Is it too late to save the Late Late Show (Mod warning post #434)

For Reals wrote: »

Hey, the elderly are people too!
Just because many are a captive audience who, as pointed out, will watch pretty much anything, that doesn't mean they like it. As the older generations become more DVD/Streaming savvy, we'll see this show fade unless it picks up.
With changing hosts there is always hope, but using the ever changing, never be the same again, world as a reasoning for the shows quality decline is baloney. There are still amazing interviews and documentaries happening. The Internet means we get news fast but generally sound bite driven snippets. Although this is enough for some people who skim the main points, some are interested in the story. That's, sadly, what the LLS fails to deliver. It gives no more insight then you can get from Wikipedia or any random youtube search. That's bad production and presentation, not because of the times. Its not even necessarily due to lack of Hollywood talent as guests. Even back in the days of Gay the shine wore off if there wasn't a good anecdote teased out of them. The only entertaining thing about having a Hollywood A-lister on the LLS would be waiting on Ryan's gaffe.
He plain sucks and there seems to be no talent in the production department.
"You're sick, tell us about it" "Your famous, what's that like?"
Riveting.

Tubridy's show offers nothing to older or younger audiences. I am aware of people of all ages who view it as poor. Young or old alike can sit back and pop in a DVD of their favourite action film, western, TV series, comedy, concert, etc. instead or they can switch to Graham Norton, the TNG western, or even the BBC news if they prefer.

Tubridy has a lot of competition and it is far more entertaining. But Tubridy does not even seem to care: he continues on as always. He is one of the poorest chatshow around at present. It seems to have no audience in mind or either does it satisfy the 'something for everybody' philosophy'. Something for nobody would be more of a description!

BabysCoffee wrote: »

CountyHurler wrote: »

Watching his ex colleague Oliver Callan the other night, it is clear to me that Oliver Callan is the only person in Montrose who is prepared to cast a critical eye on Tubridy and his dreadful tenure of The Late Late Show. They've stood by him through his interviews with Juliette Binnoche, Ronan Keating, Cuba Gooding Junior, The Anchormen etc etc.... it's been apparent from very early on that the only thing the man is proficient in is bootlicking..

Callan either reads the LLS thread or maybe it is apparent to all that Tubs is a bumbling presenter and can only operate (badly) off the cue cards.

Tubridy needs to be pulled from the LLS and given a quiz show where he can read questions off cards to his little hearts content.

A new presenter is needed.....urgently.

Tubridy's tenure as host has indeed seen this show go downhill completely. Poor interviewing and focus on the wrong issues has made many a guest seem boring. A typical Tubridy set of questions:

So, you have some Irish blood in you?
What part of Ireland do your anscestors comes from?
Do you like being in Ireland?
What do you like best about Ireland?
How is your newborn baby?
Can you show me a photo of your new baby?

etc., etc. That is the talent of the Tubridy!

Mc Love wrote: »

If RTE coughed up our money for GN would more people watch the show?? I think personally they would but the older generation wouldnt get him but would still watch out of loyalty!

Graham Norton earns 2.6m pounds a year.

RTE could never afford that nor would the public allow them to pay someone that highly.

Also even if Norton did come here he still wouldn't get the A list guests that he gets on BBC.

Mc Love wrote: »

He still had A listers on his Channel 4 show! RTE should have approached him before that ended!

And the common denominator of both his BBC and Channel 4 shows?

London.

We don't get the same calibre of A-listers coming through Dublin on a regular basis unfortunately.

They probably should have approached him but to be honest RTE are not renowned for their vision are they? They tend to try and force the square pegs already in Montrose into the round holes that they want to fill instead of shopping around for newer pegs with rounder edges.

I think he suited the light, not taken too serious, show he had prior to the LLS. He hasn't the depth or charisma to carry off any form of solid interview other than what we get off him, "Hollywood!, sure that's great for you. And you're sure you're not Irish?"

Tubridy's book, The Irish Are Coming, is awful. I looked through it and it is Friday nights in print form basically! Louis Walsh and One Direction feature bigtime. I can't understand is obsession with these (I always assumed Tubridy was more of a Frank Sinatra man back in the Tubridy Tonight days?????).

Tubridy's debut interview with Brian Cowen was a disaster for sure (a hint of things to come). Tubridy is not good at dealing with serious issues at all for sure. His show is supposed to be entertaining but instead it is lightweight and silly overall. Typically, it followings:

Section 1: some b-celeb plugs their whatever it is they do. Tubridy talks babies and being Irish to them.
Section 2: some sports star comes on and the interview conducted the same as section 1.
Section 3: the misery slot with Tubridy coming across as condescending.
Section 4: the best guest will usually be last and Tubridy will not engage with them. Back to the babbies!

The making of a good show is the right host and good guests. With Tubridy's LLS, you often have neither. Every year, he promises he will change and 'make the show his own'. But, Tubridy will continue to be a very poor host it seems.

Prior to Tubridy, Pat Kenny hosted the show from 1999 to 2009. He was often called unfit for light entertainment by his critics but he was a way better presenter of the show than Tubridy. He had a better interviewing technique and while he had his poor shows, Kenny was never one to grovel to the likes of Louis Walsh.

Kenny succeeded Gaybo who is the show really. Gaybo was a great host and had good guests. But, Gaybo was doing the show in a different time when more came to Ireland and more were alive that were very interesting guests. The music and entertainment world back then was filled with real legends and not just plasticy boy bands and dance acts. During his tenure, Gaybo had Hollywood icons, founding fathers of rock 'n' roll, top world comedians, top soccer stars, and plenty of good debates on his show. I know Tubridy cannot compete with this but still he does not make an effort to improve.

Mr Pseudonym wrote: »

Some might enjoy the hatchet-job review of Tubridy's Christmas book,

^ I did enjoy it, thanks..

Tubridy said earlier this year that he had a two book deal. The JFK book was his own idea (surprise surprise) but that he had to basically look around for an idea for the second book. Hardly a great pretext for writing a masterpiece.. The publisher and himself basically cashed in on his celebrity.. You couldnt imagine a proper broadcaster like Pat Kenny doing something like that..

sweetie wrote: »

I've never been a fan but caught a clip on Republic of telly of the Anchorman guys interview. Holy **** a transition year student could do a better job than Tubridy.

I gave up watching the show because of interviews like that. It is worse than bad! It is the single worst programme on TV in recent times.