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Local Elections 2014: What issues will you be raising with candidates on the door?

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    #302
    oblivious
    Registered Users Posts: 4,381 ✭✭✭oblivious


    Paulownia wrote: »
    One reason for taking them down is they will all want us to forget all the rash promises about abolishing water charges, sorting out hospital waiting lists, creating jobs etc.


    The sad things is that Councillors have no power to do the above.


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    #303
    Paulownia
    Registered Users Posts: 590 ✭✭✭Paulownia


    oblivious wrote: »
    The sad things is that Councillors have no power to do the above.

    But why pretend that they do? The counties are run by the civil servants who appear not to be resonsible to anyone except their self serving selves. Our county council offices don't even answer phones


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    #304
    chucknorris
    Registered Users Posts: 1,633 ✭✭✭chucknorris


    The elected Councillors meet for the first time today officially.

    All positions, committees etc should be known after today. The same slicing up of roles occurs across all councils nationally.

    Regarding water, nothing can be done at council level. The household tax can be reduced by 15% apparently at council level. It'll be interesting to see who votes against the budget and who votes for it at council level as the household tax maybe included within that budget.

    Finally, party political posturing rarely occurs at council level, particularly in Fingal. That's a positive.


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    #305
    oblivious
    Registered Users Posts: 4,381 ✭✭✭oblivious


    chucknorris wrote: »

    Regarding water, nothing can be done at council level. The household tax can be reduced by 15% apparently at council level. It'll be interesting to see who votes against the budget and who votes for it at council level as the household tax maybe included within that budget..


    I though FG said that would only happen of they controlled the counsel?


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    #306
    Grudaire
    Registered Users Posts: 3,620 ✭✭✭Grudaire


    chucknorris wrote: »
    The household tax can be reduced by 15% apparently at council level. It'll be interesting to see who votes against the budget and who votes for it at council level as the household tax maybe included within that budget.

    A fair few councillors were promising to use the 15% reduction. (I'm pretty sure I saw it on the Shinners, the socialists and Fianna Fáil [Chambers] leaflets)

    Interesting to see how that works out as they weren't offering to cut any services as well :pac:


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    #307
    oblivious
    Registered Users Posts: 4,381 ✭✭✭oblivious


    Paulownia wrote: »
    But why pretend that they do? The counties are run by the civil servants who appear not to be resonsible to anyone except their self serving selves. Our county council offices don't even answer phones

    I suspect is that most of the public does not really know what the CoCo powers really are


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    #308
    folan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,630 ✭✭✭folan


    oblivious wrote: »
    I suspect is that most of the public does not really know what the CoCo powers really are

    i suspect many of those who ran for the council don't either.


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    #309
    chucknorris
    Registered Users Posts: 1,633 ✭✭✭chucknorris


    Grudaire wrote: »
    A fair few councillors were promising to use the 15% reduction. (I'm pretty sure I saw it on the Shinners, the socialists and Fianna Fáil [Chambers] leaflets)

    Interesting to see how that works out as they weren't offering to cut any services as well :pac:


    A lot of newly elected councillors did not know or still do not know what they can and cannot do. The re-elected councillors would know exactly what the can and cannot do.

    Some NEWLY elected councillors will find they cannot get houses for anyone :-)

    What is important is balancing the books with the budget and some fairy tale economics will be exposed shortly if total opposition is evident from some.

    Contrary to popular belief, there will be quite a few councillors who know exactly how council works and work with it.


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    #310
    Paulownia
    Registered Users Posts: 590 ✭✭✭Paulownia


    and they can earn up to 70k p.a. out of the taxpayers pocket while they learn the ropes!


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    #311
    chucknorris
    Registered Users Posts: 1,633 ✭✭✭chucknorris


    Paulownia wrote: »
    and they can earn up to 70k p.a. out of the taxpayers pocket while they learn the ropes!

    Did you read the recent release of expenses claimed by our local councillors?

    2014 is not in this one, but here's a look back over the previous council 5 year term.

    The annual payment to a Councillor before expenses etc is €17000. After expenses it may get to about 20k, whilst others (very few) will get to 30k, 40k or even 50k if they serve as a mayor or lead certain committees.

    €17k is a part time payment for what realistically is a full time work load. It's good value to the state in my opinion.

    http://www.fingalcoco.ie/your-council/budgets-expenditure-and-financial-statements/councillors-allowances-expenses-conferences/allowances-and-expenses/


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    #312
    expectationlost
    Registered Users Posts: 11,770 ✭✭✭✭expectationlost


    trying to figure out new councillors pay and expenses http://dublinstreams.blogspot.ie/2014/06/fingal-county-council-councillors-pay.html this is what i've gathered so far

    cllrallformula.jpg

    trying to find a real world example of this formula https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AqAEiinGYynOdGlJWk5EWVNFZ3VVZTZ6bjJhU1lleWc&usp=drive_web#gid=47

    these association of irish local government docs are of use to anyone trying to understand what local government does,

    induction training course papers http://ailg.ie/general-items/induction-training-course-papers/

    and regulations and legislation papers http://ailg.ie/general-items/legislation-regulations/

    and expenses http://ailg.ie/uploads/file/pdf/lg12-2014-si-235-of-2014-local-g-overnment-representational-payment-for-membersamendment-regulations-2014-1.pdf


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    #313
    MammaZita
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 426 ✭✭MammaZita


    David McGuinness poster still up in Clonsilla village...


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    #314
    Sid7
    Registered Users Posts: 7 ✭Sid7


    MammaZita wrote: »
    David McGuinness poster still up in Clonsilla village...

    I'm sure that's outside his Office. He wouldn't leave a poster up on purpose or have missed it.


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    January
    Closed Accounts Posts: 23,865 ✭✭✭✭January


    If it's on a building near the Spar then it's his office.


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    #316
    MammaZita
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 426 ✭✭MammaZita


    Sid7 wrote: »
    I'm sure that's outside his Office. He wouldn't leave a poster up on purpose or have missed it.

    I thought as much! My 6 year old was giving out about it as we passed today- I was driving so couldn't look. I forgot his constituency office was there. My mistake.


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    #317
    Sid7
    Registered Users Posts: 7 ✭Sid7


    MammaZita wrote: »
    I thought as much! My 6 year old was giving out about it as we passed today- I was driving so couldn't look. I forgot his constituency office was there. My mistake.

    Haha ! Fair play to the boy. He's on the ball.


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