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Stair width- three storey house

  • 03-09-2015 1:35pm
    #1
    ruskin
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 400 ✭✭


    Hi there,
    I'm doing up a three storey mid terrace house and taking out the old stairs. Whats the minimum width of a stairs I can get away with?


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  • #2
    Bonzo Delaney
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,577 ✭✭✭Bonzo Delaney


    Not less than 800mm clear space in a private dwelling
    Check out the up to date technical guidance docs for stairs


  • #3
    Gumbo
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 39,802 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    Technical Guidance Document Part K.
    It was slightly revised late in 2014.

    Also be aware of your other requirements with 3 storey houses including protected enclosure, fire doors, fire alarm and escapeable windows from the rooms.


  • #4
    ruskin
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 400 ✭✭ruskin


    kceire wrote: »
    Also be aware of your other requirements with 3 storey houses including protected enclosure, fire doors, fire alarm and escapeable windows from the rooms.

    Its ok, the house is just for myself and the missus.


  • #5
    Drift
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,395 ✭✭✭Drift


    No it's not ok.

    Yourself and your misses have to abide by the same rules as everyone else.

    (edit: The rules are there to keep your and your family safe - can't understand why you would want to avoid them.)


  • #6
    ruskin
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 400 ✭✭ruskin


    What I meant to say is that I'm not getting a loan for this, so no bank to answer to, theres no architect signing off, etc. and the house is not for rent, its just for myself and and the missus, so theres no need for us to be going to needless expenses to comply with senseless regulations. Thanks for advice regarding stairs everyone though, much appreciated.


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  • #7
    Drift
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,395 ✭✭✭Drift


    1. If you go to sell your house ignoring the building regulations at this point will mean a bank won't give anyone a loan to buy it.
    2. If you leave the house in your will to a family member they won't be able to sell it because you ignored the buidling regulations.

    and there's one more minor point ....

    3. If there's a fire your wife or another family member could die because you decided to ignore the building regulations.


    I'd be interested to know which part of Technical Guidance Document B you think is senseless?


  • #8
    sydthebeat
    Subscribers Posts: 41,863 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    ruskin wrote: »
    What I meant to say is that I'm not getting a loan for this, so no bank to answer to, theres no architect signing off, etc. and the house is not for rent, its just for myself and and the missus, so theres no need for us to be going to needless expenses to comply with senseless regulations. Thanks for advice regarding stairs everyone though, much appreciated.

    :rolleyes::rolleyes:

    http://insideireland.ie/2015/05/17/td-says-that-a-fire-in-which-a-man-died-at-a-house-in-stoneybatter-highlights-the-need-for-vigilance-around-fire-safety-108201/


  • #9
    JimmyMW
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 695 ✭✭✭JimmyMW


    ruskin wrote: »
    What I meant to say is that I'm not getting a loan for this, so no bank to answer to, theres no architect signing off, etc. and the house is not for rent, its just for myself and and the missus, so theres no need for us to be going to needless expenses to comply with senseless regulations. Thanks for advice regarding stairs everyone though, much appreciated.

    This attitude is completely mental, its like saying I wont bother NCT'ing my car as its only myself driving it.


  • #10
    sydthebeat
    Subscribers Posts: 41,863 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    JimmyMW wrote: »
    This attitude is completely mental, its like saying I wont bother NCT'ing my car as its only myself driving it.

    i wouldnt bother...

    that poster has previous

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=95641953&postcount=10


  • #11
    JimmyMW
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 695 ✭✭✭JimmyMW


    sydthebeat wrote: »
    i wouldnt bother...

    that poster has previous

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=95641953&postcount=10

    I see your point, its no wonder conveyancing in this country takes so long when messing like this needs to be sorted out.


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  • #12
    Calahonda52
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,595 ✭✭✭✭Calahonda52


    Time to use the ignore option, really neat, right click on posters name

    “I can’t pay my staff or mortgage with instagram likes”.



  • #13
    Gumbo
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 39,802 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    ruskin wrote: »
    Its ok, the house is just for myself and the missus.
    ruskin wrote: »
    What I meant to say is that I'm not getting a loan for this, so no bank to answer to, theres no architect signing off, etc. and the house is not for rent, its just for myself and and the missus, so theres no need for us to be going to needless expenses to comply with senseless regulations. Thanks for advice regarding stairs everyone though, much appreciated.

    Darwin Award please.

    When you go for planning for this - http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057485805 you will then have to lodge a commencement notice to building control. If they inspect, then you will have to comply with the full rigours of the building regulations, not just the ones you want to pick and choose from.

    The fire regulations are there to prevent fire spread throughout the house, so god help you if you are ever in that situation.


  • #14
    ruskin
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 400 ✭✭ruskin


    kceire wrote: »
    Darwin Award please.

    When you go for planning for this - http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057485805 you will then have to lodge a commencement notice to building control. If they inspect, then you will have to comply with the full rigours of the building regulations, not just the ones you want to pick and choose from.

    The fire regulations are there to prevent fire spread throughout the house, so god help you if you are ever in that situation.

    If if's and buts were candy and nuts...


  • #15
    BryanF
    Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 10,143 Mod ✭✭✭✭BryanF


    ruskin wrote: »
    If if's and buts were candy and nuts...

    Ruskin we obey the law and building regulations on this forum, this attitude ends now.


  • #16
    ruskin
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 400 ✭✭ruskin


    BryanF wrote: »
    Ruskin we obey the law and building regulations on this forum, this attitude ends now.

    Wow, thats me told.


  • #17
    DOCARCH
    Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 18,170 Mod ✭✭✭✭DOCARCH


    ruskin wrote: »
    Wow, thats me told.

    Indeed....


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