Censorship on the Boards

Quis Custodiet · 10-10-2005 4:12pm #1

Could one of the admin super persons take a look at the "shooting" forum where the two active moderators seem to have lost the run of themselves. One spends all his time engaged in debate so futile that he is annoying everybody and the other has banned me for trying to point this out in a gentle and humorous way. The ban is permanent and site wide so , needless to say, it was under another ID.

edanto · 10-10-2005 4:23pm

I'm just glad all you friendly chaps have guns.

Doctor J · 10-10-2005 4:30pm

Well creating a new account, rather than posting this in Prison, has just cemented your site-wide ban, I would imagine.

Quis Custodiet · 10-10-2005 4:32pm

If you want to find out what I did to get banned follow this URL and play the short musical clip.
http://www.wecollect2.com/sounds/SparkyPianoSample.MP3

Sparks · 10-10-2005 4:40pm

QC, you were banned for posting several time under several different IDs, all of which were far from humerous posts, but were instead bad-minded efforts all trying to convey one message; namely, "shut up". You breached the charter; you were banned accordingly.

As to the charge, far from censorship, we've been bending over backwards, ignoring personal attacks on moderators and pretty fundamental breaches of the board Charter in order to let a senior member in the sport's administration put forward his position because it was felt to be important to get that matter out in the open in one place instead of cropping up a dozen times a week in unrelated threads. If you don't want to read that thread, just don't. You have to actively choose to read it.

Quis Custodiet · 10-10-2005 4:50pm

What beautiful timing and what a perfect example! Listen to the musical link above and then look at the language in Sparks post. Do they seem in any way related? Not at all. Here we have the moderator from one board, following me over here to the feedback board and attempting to keep me quiet in a display of blatant verbal aggression. Please, please help, super admin persons.Free speech is at stake.

Baz_ · 10-10-2005 4:59pm

Quis Custodiet wrote:

Hi,

One of my multiple accounts has been site banned for having multiple accounts.

I would like to use one of my multiple accounts to complain about the fact that another one of my multiple has been site banned.

I am going to use a completely seperate issue altogether as a smokescreen, but have no doubt it's actually because I have multiple accounts.

I know that I am not allowed to have multiple accounts, but I still do so there.

Quis Custodiet.

P.S. I am silly

eemmmm.....

no comment.

Quis Custodiet · 10-10-2005 5:06pm

Maybe I did not make myself clear.The mutiple accounts were linear, not parrallel. The only way to get back on the board to question a banning is to create another account. I kept doing this and the mods kept banning me so I came to this forum as a higher court.None of the accounts existed simultaneously.

ecksor · 10-10-2005 5:12pm

You don't have freedom of speech on boards.ie, nor do you have any of my interest in taking your word on an issue that you don't cite examples for.

PS, you are banned, please don't come back.

Quis Custodiet · 10-10-2005 5:18pm

Er what is that a few posts above if not an example?

Talliesin · 10-10-2005 5:26pm

Banned again, take it to Prison.

sceptre · 10-10-2005 8:50pm

Quis Custodiet wrote:

I kept doing this and the mods kept banning me so I came to this forum as a higher court.

Specifically I kept site-banning you. Four times if I remember correctly. Three of those bans were for creating accounts to evade an existing ban. The first was for being a plonker.

rsynnott · 10-10-2005 10:51pm

Some of these people wandering round with guns are rather worrying, really.

muffler · 10-10-2005 11:46pm

ecksor wrote:

You don't have freedom of speech on boards.ie, nor do you have any of my interest in taking your word on an issue that you don't cite examples for.

PS, you are banned, please don't come back.

What exactly is meant here? Are you referring specifically to Q C or are you saying that free speech is not allowed generally

rsynnott · 10-10-2005 11:49pm

muffler wrote:

What exactly is meant here? Are you referring specifically to Q C or are you saying that free speech is not allowed generally

Okay, maybe new users should be required to type "I acknolege I don't have free speech on boards" when signing up; would save this same question every week.

CuLT · 11-10-2005 12:23am

muffler wrote:

What exactly is meant here? Are you referring specifically to Q C or are you saying that free speech is not allowed generally

It's not that it's "not allowed", it just doesn't exist.

Boards.ie is a privately owned company, there is no such thing as "freedom of speech" within it's boundaries.

GoneShootin · 11-10-2005 12:34am

@ rsynnotTrue - but they keep us entertained and offer an outlet for our built up angst.

De Profundis · 11-10-2005 4:00pm

If I understand correctly, what is being said here, by the owners(super moderators, etc.), is that this "benign dictatorship", as described by exsor, is their plaything. It is an imaginary universe where they can hide behind their avatars, disconnected from the real world(how many of you are academics or students?) and play god. Nothing wrong with that, as long as you continue to distinguish reality from the boards, but most of the posters here do not know this. They think you are offering a service. No doubt, the moderators are selected because they reflect the image of the founders. They are lesser gods in this pantheon of megalomania.This explains why moderators do not have to moderate when they can indulge their whims. I wonder how long you will leave this post before banning me and removing it or do you have the cajones to let the debate begin?

