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Openstreetmap - Mapping Galway City

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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 25,234 ✭✭✭✭Sponge Bob


    Galway, mainly thanks to the fact that Mackerski and Dacor....2 of the top Irish OSM mappers are or were based here...has a very complete look on OSM compared to a lot of places. More to do of course and more mappers and tracers are always welcome.

    But I would think that nobody need use any navigation aid other than Open Street Map in Galway .....today.

    That is a great tribute particularly to the 2 characters I mentioned.


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    Thanks for the nod spongebob but as I found out, there's WAY more than just me and mackerski ;)


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 25,234 ✭✭✭✭Sponge Bob


    You are implying I don't know the difference between 'mainly' and 'only' :D

    Seriously, Galway City looks fabulous on OSM.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,912 ✭✭✭galwaycyclist


    I also plan on putting all cycle lanes, paths, parking etc into the map in the new year so if the Galway cycling folks on this board already have data collected I would really appreciate you sending it my way as it would speed up the process 100 fold. Once this is done it should be possible to use navigation routing for your Sunday cycle ;)

    Some schemes for cycling maps have a special symbol for "cycle facilities that are not suitable for cycling". Would there be be something similar available for open street map?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,009 ✭✭✭jkforde


    am finding the new OSM editor for Android very good - http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Vespucci/Help - it makes editing small things while out & about very straightforward.

    🌦️ 6.7kwp, 45°, SSW, mid-Galway 🌦️

    "Since I no longer expect anything from mankind except madness, meanness, and mendacity; egotism, cowardice, and self-delusion, I have stopped being a misanthrope." Irving Layton



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    Some schemes for cycling maps have a special symbol for "cycle facilities that are not suitable for cycling". Would there be be something similar available. for open street map?

    There's definitely stuff like that for OSM. I can't give you a specific answer as I haven't looked too closely at cycling tagging yet.

    There is an article a journalist did on cycling across London I think using the same start and end points but using an OSM app configured for cycling Vs Google maps configured for cycling. I'm on the phone now but I'll post a link tomorrow to it.

    There's a fair few good things been done with OSM data done for cycling.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    jkforde wrote: »
    am finding the new OSM editor for Android very good - http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Vespucci/Help - it makes editing small things while out & about very straightforward.

    Noticed your edits tonight using it. It's handy alright


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 25,234 ✭✭✭✭Sponge Bob


    There is an open cycling map variant of OSM http://www.opencyclemap.org/ it may use extra tags


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    stack of bus stops etc added in the last day or so, thanks all, especially jkforde

    galwaycyclist, to come back to you, here is what I've come across this evening with regards cycling & OSM.

    First off a few example maps using OSM data:
    The Opencyclemap layer on the main OSM site provides one example of routes (note I didnt say roads ;) ) with cycle specific tagging. See the difference between Oxford and Galway

    http://openrouteservice.org/ - an example of routing for cycling. Chose fastest, shortest, racer or mountainbike. I've linked to Oxford which is one of the better cities set up for cycling on OSM. Have a play around and see how the route changes depending on whether you pick fastest Vs safest

    http://www.cyclestreets.net - This is an excellent resource for cycling and OSM. Included on the site is an excellent starter guide to show you how to get setup on OSM and how to make your first edits. it also gives some specifics for cycle mapping. There is also a slidedeck from cyclestreets which was presented at the annual OSM State of the Map conference

    http://www.openfietsmap.nl/ - This site provides downloadable maps for Garmin sat nav units with specific cycling maps. Ireland is not currently listed as an option, but I am providing this as an illustration.

    http://www.velomap.org/ - another site offering Garmin maps but also allows you to download and display maps on your PC or Mac. Includes some guides also similar to cyclestreets

    http://openmtbmap.org/ - Mountain bike specific maps from the same guy who does velomap

    http://cycling.waymarkedtrails.org/en/ - map of signposted bike trails around the world

    Resources:
    The openstreetmap wiki is where the majority of what you need will be found. It gets into very detailed specifics depending on what you want to tag, e.g. cycle routes & bike lanes, mountain bike routes, bike parking, bike rental, etc etc etc

    As I mentioned above, cyclestreets.net have some great bits on how to get started including a printable guide (15mb pdf).

