear anything back from them? I know we start back later so I'm assuming that's why I haven't heard anything but I'm just wondering if anybody else has.

Absolutely nothing

blackkeyes · 06-09-2014 9:05pm

Xscreamokidx wrote: »

Absolutely nothing

Yeah you see I think we're back later than any other uni (or any of my friends going elsewhere anyway)
Hopefully this week they'll give us word.

Annasopra · 06-09-2014 10:30pm

blackkeyes wrote: »

Anyone going to Maynooth hear anything back from them? I know we start back later so I'm assuming that's why I haven't heard anything but I'm just wondering if anybody else has.

I doubt it makes a difference where you go.

blackkeyes · 06-09-2014 11:11pm

Joeytheparrot wrote: »

I doubt it makes a difference where you go.

well the fees payment Deadlines are different and they probably correspond with the dates of registration.
I don't know, I just assumed because I know someone who started last week and they heard from Susi just before they were back.
But of course, I'm probably talking crap, sorry

nobodyknows · 07-09-2014 11:06am

blackkeyes wrote: »

well the fees payment Deadlines are different and they probably correspond with the dates of registration.
I don't know, I just assumed because I know someone who started last week and they heard from Susi just before they were back.
But of course, I'm probably talking crap, sorry

The college you are going to doesn't come into account with regards to when you will get approved.
Some people will get approved before they start college, others will get approved after they start college.
You might get lucky and get approved before you start but I wouldn't look at it as guaranteed to happen.
Some colleges will allow you to temporarily register for a month or two, so I'd check if your college will allow this, if not then you will need to pay the fees and then get reimbursed if you get approved.

dougiex06 · 07-09-2014 2:02pm

Joeytheparrot wrote: »

It looks to me like SUSI will insist on assessing you as a dependent student student. You entered in 2012/2013 as dependent because you were living at home. You can't change status from dependent to independent unless there is a 3 year gap.

I see. Would this be class under a change of circumstances as I'm 26 and living out of home for 2 years? Does this mean that I wont even get my fees paid?

The Diddakoi · 08-09-2014 7:29am

jjll wrote: »

Already tried to say that she been here for last 8 years and had a irish dad but no want more info

Had to apply for a passport for my daughter. Born in England, but lived here 17 years, Irish father.
Really slows things up.

KhAoS_ThEoRy · 08-09-2014 12:14pm

Just a quick update on my application:

I called CAO today and asked what the deal was with the FCA they were supposed to send on to SUSI. The person I spoke with informed me that my FCA details were sent on to SUSI a while ago, and that if SUSI told me otherwise, to take their name down. To be fair, the lady at CAO was way more competent than SUSI full stop. I called SUSI in reards to this and the person I spoke with informed me that all they need now was to get my registration details from my college, saying it will take two weeks?!? Really?

bush · 08-09-2014 4:39pm

If your renewing a grant do you have to send in any documents? Ive been awarded a renewal but im not sure if I have to send in any forms from college?

James__10 · 08-09-2014 6:04pm

Just recieved a email from Susi.

Your online application for a student grant for the 2014/2015 academic year has been assessed and a document request schedule was issued to you to support your application. This document schedule had a return date specific to your application showing when SUSI expected to receive all your documents.
You have not returned your completed document schedule by that return date. We can not progress your application without the requested documentation.

With regard the bit in bold, I haven't recieved anything from SUSI at all. Anyone else get a email like this today?

Interiors6969 · 08-09-2014 7:10pm

Quick question..

I'm too waiting for an approval/refusal from SUSI....my course starts next week and the college said "However, a fee of 3500.00 euro remains outstanding. You will be liable for this fee until such time that your grant award is confirmed by SUSI or by a Local Authority or VEC"...

Does this mean i have to pay this before i start college ?? So confused, first time applying for a grant!

Interiors

rosepetal_irl · 08-09-2014 7:32pm

You are liable for your fees until Susi decides yes or no.

