Massive new house at the end of Sea Road

It's been having renovations, possibly big ones, but isn't new. Has been large property there as long as I've been in Galway.

I've heard a name associated with it, not repeating it here though 'cos I've only picked it up as hearsay rather than fact.

That link didn't work Antobrien, but I reckon the planning app is file number 08687

Names are as expected.

Cute that both the address and description are as Gailge ... I guess it keeps blow-ins from snooping around and finding out too much from the Planning Database

OP, if you've some Irish, then you might be able to figure out more about it from this:

CEAD PLEANALA A CUIR ISTEACH LE HAIGH TAIRGEADH SCARTAIL DON TEACH AON STOR AGUS TAIRGEADH TOGAIL I GCOMHAIR TEACH AMHAIN TRI STOR OS COINN IOSLACH. FREISIN TA CEAD PLEANALA LE HAIGH FAL TEORANN LAIREACH A BHAINT AMACH AGUS TEORANN CUAILLE AGUS RAILLE A

Mrs OBumble wrote: »

That link didn't work Antobrien, but I reckon the planning app is file number 08687

Sorry about that, the link doesn't seem to work unless the session is already running.

doolox wrote: »

It should be compulsory that such planning applications should be available in ALL our official languages.

On the contrary they should only be submitted in Irish, as it would stop busy bodies and blow ins from objecting to everything in (or in this case out of) sight.

_Whimsical_ wrote: »

Madness!As already pointed out 90% of the population don't understand it.
And who is to say it's not that 10% that do who are the biggest busy bodies?

I think it's unfair to have it in Irish without an English translation alongside. You have a right to understand if a neighbour's building plans will impact your property regardless of your origin or native tongue. There are lots of foreign people living here that add to the place considerably and most of us don't like our friends and neighbours who are foreign referred to as blow ins who should have less rights.

If it's that big a concern to you, you'll learn the language.

Same goes for inclusivity, if it's that big of a concern you'll make an effort to integrate.

Mrs OBumble wrote: »

It's not only foreigners who are blow-ins: I'm told that to count as a Galwegian you need to have at least four generations buried in Forthill by Irwins.

And if you can't trace your family back to one of the tribes etc etc etc.

Mrs OBumble wrote: »

And I know lots of Irish people who didn't manage to learn Irish as children, unlikely that they'll manage as adults.

And that's the problem of people who grow up using Irish why?

Mrs OBumble wrote: »

Ahh, you might call it common courtesy towards their intellectually less-well-endowed friends and neighbours :rolleyes:

Common courtesy my ar*e, this is about laziness pure and simple.

Like I said earlier, if it means that much to somebody they'll find male an effort to figure it out.

Mrs OBumble wrote: »

I would be very, very surprised if the people who own the mansion house that is being rebuilt conduct their daily lives and business in Irish.

Do you know them? Do you know if my family use Irish at home?

antoobrien wrote: »

Common courtesy my ar*e, this is about laziness pure and simple.

Like I said earlier, if it means that much to somebody they'll find male an effort to figure it out.



Do you know them? Do you know if my family use Irish at home?

Is it your house?

I don't know about MrsOBumbles crystal ball but mine tells me you got out of the wrong/irrational side of the bed this morning, or that you have had a bad experience with a planning application.

This is what we have google translate for.

Planning permission to enter the proposed demolition of the house hi-storey building and offers for home attracting only three storey over basement. Planning permission has also greatly benefit laireach boundary fence to reach the border post and rail and a replacement to be comhteorann between the house and the house offered laireach contained therein, together with related bodies fly and landscaping work

Well not perfect, but good enough to know they will demolish the existing, build a new three story with basement and put in a new post and rail fence at the boundary.

Intifada wrote: »

People arguing that Irish shouldn't be used in Ireland. Embarrassing stuff.

That's certainly not what I'm saying.

My line is that an English translation should be provided also. Not for the sake of immigrants, but for the sake of the large proportion of Irish people who are unable to speak their own language, due to the inadequate education provided to them as children. Saying that they were just lazy at the time, and so don't deserve to know what's going on is just nasty elitism.

And I'm pointing out that it's particularly sneaky to put in planning applications like this, knowing full well that people who search the planning database will most likely search for the English version of the address, not the Irish one. (It's easy enough to get a translation once you have the content - the hard bit is finding the content. Especially in this case where the address of the property concerned is given as Fr Griffin Rd, not Sea Rd - or at least I assume that's what it is, given the look of the words in the system)

kevthecelt wrote: »

Does anybody know anything about this house/compound or who is building it? It's straight in front of you as you get to the end of Sea Road. It is an absolute behemoth on a large amount of land. I had assumed it was a new apartment block until a builder told me it was a house :eek:

There has been a house on that part of the site since the early 1990's

GerardKeating wrote: »

Any photos ?

One feature of the site is the relative privacy - the walls stop people from being able to see in.

You underestimate the nosiness of Galwegians

Anyone who values privacy wouldn't build a mansion sized house in the middle of a city.

?Cee?view wrote: »

Behind a high wall, covered by trees with a planning app in Irish...

And high gates around it.

The days of not commenting about your betters in The Big House are long gone - thank goodness.

The whole point of the planning process is that it's no longer acceptable to do whatever the hell you want so long as it's in your own property outside of the public eye, without the scrutiny of society at large. This application was submitted, and has received such scrutiny. Part of the process is that information about it is publicly available.

I honestly don't see anyone here being nasty. There is a very large chunk of prime city land tied up in the one house. Someone commented about it, other explained.

?Cee?view wrote: »

Behind a high wall, covered by trees with a planning app in Irish...

That family came into Galway about four generations ago from an Irish speaking part of Connemara. They are as entitled as anybody else to publish their planning notices in Irish

People have an entitlement to place the planning application in either Irish or English. Also the planning application would have had to have been on public display for a number of weeks. If people that desperately want to find who it is why not just get someone to translate the application.