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Will you wear a poppy 2013?

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    #2372
    LordSutch
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,078 ✭✭✭✭LordSutch


    moxin wrote: »
    You might spot the odd one or two in a city wearing one, they are usually British tourists visiting here or British workers who immigrated and have not assimilated yet.

    I saw eight people in Dublin today in the space of five mins wearing Poppies, two of whom were Canadians I think? (according to their accents) and the non standard 'stick on' nature of their poppies. The rest looked and sounded Irish to me. Tomorrow & Monday will be the days when most folk 'who follow the tradition' and make a contribution in the ROI wear theirs.
    moxin wrote: »
    The vast majority of the Irish people don't wear one as they don't support the British military, they support the Irish military instead and simply put, they ain't Unionists.

    True, that in recent decades the vast majority of Irish people don't wear poppies anymore. Reason being that the further WWI & WWII retreat into the past, the fewer the people/relatives who & carry on the practice of supporting the Irish Poppy appeal fund . . .

    PS; Tomorrow is Remembrance Sunday, and my own South Dublin Church will be filled with Poppy wearing folk, as it always has been since the Poppy was first introduced after WWI.


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    #2373
    Fratton Fred
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    Happyman42 wrote: »
    you are aware that the EDL are now selling the poppy? That part of the problems with the growth in the display of poppy and poppy fascism are related to it's use by people like this? I say part, because you also have the problem that it is being hijacked to garner support for what Britain's army is doing today

    Big ****ing deal, the EDL are a small bunch of bigoted Neanderthals that resort to the last resort of the scoundrel.


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    #2374
    therandomguy
    Registered Users Posts: 30 ✭therandomguy


    I think they are to remember all the war dead. Not just the British ones. I would wear one if I could get one. Every tv presenter wears them. It must be in their contract.


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    #2375
    LordSutch
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    BBC One now, 9:15 - 10:50pm

    Festival of Remembrance at the Royal Albert Hall.


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    #2376
    Happyman42
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,066 ✭✭✭✭Happyman42


    Fratton Fred wrote: »
    Big ****ing deal, the EDL are a small bunch of bigoted Neanderthals that resort to the last resort of the scoundrel.

    Nothing is a deal in Britain's green and pleasant land. :rolleyes:


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    #2377
    Hubert de la Poer
    Registered Users Posts: 13 ✭Hubert de la Poer


    Remembrance Day is held in many countries not just Britain.
    South Africa - who fought against Britain and then with Britain and is now a republic.
    India - who fought against Britain and then with Britain and is now a republic.
    ... and plenty others.

    In those countries they remember THEIR dead who fought under British command in WWI/II and THEIR current armed forces NOT what current British armed forces did/doing in NI, Afghanistan etc etc

    Why can't the same happen here?

    Of course, if you are of the belief that those Irishmen who fought were wrong to do so, then you wouldn't commemorate them.

    Using Remembrance Day and the Poppy Appeal as another excuse to attack the British is poor in my opinion.

    Yes I get it - if you are a republican either you the wounds are still there or it hasn't been long enough to heal. The British army to you is the enemy. That is understandable - it's the same for the other side.

    This mudslinging of who is the worst blah blah blah is childish in the extreme.
    Every side honours it's dead - and I believe they always will.

    One thing is annoying me more than most thought, and that is the moaning by those people that go on about the Poppy Appeal being rammed down your throats I think are being ridiculous - how can you complain about another countries culture being promoted on its own tv stations whilst you are watching that countries tv channels but not in that country is beyond me!


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    #2378
    Happyman42
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    Hubert de la Poer wrote: »

    Using Remembrance Day and the Poppy Appeal as another excuse to attack the British is poor in my opinion.

    This is just silly.
    I have no interest in attacking the British, if they want to wear a poppy...wear away. I am interested in why they wear the poppy and the current and growing voices against wearing the poppy because of what it has come to stand for.


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    #2379
    Karl Stein
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    Look lads, it's a brand new contributor.
    Hubert de la Poer wrote: »
    This mudslinging of who is the worst blah blah blah is childish in the extreme.