    OSM bike path tutorial from Cycleious

    Some articles:
    Oxford paper cycle map
    Google maps Vs Cyclestreets: Battle for the best route planner

    I would happily meet with you or other Galway cycling folks and show you how to get started if you wanted. To be perfectly honest, me mapping this stuff will end up with only a basic map of all the cycle lanes. you guys mapping it (because you cycle the streets everyday) will result in a map which can be utilsed much better on the likes of smartphone app's, web based maps or printed maps.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    A map of all the playgrounds in Galway City. Is the map missing any?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,772 ✭✭✭civis_liberalis


    I don't know about the playgrounds but this map is getting mighty detailed...


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Its definitely looking a lot more "full" now that more and more people are adding to it

    I have moved to mapping outside the city now. If anyone lives outside the city check out my thread on the Galway county forum


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    The map of Galway roads, streets & residental areas is now close to 100% however there are a number of areas that I just have not been able to get details for.

    Please see the link below. Un-named roads are marked in red. If you know the names of these roads please update the map with the name. Alternatively you can post here and I will update the map myself.

    Many have worked hard over the last year to bring the road network to completion but its stalled now just before finishing. I would greatly appreciate any help people could give with this, link below

    http://qa.poole.ch/?zoom=13&lat=53.2763&lon=-9.05336&layers=TFB0


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,772 ✭✭✭civis_liberalis


    Adding a few. The one on the square is interesting. Deserves investigation.

    Others shouldn't be on the map imo, but not sure of osm guidelines are for that.

    The entrance to the parking before the lights on the docks coming from Queen Street is on private land and leads to private parking.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,209 ✭✭✭✭JohnCleary


    Lower Fairhill Road, beside Dominick St...

    The West - East road there between Four Star Pizza and Kashmir is "Burke's Lane"


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    JohnCleary wrote: »
    Lower Fairhill Road, beside Dominick St...

    The West - East road there between Four Star Pizza and Kashmir is "Burke's Lane"

    Cheers for that.

    If anyone else spots any others please post here with the details or alternatively go ahead and add the name yourself


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,772 ✭✭✭civis_liberalis


    OK WE GET THE HINT

    THANKS

    :D


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Haha


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,106 ✭✭✭antoobrien


    Cheers for that.

    If anyone else spots any others please post here with the details or aalternatively go ahead and add the name yourself
    Haha

    For services in cheek and sarcasm......
    anythting I notice missing I'm going to fix without telling you and still post it up here:P


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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Need a bit of help identifying a few bits that I'm having trouble getting info for. The links below open a map with a slider on the top right. Use the slider to switch between Bing imagery and openstreetmap background if you need it.

    • In Ballybane, there is something marked as a reservoir but I'm not sure thats what it is and would appreciate someone verifying what its is. you can see it here
    • Just below that "reservoir", are these the Ballybane allotments? If so, is there a specific name for them? Or is it something like a community garden or something else entirely?
    • In Ballybane, residential road that I can't find any signage for here
    • Murrough/Renmore, there is a block of apartments here that I can find no details for. The best piece of info I've gotten so far is "those are for the nun's" :confused:
    • Knocknacarra, there's an apartment block here
    As usual, any help anyone can give would be greatly appreciated.

    As a side note, recent progress for Galway
    - A few thousand addresses have been added for buildings throughout the city and its environs, though mostly residential, see Ballybrit as an example
    - Over a dozen new bus stops added since the last check, but there are still a huge amount missing, would appreciate bus users helping out with this if possible.
    - The majority of business clusters have been surveyed and mapped by people, adding location, names, ph no's, websites, fax no's etc. Full list and progress below.


