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07-05-2012, 18:57   #106
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Why are people trying to pretend that a man who wants a marginal tax rate of 80%, wants to inflate a laughably bloated public 'service', to lower retirement age and to push back further GDP parity, is only a mild socialist?? The man's a disgrace and typical of all these jealous mean socialists who want everyone else to pay for their way of life. Sickening.

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Funny, I'm fairly sure we're all paying for the capitalists at the moment.
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Tell that to Eamon Gilmore and the Labour party who are currently in Fine Gaels pocket and who are far removed from their original ideals of Jim Larkin and Connolly.

Labour's way my ar*e...
Is Hollande in coalition with anyone?
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Funny, I'm fairly sure we're all paying for the capitalists at the moment.
No. We're all paying for the crony state capitalists at the moment, more attuned to the socialism as it employs state intervention in the economy. Thanks for reinforcing the false left-right dichotomy.

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Socialist doesn't automatically mean soviet style oppression btw.
There's some very silly hysteria over that word
Indeed. It's far from 80's militant left Labour as well, which while it makes this result significant, is far from the deal breaker some think.
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07-05-2012, 21:35   #110
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We want stability in the EU, not uncertainty. Uncertainty and a drop in confidence in the Union and its currency are not good things, no matter what some here may like to think.
Theoretically, I agree with you. And austerity may well be what is needed to bring financial stability. But only in theory.

As it will also be accompanied by political and social instability which will being the whole thing crashing down just as surely as worsening financial problems will.

100% austerity as we have now is clearly NOT the answer. Or Europe will implode.
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No. We're all paying for the crony state capitalists at the moment, more attuned to the socialism as it employs state intervention in the economy. Thanks for reinforcing the false left-right dichotomy.
Can never find a scotsman when ye need one, can ye?
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The world will remember Sarkozy as the guy, French president who took money from Gaddafi to become president of France, and then killed him. This is the new history of France.
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Can never find a scotsman when ye need one, can ye?
I know of one, Adam Smith. He's dead a couple of hundred years, unfortunately.
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Tell that to Eamon Gilmore and the Labour party who are currently in Fine Gaels pocket and who are far removed from their original ideals of Jim Larkin and Connolly.

Labour's way my ar*e...

Was the "great" Eamon in Paris last night to support Sarko??
would love to see the look on his ugly face when the result came through.
might even try to align himself to Hollande now. can claim that he once shared the same ideals. If the cap fits,wear it Eamon
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Tell that to Eamon Gilmore and the Labour party who are currently in Fine Gaels pocket and who are far removed from their original ideals of Jim Larkin and Connolly.

Labour's way my ar*e...

Was the "great" Eamon in Paris last night to support Sarko??
would love to see the look on his ugly face when the result came through.
might even try to align himself to Hollande now. can claim that he once shared the same ideals. If the cap fits,wear it Eamon
He certainly wasn't supporting Sarkozy as Labour are a sister party of the socialist party in France.
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Goodbye nicolas. :-*
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