Trans tragedy in US

Cantremember · 31-12-2014 10:21pm #1

Saw this on sky and felt it just needed to be marked in some way. A sad read and a sad reminder that religion continues, allied with ignorance, to take its toll.
The person who wrote this apparently has decided enough is enough.
http://lazerprincess.tumblr.com/post/106447705738/suicide-note

braddun · 31-12-2014 10:31pm

http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/why-we-dont-know-the-size-of-the-transgender-population/

Donnielighto · 31-12-2014 10:34pm

That's horrible, hopefully awareness and acceptance comes out of this though, it's what she wanted

shamrock55 · 31-12-2014 10:40pm

When i read the headline i thought someone had shot a whole load of trans gender people

Ten of Swords · 31-12-2014 11:22pm

I read this on pinknews earlier today, very sad

RIP

She lost her child but from reading that suicide note so much of the blame can be laid on her and her intolerance.

Stheno · 31-12-2014 11:24pm

Ten of Swords wrote: »

I read this on pinknews earlier today, very sad

RIP

She lost her child but from reading that suicide note so much of the blame can be laid on her and her intolerance.

Her post also sounds like she is still in denial

31-12-2014 11:29pm

yeah it was on the front page of reddit so i was reading about it

http://np.reddit.com/r/asktransgender/comments/2km6yt/is_this_considered_abuse/

this is the post from 2 months ago

Ten of Swords · 31-12-2014 11:29pm

It is likely that she was in shock. She also may not have seen the note at that point.

I'm appalled at their remedy for the 'problem' though, you can't isolate someone for 5 months in the hope that they will 'get better'

Slicemeister · 31-12-2014 11:30pm

If he was so critical of Catholic therapies why he didn't he seek out alternatives? Or were they just not available?

eviltwin · 31-12-2014 11:35pm

I actually feel quite sorry for her parents. They have lost their child in tragic circumstances and they have become hate figures. I hope they are left to grieve in peace.

Annasopra · 31-12-2014 11:44pm

braddun wrote: »

http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/why-we-dont-know-the-size-of-the-transgender-population/

Whats your point?

Annasopra · 31-12-2014 11:45pm

Slicemeister wrote: »

If he was so critical of Catholic therapies why he didn't he seek out alternatives? Or were they just not available?

SHE. Please be respectful and use the correct pronouns.

IsMiseMyself · 31-12-2014 11:51pm

Poor kid. I've seen a lot about Leelah on Tumblr and the whole situation was a disgrace--the way her parents handled it was so messed up. Conversion therapy should be banned.

I find it quite awful that her parents insist(ed) on burying her in a suit with the wrong name and continue to misgender her. The one positive (and I use the word here very seriously) to come from all of this was the visibility to trans issues. An awful lot of people still have no idea about trans stuff. Tbh, I didn't know a whole lot til a year or so ago when my best friend's little brother came out as trans and started transitioning. I did a lot of research and I've caught up and I really think trans issues should be taught in sex ed. in school. But that's a topic for another day.

Slicemeister · 31-12-2014 11:51pm

Joeytheparrot wrote: »

SHE. Please be respectful and use the correct pronouns.

Didn't mean to be. She felt like a girl in a man's body? Or am I reading it completely stupidly wrong?

Stheno · 31-12-2014 11:54pm

Slicemeister wrote: »

Didn't mean to be. She felt like a girl in a man's body? Or am I reading it completely stupidly wrong?

No but given that and how she signed her suicide note you should acknowledge what she felt was her true gender imo

Slicemeister · 31-12-2014 11:57pm

Stheno wrote: »

No but given that and how she signed her suicide note you should acknowledge what she felt was her true gender imo

Ok, apologies.

31-12-2014 11:58pm

Slicemeister wrote: »

If he was so critical of Catholic therapies why he didn't he seek out alternatives? Or were they just not available?

Underage, no money to pay for them, etc, I would say
Probs need parental consent for that stuff under 18?

Links234 · 01-01-2015 12:19am

It's just a horrific tragedy, this has been all over my facebook feed and friends talking about it, it's just... I've no words really. It's nothing short of monstrous the way some Christian parents treat their LGBT children, and I'm just so unbelievably lucky that I have a supportive parent.

Oryx · 01-01-2015 1:14am

Jehovahs witnesses get stick over not allowing certain medical interventions. To my mind this is just as bad. Those parents couldnt handle having a 'broken' child, now they have no child at all. This girl (for thats what she was) should be alive. Blinkered thinking killed her.

J_E · 01-01-2015 3:06am

Eventually I lied to them and told them I was straight and that I was a boy, and then the derogatory speech and neglect started to fade. I tried my absolute hardest to live up to their standards and be a straight male, but eventually I realized that I hated religion and my parents. I came out as gay in school, hoping to ease my friends into the whole LGBT thing before I came out as trans. Although my friends reactions were mostly positive my parents were beyond pissed. They took me out of public school, took away my phone and computer, and wouldn't let me on social media websites, so I was out of contact with any of my friends. I was like this for 5 months, completely and utterly alone. I wasn't allowed to talk to anyone outside of church and I wasn't allowed to be with any of my friends, I just had to stay in my house and be quiet.

This is straight up child abuse... I'd hold the parents accountable for something like that.

Links234 · 02-01-2015 12:33am

Dan Savage has said:

If Tyler Clementi's roommate could be prosecuted - and he was - then the parents of Leelah Alcorn can and should be.

I find it hard to disagree

Trans tragedy in US

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