    244364.jpg

    Full details on Galway progress, suburb by suburb can be found here (still a work in progress)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,084 ✭✭✭✭Mrs OBumble


    I don't know about the Ballybane reservior - but the area just below it is indeed the Ballybane Community Organic Garden. Fenced all round, not in allotments AFAIK.

    There are apartments in that spot in Renmore. They look kinda institutional, but there was no sign outside when I looked. I assumed that they were related to GMIT, but I guess a convent is possible too. And I have been told recently that the Sisters of Mercy have 40 elderly sisters living in apartments in Renmore.


    And did yoiu know there's an IDA mall Business Park on the corner of Tuam Rd and Connolly Ave?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,251 ✭✭✭bonzodog2


    AFAIK it is a reservoir, its marked as Tank on the OSI map.
    That street in Ballybane, is marked on Bing if you zoom in enough as another part of Ard Aoibhinn Drive


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    I don't know about the Ballybane reservior - but the area just below it is indeed the Ballybane Community Organic Garden. Fenced all round, not in allotments AFAIK.

    There are apartments in that spot in Renmore. They look kinda institutional, but there was no sign outside when I looked. I assumed that they were related to GMIT, but I guess a convent is possible too. And I have been told recently that the Sisters of Mercy have 40 elderly sisters living in apartments in Renmore.


    And did yoiu know there's an IDA mall Business Park on the corner of Tuam Rd and Connolly Ave?

    Added name and fencing around the Ballybane Community Organic Garden

    That ties in with what I'd heard also regarding the nun's. Another Galway mapper has marked it as sheltered housing as of earlier today so I'll leave it at that and just added Sisters of Mercy as the operators of the housing

    Do you know, I've driven past that estate every time I go into town and never once thought to go into it. I've added it to the list and named it as IDA Small Business Park. I'll update it more once I get a chance to take a spin around there, cheers
    bonzodog2 wrote: »
    AFAIK it is a reservoir, its marked as Tank on the OSI map.
    That street in Ballybane, is marked on Bing if you zoom in enough as another part of Ard Aoibhinn Drive

    So the original tagging of it was correct, thats great. I've just added a reservoir_type tag to it to state its a covered one. Should prevent confusion if anyone else ever comes across it

    Cheers, but unfortunately I can not use information from Bing, imagery yes, map details, no. Thanks though, appreciate the help :)



    Anyone know any details for the apartments in Knocknacarra? If not, no worries, I'll be out that way at some stage


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,009 ✭✭✭jkforde


    Anyone know any details for the apartments in Knocknacarra? If not, no worries, I'll be out that way at some stage

    I'll drop over there tomorrow sometime, save you the trip.

    🌦️ 6.7kwp, 45°, SSW, mid-Galway 🌦️

    "Since I no longer expect anything from mankind except madness, meanness, and mendacity; egotism, cowardice, and self-delusion, I have stopped being a misanthrope." Irving Layton



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    sweet, thanks!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,106 ✭✭✭antoobrien


    In Ballybane, there is something marked as a reservoir but I'm not sure thats what it is and would appreciate someone verifying what its is. you can see it here

    That is a reservoir, it serves the entire Castlepark area.
    [*]In Ballybane, residential road that I can't find any signage for here

    Ard Aobhean Drive - not sure of the exact spelling.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Cheers for that anto

    In relation to the bus stops in the city, I ran a query which anyone can view for themselves here

    I've screenshotted it below and straight off you can see the west of the city is looking great in terms of bus stops but the east is only partially done. There are 136 bus stops marked in Galway.

    If anyone knows of a stop on your street I would appreicate if you could zoom into on the map I've linked above and tell me if its there or missing. If its there, just click on it and see if the correct bus route is listed on it and if its not let me know and I'll fix it.

    Just let me know the Node number for the stop and the details that need to be added. You can see the Node number for a stop in the image below

    244676.jpg


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    For all this week I have a job active on MapCraft to add as many buildings as possible on the west side of the Corrib for Galway city. I started the job last night and so far 41 slices have been completed out of 183 but myself and other mappers from around the world.

