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Openstreetmap - Mapping Galway City

  • 22-04-2012 8:53pm
    #1
    [Deleted User]
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    tl;dr - Looking for help in mapping all of Galway City on www.openstreetmap.org

    This is going be a longer than normal post but please bear with me, I've even included pics to give an at a glance overview of the purpose of this thread.

    At present Galway City has some of the highest resoloution satellite imagery in Ireland however its likely that we will be losing that soon as new imagery is rolled out for all of Ireland.

    I am working my way around Galway city mapping as much of it as possible at the moment. I have done many hours of driving around getting traces and making notes of road names, estate names and locations of businesses etc.

    However, this is a big job so its taking time. To give an illustration of what I am doing see the images below of Merlin Park Hospital which was originally mapped by someone else to show the general road layout

    201674.jpg
    Image #1 - Original Merlin Park layout

    201676.jpg
    Image # 2 - Added missing roads, footpaths and 2 sports fields


    201678.jpg
    Image # 3 - Add outline of all buildings. Green bit on the right is tennis courts, who knew they were ever there :confused:

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    Image # 4 - Added outline for all parking in the hospital

    201684.jpg
    Image # 5 - 90% complete with all green areas marked out, trees, shrubs, walls, hedges etc

    If you go to www.openstreetmap.org the above is what you will see

    Now, to the purpose of the post. I've gone almost as far as I can go with this. The rest now needs someone who works in Merlin Park. What I'd like is to be able to identify each and every building. This is where OSM comes into its own. the level of detail can get to very accurate levels but only if it comes from people with the general knowledge.

    Is there anyone here on boards that can identify the buildings above? I know there's a "Hospital 1" and so on, but havent a clue whats what.

    To see other examples of what I have been doing, follow the Dublin road in as far as the Huntsman on OSM, everything in Renmore, I completed over the last 2 weeks or so. Newcastle / Rahoon, I did back in Jan.

    I am hoping to have all of Galway done by the end of the summer before the high res imagery is lost but its the details I need help with. :(

    If I have sparked interest from anyone, getting started is actually very easy and I would gladly help anyone starting out, just PM me.


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  • #2
    Sponge Bob
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    Mackerski did a lot of it in recent years. Getting to the stage where mapping buildings and paths and facilities is the next requirement. Meanwhile the county is a tad bare.


  • #3
    [Deleted User]
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    aye I know. Im living out in East Galway, about 30 mins outside Galway. I've done a lot of mapping on local roads but gave up in the end. What I spend 4 hours driving around mapping, I can do in 60 mins when the new imagery becomes available.

    Don't worry, once the new imagery is available I'll be posting a thread on the Galway County board ;)


  • #4
    dloob
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,831 ✭✭✭dloob


    Nice work on Renmore. I noticed a few weeks ago it was missing all the street names.
    I was going to add them myself but they went and had their read only maintenance period.


  • #5
    Lapin
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    Excellent work.

    One quibble - Is it really neccessary to have the letter P denoting parking repeated so many times in such close proximity in certain places ?

    It gives the map a distracting appearance it doesn't really need, and leaves it looking overcooked.
    Merlin Park Hospital and Mervue Industrial Estate are particularly blighted.
    Especially as the yellow shaded areas are set out as parking anyway.

    One or two P icons is enough to illustrate that parking facilities are available in any given institution.

    Dunnes and Tesco on the Headford Rd are perfect examples of where you have achived this.

    Just my bit of constructive crit. Well done again, and continued good luck with it.


  • #6
    [Deleted User]
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    I noticed that alright. I'll look into it

    The reason Tesco / Dunnes look better is they have their parking in one lump.

    Mervue & Merlin's parking is spread out all over, hence all the P's as each shows the parking designation.

    I'll see if I can tidy it up tomorrow, bed time now


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  • #7
    antoobrien
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,106 ✭✭✭antoobrien


    The information for Merlin Park is available on the HSE website. There's also a map (pdf) that tells you which unit is where (but not what each one does). The fucntions of the units are usually on a name plate, whcih you can see from the road. If you want to save yourself a trip out use google maps (ward = unit in merlin park)

    It might be worth asking for help/advice the GPS forum on how best to map the rest of town.


  • #8
    JohnCleary
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    antoobrien wrote: »
    (ward = unit in merlin park)

    NOT TRUE

    Unit = Unit. Individual buildings scattered round the hospital

    There are Wards in the main Hospital block, used in the traditional sense, to identify different wings on different floors


  • #9
    antoobrien
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,106 ✭✭✭antoobrien


    JohnCleary wrote: »
    NOT TRUE

    Why is it that those who are WRONG shout loudest?

    Merlin Park is set out in units, which given that it was a TB isolation hospital makes sense.

    Here's the "Ward Listing" from the HSE website (I was in unit 4 on a couple of occasions myself years ago)

    Merlin Park University Hospital
    (091) 524222 Direct Telephone Numbers
    Unit 1 (Medical Outpatients/Infusion Service /CAPD) (091) xx
    Unit 2 (Orthopaedics/Surgical Out-patients) (091) xx
    Unit 3 (Podiatry) (091) xx
    Unit 4 (091) xx
    Unit 5 (091) xx
    Unit 6 (091) xx
    Unit 7 (091) xx
    Unit 8 (091) xx
    Hospital Ground (Nephrology/Rheumatology/Medicine) (091) xx
    Hospital 1 (Respiratory/Medicine) (091) xx
    Hospital 2 (Orthopaedics) (091) xx
    Special Care (091) xx

    Don't see any wards there.