Beruthiel · 11-10-2005 4:11pm

as you're a troll a/c
8 mins...

BuffyBot · 11-10-2005 5:27pm

If I understand correctly, blah blah blah blah conspiracy theory blah blah rant let the debate begin?

Sorry, I zoned out in the middle. I can't believe you weren't equipped with an off switch.

mike65 · 11-10-2005 5:43pm

De Profundis wrote:

If I understand correctly, what is being said here, by the owners(super moderators, etc.), is that this "benign dictatorship", as described by exsor, is their plaything. It is an imaginary universe where they can hide behind their avatars, disconnected from the real world(how many of you are academics or students?) and play god. Nothing wrong with that, as long as you continue to distinguish reality from the boards, but most of the posters here do not know this. They think you are offering a service. No doubt, the moderators are selected because they reflect the image of the founders. They are lesser gods in this pantheon of megalomania.This explains why moderators do not have to moderate when they can indulge their whims. I wonder how long you will leave this post before banning me and removing it or do you have the cajones to let the debate begin?

Ahhh! You know I agree with some of this (much of boards.ie is completely disconnected from Real Life) and yet laugh cos I've been mistaken for a mini-Ecksor!

Mike.

Asok · 11-10-2005 6:03pm

Can't we go a fortnight without some sort of "fight the power" spastics parade?

Baz_ · 11-10-2005 6:13pm

Asok wrote:

Can't we go a fortnight without some sort of "fight the power" spastics parade?

Highly unlikely to be honest, I say unionise!

Only the shop stewards should be allowed to post on feedback

Giblet · 11-10-2005 6:15pm

De Profundis wrote:

If I understand correctly, what is being said here, by the owners(super moderators, etc.), is that this "benign dictatorship", as described by exsor, is their plaything. It is an imaginary universe where they can hide behind their avatars, disconnected from the real world(how many of you are academics or students?) and play god. Nothing wrong with that, as long as you continue to distinguish reality from the boards, but most of the posters here do not know this. They think you are offering a service. No doubt, the moderators are selected because they reflect the image of the founders. They are lesser gods in this pantheon of megalomania.This explains why moderators do not have to moderate when they can indulge their whims. I wonder how long you will leave this post before banning me and removing it or do you have the cajones to let the debate begin?

As yes, making assumptions about mods and passing them off as facts. Do whatever makes you happy but know that you are wrong. What proof do you have that *most* of the mods/posters engage is such behaviour? I think you'll find that no-one hides behind anything here and it is just you being paranoid and projecting this silly scenario of how moderators act to satisfy your own self-righteousness. And then the typical "I bet you won't leave this here and if you delete it it proves I am right" clause right at the end there. Proves what to who besides yourself exactly? There is no debate. You are allowed to post here under the restrictions set by the people who own the place, when you violate these terms, your right to post here is suspended. A right given freely and taken away just as freely. It works so well, but of course, you know how to run things better...

muffler · 11-10-2005 6:17pm

rsynnott wrote:

Okay, maybe new users should be required to type "I acknolege I don't have free speech on boards" when signing up; would save this same question every week.

Yeah, or how about "I obey oh mighty one"
If you think the question is being asked too often then you should ignore it

ecksor · 11-10-2005 7:38pm

muffler wrote:

What exactly is meant here? Are you referring specifically to Q C or are you saying that free speech is not allowed generally

I didn't use the word "allow", that's not the point of it. Freedom of speech doesn't apply to this website. We can and do frequently censor / edit posts on the site for various reasons. The point is that those who claim that we shouldn't do it because it impedes their freedom of speech are mistaken in believing they had freedom of speech on here to begin with.

gandalf · 11-10-2005 7:43pm

Muppet : " Help Help I am being oppressed, what about my freedom of speech!"

Squealch !!!!!

The Jackboot of love teaches muppet about freedom of speech on boards.ie

rsynnott · 11-10-2005 9:48pm

GoneShootin wrote:

@ rsynnotTrue - but they keep us entertained and offer an outlet for our built up angst.

NOTHING will diminish my angst. NOTHING. [strike]I AM ZIM![/strike] This avatar is a bad influence.

And can we PLEASE make being terminally irritating a banning offence?

regi · 11-10-2005 10:06pm

No unions on my watch

sceptre · 11-10-2005 10:21pm

Even the Regi-bot has to have some daily shuteye downtime

regi · 11-10-2005 10:37pm

I'm currently writing a shell script to replicate thatcher's union crushing powers

Censorship on the Boards

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