    I would love it if some Galway folks would get involved.

    If anyone is interested you can find a full write up on how to do it on my OSM blogpost which can be found here.

    Its an easy way to get started into mapping in general, just simply adding buildings so if you are at all interested take a look.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Well, as of 6pm this evening every building west of the corrib was fully traced. There might be one or two that are missing, but the quantity would be likely less than 100 missing out of several thousand.

    I don't have exact figures yet, it'll be a day or two, before ITO updates with the data from todays date to show the jump in quantites.

    However, the starting point on 23rd Mar @ 3am was as follows:

    Galway City (West)
    Buildings: 3,764
    of which, 926 contain address information e.g. house number & street name its on

    Galway City (East) -
    Not part of this MapCraft job
    Buildings: 3,583
    of which, 2,164 contain address information e.g. house number & street name its on

    Again, I don't have exact figures, but I do know several Irish members of OSM helped out along with other OSM members from the likes of England, Belgium Estonia and even far flung places like South Africa & India.

    Once I have exact details I'll give an update.

    From start to finish it took less than 40 hours.

    Check out the end results here


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    So the numbers are in..

    3,764 buildings to start with, finished with over 10,000 at the end.

    Gathering of address data for all of these will take place next weekend (thats why these were needed)

    Check out this video showing how the start to finish progress of how this was completed and added to openstreetmap.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,251 ✭✭✭bonzodog2


    Re the apartment block on Ballyloughnane Rd, I think this is the planning application:
    http://gis.galwaycity.ie/planenq/PlanningAppDetails.aspx?fullFileNumber=26a-FS8808

    File Number: FS8808
    Local Authority: Galway City Co
    Date Received: 18/06/2008

    Convent of Mercy Trustees, Galway,

    Construction of a three storey residential convent consisting of 41 No. one bedroom apartments over basement.
    Development Address: Ballyloughaun Road,
    Renmore,
    Galway.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Just back from the annual State of the Map conference in Birmingham last weekend where I met up with a load of the Irish osm folks. One of the things we all acknowledged is that, as a group, we are pretty bad at mapping socially, as in a gang meeting in a pub, or cafe or library somewhere with the purpose of a combined effort to complete some sort of mapping task.

    With that in mind, next weekend I plan on setting up camp somewhere on Saturday afternoon, most likely some pub that offers free wifi and a plug socket or two for laptops (if anyone knows of such a place please let me know).

    Whether you are interested in openstreetmap and want to know how to get involved or just curious as to what its about / whats the point of it. I will be quite happy to sit and teach anyone who wishes to learn.

    For any specialist groups (cyclists, hikers, hill walkers, sailing folk etc) that have toyed with the idea of using OSM, I can show you how to get started to create your own maps, the way you want, show the features important to you.

    For civic minded folks, whose interests lie with community concerns, I can show you how you can use openstreetmap to communicate your message more effectively, how to use it to gather information important to your concerns / projects. In addition, anyone interested in humanitarian causes, I can show you how you can help with relief efforts in many parts of the world by mapping areas remotely, otherwise known as crisis mapping

    For anyone interested in learning how to edit, I can show you the many options open to you whether it be using a smartphone (iPhone or Android), pen and paper or on the PC/laptop (note: if interested in the PC option, please try to bring a laptop & mouse with you as it will be easier to teach if you have your own).

    Lastly, if anyone is just interested in seeing what OSM is about, and what you can do with all this open geo data, or just interested in discussing open data type topics in general, please feel free to come along too.

    I'll post more details once I have a venue


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    So its looking like this will be in the Skeff, this Sat, between 3-6pm (if it changes I'll post here)

    If anyone is planning to come along, just look for the table with a printed one of these images on it, hope to see some of you there

    OSM_fixed_512.png


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    For those interested in Openstreetmap, there is a meetup on Mar 8th in Dublin, details below, taken from here
    OpenStreetMap Hack Day

    TOG is hosting an OpenStreetMap hack day/meet up/barcamp! OSM members will meet up in Dublin and do open street mappy stuff on laptops in TOG. Like an indoor mapping party / hack day / social meet up / barcamp.