    That's not even a question. The British Armed forces underpinned murderous imperialism the world over - Irish Republicans, who fought them, look like a bunch of peace loving hippies in comparison.
    how can you complain about another countries culture

    War culture? Fuck that shit. I guess that's where Loyalists actually have something in common with the British establishment in that their 'culture' celebrates war. Some fcking culture that.


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    #2380
    citytillidie
    Registered Users Posts: 22,061 ✭✭✭✭citytillidie


    So any complaints about footballers not having a poppy on their tops today???

    ******



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    #2381
    Happyman42
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    Hubert de la Poer wrote: »

    One thing is annoying me more than most thought, and that is the moaning by those people that go on about the Poppy Appeal being rammed down your throats I think are being ridiculous - how can you complain about another countries culture being promoted on its own tv stations whilst you are watching that countries tv channels but not in that country is beyond me!


    And another thing to scotch this bolloxology ^^^^ the BBC broadcast into my sitting room, I pay for it (if they aren't making money from it, that's their problem) and it's legal, and I will comment on what they do and broadcast.


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    #2382
    SoulandForm
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    LordSutch wrote: »
    BBC One now, 9:15 - 10:50pm

    Festival of Remembrance at the Royal Albert Hall.

    Do you seriously watch that?

    If you do what feelings does it inspire in you?


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    #2383
    Hubert de la Poer
    Registered Users Posts: 13 ✭Hubert de la Poer


    Happyman42 wrote: »
    This is just silly.
    I have no interest in attacking the British, if they want to wear a poppy...wear away. I am interested in why they wear the poppy and the current and growing voices against wearing the poppy because of what it has come to stand for.
    Really? You are just interested in why British people wear a Poppy?
    I'm sceptical due to the large number of anti British posts on this tread.

    The growing voice against wearing a poppy is probably in proportion to the growing voice for wearing a poppy and remains pretty tiny in the uk from what I've seen and heard.
    The increase in casualties and focus on the armed forces over the last few years due to Iraq2 and Afghan has been massive.
    Any increase in voices for or against the poppy is due to this.

    I would not agree with you that the poppy has come to stand for anything new.


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    #2384
    wazky
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    citytillidie wrote: »
    So any complaints about footballers not having a poppy on their tops today???

    I mentioned the militarisation of football a few days ago.


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    #2385
    Hubert de la Poer
    Registered Users Posts: 13 ✭Hubert de la Poer


    Happyman42 wrote: »
    And another thing to scotch this bolloxology ^^^^ the BBC broadcast into my sitting room, I pay for it (if they aren't making money from it, that's their problem) and it's legal, and I will comment on what they do and broadcast.

    Yes but it's a British channel made for a British audience. The fact you can watch it doesn't mean it's meant for the Irish market. It's not


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    #2386
    citytillidie
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    wazky wrote: »
    I mentioned the militarisation of football a few days ago.

    Some where here praising Martin O'Neil and Keane for wearing on seeming to ignore the tv poppy rule

    ******



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    #2387
    Happyman42
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    Hubert de la Poer wrote: »
    Yes but it's a British channel made for a British audience. The fact you can watch it doesn't mean it's meant for the Irish market. It's not

    It's in my sitting room, I'll comment on it on an Irish forum with no fear or favour. Should we ban British posters on here for the same reasons?


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    #2388
    Hubert de la Poer
    Registered Users Posts: 13 ✭Hubert de la Poer


    Carlos Roca wrote: »
    Look lads, it's a brand new contributor.



    That's not even a question. The British Armed forces underpinned murderous imperialism the world over - Irish Republicans, who fought them, look like a bunch of peace loving hippies in comparison.



    War culture? Fuck that shit. I guess that's where Loyalists actually have something in common with the British establishment in that their 'culture' celebrates war. Some fcking culture that.

    As I said every nation remembers their dead - even you guys do.
    You don't have to like it but retorts such as yours are pretty pathetic.


