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People On Mars in 2023?

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  • 07-06-2012 4:35pm
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    Registered Users Posts: 4,640 ✭✭✭


    http://www.digitaltrends.com/cool-tech/mars-one-plans-human-colonization-of-mars-by-april-2023/
    While we dream about living or visiting a Martian planet, Mars One is executing the most ambitious privately funded space mission yet. The company has set a deadline for April 2023, the month that a human being will first set foot onto Mars.


    With NASA’s budget cut, privatized space travel has become the next frontier for wealthy businessmen with dreams of becoming the real-life Tony Stark. Among the dreamers, there are some that are acting out on loftier ambitions. Forget the moon; the team from the Mars One project is setting out to make the colonization of Mars a reality.

    The private Dutch company Mars One has set an ambitious deadline for the first permanent Mars colony: April 2023. For those who opt to settle on Mars, there will be no turning back. Their residence on the dusty planet would be permanent, although every two years, the established colony would welcome new residents, thereby slowly growing the Mars-based community.

    Mars One initially plans to send over four astronauts in a journey that will take a mind-numbing seven months. Come 2033, the program hopes to have over 20 astronauts living on Mars.

    If you’re skeptical about Mars One’s plans, you should be, but the project has the backing of the 1999 Physics Nobel Prize winner, Professor Dr. Gerard T Hooft, and the interest of several major privately operated commercial space corporations and suppliers that are capable of building the equipment and gear necessary to make the mission a success.

    “This is going to be private enterprise, only private firms are going to contribute. No political mumbo-jumbo, no tax-payer’s money will be involved,” Dr. Hooft said in a statement.

    The plan will begin only four years from now in 2016, when a communications satellite and a supply mission will be sent to Mars. Come 2018, a rover will be transported to Mars with the purpose of seeking an ideal location and best living condition to prepare for the permanent human settlement on the red planet. On 2020, the living capsules, supplies, life support unit and a rover tasked with reassembling the settlement components will be sent to Mars, preparing the colony for habitation. The first four astronauts will begin their journey on September 2022, landing on the planet on April of 2023.

    Mars One plans on funding the continuous mission through a media spectacle that will allow anyone to stream and monitor the progress. In other words, such a widely publicized event would be prime real estate for advertisers and sponsors.

    The aspiration is lofty, but private exploration is taking off — literally. Just last month, the privately built and launched Space X Dragon capsule was able to link with the International Space Station. Private corporations like Virgin Galactic, Space X and even Red Bull are racing to become the next household name that children will be talking about for generations to come.

    Check out Mars One’s video below and let us know in the comments below if you’d be willing to leave the comforts of Earth to spend the rest of your life on a Martian planet.
    More @ http://mars-one.com/

    So, they're planning on 4 in 2023, and to have 20 up there in 2033. I'm not going to speak on the likelihood of them making the 2023 date, but the point I will make is it seems 10 years on, maybe they ought to be hoping for more than that to be up on Mars?

    Being on another planet would be quite an experience, but being one of the early adopters, so to speak, one of those astronauts.. It'd be quite something to adapt to. Going on a one way journey somewhere, well, the precise 4 that would go up would have to be chosen. They will only have each other to "entertain" each other.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 588 ✭✭✭MisterEpicurus


    And?


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,640 ✭✭✭Pushtrak


    And?
    Oh, nothing, just a story about a walk to the park.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 683 ✭✭✭General Relativity


    And?

    And you'll be alive to see us take our first baby steps into the Universe. Count yourself among the lucky. We only learned to fly ~110 years ago.


  • Registered Users Posts: 967 ✭✭✭some random drunk


    I wonder what they would do if one of the astronauts got pregnant? Be best to send 4 gay astronauts perhaps?


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,640 ✭✭✭Pushtrak


    I wonder what they would do if one of the astronauts got pregnant? Be best to send 4 gay astronauts perhaps?
    On the contrary, I think they should plan for pregnancy and kids. This is a colonizing effort, remember. Not going to get far with 4 people who aren't going to conceive children. At some point, children will have to be born. Granted, it doesn't necessarily have to start with the first trip. But why shouldn't it?

    Edit: Obviously, some prudence and not being preggers day one would be wise.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 7,171 ✭✭✭af_thefragile


    NASA was all geared up for Moon landings, setting a moon base and a Mars mission too with the Constellation Program.

    Then Obama decided he needed more money to kill people in Iraq, Afghanistan and Pakistan and that was obviously more important than any sorta pointless space travel and hence yeah, it's gonna be a long time before we'll be going back to the moon and beyond again...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,635 ✭✭✭eth0


    pushing out children over there is cheaper than flying them over


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,640 ✭✭✭Pushtrak


    Then Obama decided he needed more money to kill people in Iraq, Afghanistan and Pakistan and that was obviously more important than any sorta pointless space travel and hence yeah, it's gonna be a long time before we'll be going back to the moon and beyond again...
    The NASA budget has been on a decline for the last 10 years. This isn't an issue new to the U.S with Obama.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Budget_of_NASA

    And when Obama got in to office, the States was in financial ruin. He was hardly going to reverse the trend, for instance.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,422 ✭✭✭✭Bruthal


    eth0 wrote: »
    pushing out children over there is cheaper than flying them over

    Saves having to listen to "are we there yet" for 7 months as well.