    What is OpenStreetMap?

    OpenStreetMap is a world wide, open content map. It’s Wikipedia meets Google Maps.

    If you’d like to learn more about OpenStreetMap, come along! Want to start mapping your local area, and want help? Come along! Want to find out how to use the low level OpenStreetMap data? Come along! This event is open to all, TOG members, non-TOG-members, general public, hardcore OSM mappers, and OSM newbies.

    If you’re an OSM mapper and would like come, but not sure what to do, don’t worry we have loads of townlands to map. :)
    Details

    The event is scheduled to run from 12noon until about 6pm on Saturday 8th March 2014. However there is not a fixed schedule so feel free to drop in or out whenever you want.

    There is no charge. The event is open to TOG members and members of the general public. Rory is the point of contact for the event. We’ll probably go for some beers or something that evening. You aren’t required to bring anything, but that will limit what you can do. I’d suggest bringing a laptop or something. TOG has free wifi.

    TOG & OpenStreetMap

    TOG has hosted a mapping party and held talks about OSM. TOG itself has been mapped on OSM for years, and when we moved to new premises, the location was updated. :)


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    anyone know what this building is in Leargan in Knocknacarra? Is it some kind of care home?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,772 ✭✭✭civis_liberalis


    anyone know what this building is in Leargan in Knocknacarra? Is it some kind of care home?

    I can't help you but I just have to say that I'm amazed at the amount of work that has been done on Galway city since I last looked at it on OSM.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 412 ✭✭IrlJidel


    anyone know what this building is in Leargan in Knocknacarra? Is it some kind of care home?

    Is it this? http://www.brothersofcharity.ie/galway/adults-services/adult-west/cois-saile-services/leargan/


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I can't help you but I just have to say that I'm amazed at the amount of work that has been done on Galway city since I last looked at it on OSM.

    yeah lots of folks have been tipping along adding info. I'm only back focusing on the city myself because I've a load of addresses collected that I need to add to the map. You can see the current state of addressing in Galway here. About 10,000 done, with probably double that still to be done
    IrlJidel wrote: »

    Thats it, thanks Irljidel


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    Check it out, Galway on OpenStreetMap 2007 Vs Now

    From blank to......

    316240.PNG


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,772 ✭✭✭civis_liberalis


    I was confused. I was waiting for the image to change or something. Didn't notice 2007/NOW immediately.

    Great work.


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    I was confused. I was waiting for the image to change or something. Didn't notice 2007/NOW immediately.

    Great work.

    Heh sorry no the image doesn't change, but if you visit the link you can see how much work has been done since 2007 in Ireland. Barring a few main routes, it was largely blank


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,753 ✭✭✭✭Geuze


    Note that some roads in Newcastle are mis-named.

    There are no such streets as:

    "Lower Newcastle road"

    "Upper Newcastle road"

    Years ago there was a street sign outside the hospital to explain all this, but it has since been removed.

    The stretch from Cooke's Corner (St. Mary's road/Shantalla road/St. Helen's street) to University road is known as Newcastle Road.

    The stretch from the hospital/University road/ Tesco Express heading north is known as Lower Newcastle and then Upper Newcastle.

    Note that there is no word "Road" in the names of these streets/roads.

    (Another example is Newtownsmith)

    This has been confirmed to me by the City Council.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,753 ✭✭✭✭Geuze


    This is the e-mail I received from the Council Roads Technician:

    "The situation is that Newcastle Road is from Cookes Corner to University Road. Lower Newcastle is from University Road to Snipe avenue and Upper Newcastle is from Snipe Avenue out.

    Regards,
    xxx"


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 28 cytop


    Regards,
    xxx

    Obviously someone who just loves their job...


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