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    #2389
    Hubert de la Poer
    Registered Users Posts: 13 ✭Hubert de la Poer


    Happyman42 wrote: »
    It's in my sitting room, I'll comment on it on an Irish forum with no fear or favour. Should we ban British posters on here for the same reasons?

    Of course you're free to comment on what you want - doesn't make what you say right though!


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    #2390
    Happyman42
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,066 ✭✭✭✭Happyman42


    Hubert de la Poer wrote: »
    As I said every nation remembers their dead - even you guys do.
    You don't have to like it but retorts such as yours are pretty pathetic.

    Pathetic like re-reg's Keith?


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    #2391
    Karl Stein
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,689 ✭✭✭Karl Stein


    Hubert de la Poer wrote: »
    retorts such as yours are pretty pathetic.

    The truth is hard to hear is it? How exactly is it pathetic? Show me how it's pathetic. What is pathetic is banging drums every summer to celebrate a 300 years old war so you can shove it down the throats of your neighbours who don't give a shit about it anyway.


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    #2392
    SoulandForm
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    Hubert de la Poer wrote: »
    Yes but it's a British channel made for a British audience. The fact you can watch it doesn't mean it's meant for the Irish market. It's not

    A part of Ireland is under British rule- this is what makes it a bit of an Irish issue, also lets remember that not all British people are into the red poppy- you also have the whole white poppy thing which goes back years and is not something you can blame on Irish nationalism.


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    #2393
    Hubert de la Poer
    Registered Users Posts: 13 ✭Hubert de la Poer


    Happyman42 wrote: »
    Pathetic like re-reg's Keith?

    Sorry don't understand?

    Banned.


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    #2394
    Happyman42
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    Hubert de la Poer wrote: »
    Sorry don't understand?

    If you would just pick names unrelated to your upper class British military heroes you might get to last more than a few posts.


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    #2395
    Hubert de la Poer
    Registered Users Posts: 13 ✭Hubert de la Poer


    SoulandForm wrote: »
    A part of Ireland is under British rule- this is what makes it a bit of an Irish issue, also lets remember that not all British people are into the red poppy- you also have the whole white poppy thing which goes back years and is not something you can blame on Irish nationalism.

    I said that in my first post:
    Yes I get it - if you are a republican either you the wounds are still there or it hasn't been long enough to heal. The British army to you is the enemy. That is understandable - it's the same for the other side.

    I've never said all British people support the red poppy.
    Don't forget the Purple poppy also


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    #2396
    Hubert de la Poer
    Registered Users Posts: 13 ✭Hubert de la Poer


    Happyman42 wrote: »
    If you would just pick names unrelated to your upper class British military heroes you might get to last more than a few posts.

    You've confused me with someone else.
    I am not called Keith


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    #2397
    Happyman42
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    Hubert de la Poer wrote: »
    You've confused me with someone else.
    I am not called Keith

    Yes you where. ;)


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    #2398
    Hubert de la Poer
    Registered Users Posts: 13 ✭Hubert de la Poer


    Happyman42 wrote: »
    Yes you where. ;)

    Wow this is great - I thought I'd post my views on a thread that is been interested in for a while.

    Instead I get someone insisting I'm someone else, just from reading a couple of my posts.

    The forum uses usernames so I can't prove who I am - not going to keep arguing on such a stupid point!

    Bye for now


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    #2399
    A Dub in Glasgo
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    wazky wrote: »
    I mentioned the militarisation of football a few days ago.

    Wait til you see what the 3rd place club in Glasgow get up to :pac:


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    #2400
    citytillidie
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    bumper234 wrote: »
    So point out someone from Britain doing a Nazi salute and it's shocking. Point out that young Irish men can be idiots too and it's sad. The double standards that the so called Republicans on these forums revert to are laughable at best.

    So you can't see the irony of someone wearing a poppy giving a nazi salute ?

    Bit like that picture of rangers "fans" giving the nazi salute while having an Israeli flag

    ******



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    #2401
    Happyman42
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    Hubert de la Poer wrote: »
    Bye for now

    You and LordRothery heading for a pint, old boy? ;)


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