  • Registered Users Posts: 104 ✭✭ha ha hello


    I'd say it will be at least the 2070's before a man sets foot on mars..

    and i base that on nothing other than gut feeling, before anyone asks!


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,163 ✭✭✭yeppydeppy


    "Mind numbing seven months" - what? It used to take over 8 months to get to Australia in the days of yore. The journey isn't the problem here, it's the fact that it's a one way ticket to spend the rest of your life living in a pressurised can. No outdoors of any kind ever again, they'll go mental. Plus I can't see a private company doing this in 11.5 years - must be just marketing.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,354 ✭✭✭smellslikeshoes


    This isn't actually as far fetched as it seems, if you take out the need for getting the people back it makes things much simpler. Sure there is the issue of getting regular supplies to mars to keep people alive but that is something that can be overcome, especially if they can be self sufficient in certain areas.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,533 ✭✭✭Jester252


    Would anybody here go? I might


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,640 ✭✭✭Pushtrak


    Jester252 wrote: »
    Would anybody here go? I might
    It'll be only astronauts for quite a while, it seems. I don't think commercial plans would really be established until probably 2040 or 2050 even granting them getting their first stage part on schedule.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 588 ✭✭✭MisterEpicurus


    And you'll be alive to see us take our first baby steps into the Universe. Count yourself among the lucky. We only learned to fly ~110 years ago.

    I'm all for science, but only science that gains us knowledge. How exactly do we benefit from taking the risk of sending individuals to Mars?

    I think it's just an ego trip.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,475 ✭✭✭Dave0301


    In fairness the economy on Mars in 2023 will probably be in better shape than Ireland....

    More job opportunities too :D


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Politics Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 81,309 CMod ✭✭✭✭coffee_cake


    that is so cool


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,422 ✭✭✭✭Bruthal


    Jester252 wrote: »
    Would anybody here go? I might

    I find being stuck on the M50 for an hour bad enough, I`d say there would be plenty of takers for it though.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,640 ✭✭✭Pushtrak


    I'm all for science, but only science that gains us knowledge. How exactly do we benefit from taking the risk of sending individuals to Mars?

    I think it's just an ego trip.
    Do you not think there is any knowledge to be gained from in depth analysis of Mars? I'd have thought that it would be obvious that we'd want to know as much about other planets as possible. Also, would be great to establish telescope arrays on Mars given time. Again, something that seems obvious to me.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,475 ✭✭✭Dave0301


    I'm all for science, but only science that gains us knowledge. How exactly do we benefit from taking the risk of sending individuals to Mars?

    I think it's just an ego trip.

    The first human colonization of another planet, to see if it is possible, to see can humans survive like that. Long term it could be a first step for space exploration. I mean very long term however!!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,422 ✭✭✭✭Bruthal


    I'm all for science, but only science that gains us knowledge. How exactly do we benefit from taking the risk of sending individuals to Mars?

    I think it's just an ego trip.

    The first flight attempts must have been risky too, and possibly seemed of little benefit to many.


  • Registered Users Posts: 833 ✭✭✭southcentralts


    what a crap internet connection they will have - forget about downloading porn!


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,506 ✭✭✭shizz


    Haven't watched the video but the timeline is the thing that really stands out to me. What are they planning on using to send everything? I presume they will have to use someone else's gear and aren't planning on developing a launch and delivery system themselves?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,813 ✭✭✭clintondaly


    I bet when they do get there McDonalds will have already built a drive through and there will be an Irish lad walking towards them in his County colours


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,422 ✭✭✭✭Bruthal


    what a crap internet connection they will have - forget about downloading porn!

    They can use meteor, it will probably work better there than here.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,640 ✭✭✭Pushtrak


    shizz wrote: »
    Haven't watched the video but the timeline is the thing that really stands out to me. What are they planning on using to send everything? I presume they will have to use someone else's gear and aren't planning on developing a launch and delivery system themselves?
    They go in to that type of stuff: http://mars-one.com/mission/technology


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 683 ✭✭✭General Relativity


    I'm all for science, but only science that gains us knowledge. How exactly do we benefit from taking the risk of sending individuals to Mars?

    I think it's just an ego trip.

    This implies that there are two types of Science; one that delivers knowledge and another that ???? :confused:

    It forces us to devolop new technology to get their in the first place. This snowballs and allows us to go further and further.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 976 ✭✭✭Kev_2012


    Atheist Heli-Cats on Mars by 2038


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 588 ✭✭✭MisterEpicurus


    Pushtrak wrote: »
    Do you not think there is any knowledge to be gained from in depth analysis of Mars? I'd have thought that it would be obvious that we'd want to know as much about other planets as possible. Also, would be great to establish telescope arrays on Mars given time. Again, something that seems obvious to me.

    Of course I'm aware of these benefits, but my point is...would it not be better to have sophisticated robots perform these jobs?


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  • Administrators, Computer Games Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 32,183 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Mickeroo


    I really hope this happens in my lifetime. Once the colony is established then they can work on a some way of allowing people to travel back and forth.

    Imagine the headlines when the first martian human is born :D


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