Every college is different in what is acceptable but in mine they allow until October to get the grant letter and then they keep reminding you to pay the fees until they with-hold your exam results or stop you from using labs/library etc. They also have the option of you paying fees in 2 halves, so half is due Sept 24th this year. Now if you are feeling twitching about it you could pay a bit and then when SUSI pays the fees the college gives back what you paid them.

I'd tell your college fees office you are still waiting on SUSI and give them your W number from your SUSI application and this should keep them off your back for a while.

I applied in August last year and got the grant letter 29th October, just so you know. This year I am a renewal and I applied in May and still stuck on 'awaiting assessment' since Jul 3rd so who knows when I'll hear this year. Either way I'm not worrying as much as I did last year. Colleges are well aware of how SUSI operates at this stage!

Interiors6969 · 08-09-2014 7:37pm

Yeah i will get onto them and see how much room i have to wiggle to pay this (via susi of course) as i can't afford it literally, with a mortgage and 3 little rugrats need feeding lol.

Hopefully DIT will be kind to me.

jjll · 08-09-2014 8:37pm

Applied for irish passport for my daughter now

rawn · 09-09-2014 1:35pm

Does anybody know if susi convers costs for equipment? My uniform and knives for culinary arts are costing nearly €500 and I have to pay by tomorrow, if I borrow does it get reimbursed or do they not help towards that at all?

borderbuddy · 09-09-2014 3:57pm

As of today there are still no dates for the payment of grant installments !!
doesnt instill much confidence in the application process not only cant we find out when our grants might be awarded we cant even guess when a payment might be fortcoming makes ya wonder if its all a way of passing department budgets into the following year .....

Arnold Tanzarian · 09-09-2014 4:45pm

rawn wrote: »

Does anybody know if susi convers costs for equipment? My uniform and knives for culinary arts are costing nearly €500 and I have to pay by tomorrow, if I borrow does it get reimbursed or do they not help towards that at all?

Would the 4 thousand or whatever you receive from the grant not be enought to cover that?

Fair enough it might not be with you for a few weeks but I would of thought myself fees like you have just mentioned are just what the grant was brought in for?

borderbuddy · 09-09-2014 4:57pm

Arnold Tanzarian wrote: »

Would the 4 thousand or whatever you receive from the grant not be enought to cover that?

Fair enough it might not be with you for a few weeks but I would of thought myself fees like you have just mentioned are just what the grant was brought in for?

the full 100 % maintenence grant equates to approx 70 euro a week based on 43 week term ... hardly enough to keep a student fed let alone rent travel etc . To original poster as far as i am aware there are no additional allowances for course kit etc you can only hope your bank is understanding with the provision of an overdraught and some part time work to service the overdraught .

KellyR18 · 09-09-2014 6:03pm

How much would you get for the 100% maintenance non-adjacent? I'm mad at math and lazy :P

rawn · 09-09-2014 6:48pm

Arnold Tanzarian wrote: »

Would the 4 thousand or whatever you receive from the grant not be enought to cover that?

Fair enough it might not be with you for a few weeks but I would of thought myself fees like you have just mentioned are just what the grant was brought in for?

I literally have no idea how much of a fees grant (if any) I will get. My bank won't give me an overdraft as it dips below zero too often :rolleyes: I can borrow the money I need for tomorrow as an emergency from a friend but I would need to pay it back quite soon, which would be near impossible. I spoke to the college about my options and my options were pretty much to pay for the knives and half the uniforms tomorrow (with half the uniforms being bought next week instead of this week).

borderbuddy · 09-09-2014 7:25pm

KellyR18 wrote: »

How much would you get for the 100% maintenance non-adjacent? I'm mad at math and lazy :P

E3025 is the 100% maintenance grant

Conor9320 · 09-09-2014 8:12pm

Is it true that if you get the special rate grant + money from HEAR that you could end up with near 7k (6,915e)? That'd be quality!

SUSI Grant application

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