Please ask Senators today to reject religious job discrimination this Wednesday

recedite · 20-07-2015 11:53pm

OK, so it was a false claim all along.
Google is vindicated!

Kerry Gaelscoil spouts nonsense :mad:

SpaceTime · 21-07-2015 2:01am

robindch wrote: »

Love the phonetic spelling

Direct cut and paste. Not my spelling!

Jane Donnelly · 21-07-2015 9:22am

All ETB/VEC schools and colleges at Second Level are obliged to have religious instruction.

Community schools under the Deeds of Trust
Designated Community Colleges under the Model Agreement
Non Designated Community Colleges under Circular Letter 73/74

This religious instruction is (in the vast majority of cases) Catholic. There are some Protestant Community Schools.

A few years ago the Dept of Education referred to these schools and colleges as Interdenominational. They had that up on their website. That is now gone and they don't refer to their category anymore.

The terms, Interdenominational, multi-denominational and non-denominational are not legally defined. Schools can and do refer to themselves as any of these terms. I've seen a Catholic school refer to itself as multi-denominational because it has a few students from other denominations in the school.

robdonn · 22-07-2015 1:24pm

Jane Donnelly wrote: »

A few years ago the Dept of Education referred to these schools and colleges as Interdenominational. They had that up on their website. That is now gone and they don't refer to their category anymore.

The terms, Interdenominational, multi-denominational and non-denominational are not legally defined. Schools can and do refer to themselves as any of these terms. I've seen a Catholic school refer to itself as multi-denominational because it has a few students from other denominations in the school.

I went to a non-denominational private secondary school, but found out from the business teacher that the school was actually registered as a protestant school for tax reasons. No idea if that was true or not though.

expectationlost · 17-11-2015 7:44pm

labour congratulating itself Jan O'Sullivan Verified account ‏@JanOSullivanTD 7m7 minutes ago

Jan O'Sullivan Retweeted Aodhán Ó Ríordáin TD

Delighted to be working with @AodhanORiordain to deliver reform of #Section37

while forgetting your commitment to people of non-faith as was in PFG http://www.per.gov.ie/wp-content/uploads/ProgrammeforGovernmentFinal.pdf

http://labour.revolutionaries.ie/press/2015/07/02/labour-ministers-announce-action-to-remove-discrim/

Orion · 18-11-2015 11:48am

Jane Donnelly wrote: »

All ETB/VEC schools and colleges at Second Level are obliged to have religious instruction.

Nope. They are required to have religious education as it is part of the Junior Cert syllabus.

Jane Donnelly wrote: »

A few years ago the Dept of Education referred to these schools and colleges as Interdenominational. They had that up on their website. That is now gone and they don't refer to their category anymore.

Yes they do.
e.g. http://www.education.ie/en/find-a-school/School-Detail/?roll=70700A
e.g. http://www.education.ie/en/find-a-school/School-Detail/?roll=91505T
This is just for Interdenominational in Kildare:
http://www.education.ie/en/Find-a-School/School-Search-Results/?level=Post%20Primary&geo=Kildare&ethos=Inter%20Denominational&lang=-1&gender=-1

The terms, Interdenominational, multi-denominational and non-denominational are not legally defined. Schools can and do refer to themselves as any of these terms. I've seen a Catholic school refer to itself as multi-denominational because it has a few students from other denominations in the school.

A school can call itself what it wants but it's designation from the DES is what counts. There are no state funded non-denominational schools in Ireland. Primary schools can be multi and secondary inter or multi. These terms are defined in the patronage legislation.

expectationlost · 27-11-2015 8:11pm

Equality (Miscellaneous Provisions) Bill 2013 (Changed from Employment Equality (Amendment)(No.2) Bill 2013 [Seanad] [PMB])
http://www.oireachtas.ie/viewdoc.asp?fn=/documents/bills28/bills/2013/2313/document1.htm
Second Stage
18/11/2015 http://oireachtasdebates.oireachtas.ie/debates%20authoring/debateswebpack.nsf/takes/dail2015111800054?opendocument#CCC00250
18/11/2015 (Resumed) http://oireachtasdebates.oireachtas.ie/debates%20authoring/debateswebpack.nsf/takes/dail2015111800068?opendocument#RRR00200
19/11/2015 (Resumed) http://oireachtasdebates.oireachtas.ie/debates%20authoring/debateswebpack.nsf/takes/dail2015111900033?opendocument#FF00700
24th https://www.kildarestreet.com/debates/?id=2015-11-26a.109&s=Equality+%28Miscellaneous+Provisions%29+Bill+2013

many issues raised while Labour plows on smuggly

Please ask Senators today to reject religious job discrimination this Wednesday

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