  • #10
    JohnCleary
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,209 ✭✭✭✭JohnCleary


    How was I wrong? You stated that Units = Wards, which is completely un-true.

    When I was a patient in Merlin, I was in Hospital 2 Day Hall, which was at the end of x Ward - they have obviously changed that in the past few years. Either that or I was giving wrong directions to visitors :pac:

    You say 'Here is a listing of the HSE Wards'. Incorrect (read the website again), it clearly says 'Wards & Units'

    DaCor - Great idea, well done. I'm partial to the odd mapping project myself. What info exactly are you looking for? Names of the buildings? I know most of them off my head, if you PM me your email i'll screenshot the map and write the names of the buildings. Some of the buildings have multiple uses ie. Admin/Finance/Kitchen are all one building.

    I agree about the Parking being a bit too intrusive on the map. Also, some of the P labels are making staff car parks. and could potentially block work areas (up around Maintenance) so wouldn't suggest parking there


  • #11
    fergiesfolly
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    Op. Quick question. Why are we losing the hd imagery of the city we have now?


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  • #12
    antoobrien
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,106 ✭✭✭antoobrien


    JohnCleary wrote: »
    How was I wrong? You stated that Units = Wards, which is completely un-true.

    So if you are going to, oh say dialysis (when it was in merlin) were you directed to unit 7 or the ward?

    It was unit 7 - not the ward.


  • #13
    JohnCleary
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    antoobrien wrote: »
    So if you are going to, oh say dialysis (when it was in merlin) were you directed to unit 7 or the ward?

    It was unit 7 - not the ward.

    You were directed to Unit 7, because that's what it is called. A ward is a corridor in a building, Units are individual, isolated buildings

    Ward != Unit, simple as. If you said to someone 'Go to Ward 7' in Merlin, it would make no sense. But by your logic 'unit' and 'ward' are the same thing.

    Stop ruining a perfectly good thread with petty internet arguing - e-mail me at [email]xxxxx[/email] if you want to continue it in private

    -EDIT- It was a fake e-mail biko :pac: 'loopback.com' - seriously?! :p


  • #14
    biko
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    Anto and John infracted for fighting. You both are here long enough to know it's not on.
    You should also already know that no phone numbers nor mails are allowed.

    Back on topic, sorry can't help you there OP. I've only been there once.


  • #15
    Sponge Bob
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    At present Galway City has some of the highest resoloution satellite imagery in Ireland however its likely that we will be losing that soon as new imagery is rolled out for all of Ireland.

    The Current Bing Imagery ( certainly in the Potlatch editor) is shifted eastwards in Galway by perhaps 10m off true. Not a big issue for driving but certainly one that affects accuracy in mapping buildings and urban paths etc were one to attempt an outline trace off it as is permitted.

    I do see that where off image tracing is _possible_ a lot more details are present on OSM between Barna and Oranmore.

    But where did you hear about 'new' Bing imagery for Ireland or indeed its resolution. ???

    [EDIT] Sorry, it was announced LAST April :)

    http://searchengineland.com/bing-maps-game-changer-hi-res-aerial-imagery-coming-to-entire-us-and-western-europe-75159
    It’s called the Global Ortho Project and the goal is to provide consistent, high resolution (30 cms) imagery across every square inch of the United States and Western Europe by June, 2012. Some major cities and landmarks (like Cowboys Stadium above) already have hi-res imagery but, as any experienced online map user can tell you, the photos often get much worse in smaller towns and cities.

    That looks like an UPGRADE to me :)

    http://www.forbes.com/sites/quentinhardy/2011/04/27/bing-maps-aerial-victory/
    To do it, Microsoft developed its own highly efficient camera, and mounted it in several planes that were also loaded with 13 PCs for image processing. It then flew the planes north/south (for light standardization), in lines about eight kilometers apart, at 17,000 feet, shooting 220 megapixels every 2 seconds.

    They’ve been quietly rolling much of this into Bing Maps for several months, and about 25% of the total is up, with more coming on every day. Total miles flown: about 730,000. Cost: about $130 million.


  • #16
    antoobrien
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,106 ✭✭✭antoobrien


    JohnCleary wrote: »
    Stop ruining a perfectly good thread with petty internet arguing - e-mail me at [email]xxxxx[/email] if you want to continue it in private

    I'm correcting a misconception that you are spreading about the layout of the hospital (due to the disbursed nature of the facilities). If you want to take that as fighting that's your problem.

    FTR I'm pming biko about because I think the infractions are unfair (statement, not an invitation to discussion).


  • #17
    antoobrien
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    biko wrote: »
    Anto and John infracted for fighting. You both are here long enough to know it's not on.
    You should also already know that no phone numbers nor mails are allowed.

    Back on topic, sorry can't help you there OP. I've only been there once.

    Sorry about the phone numbers, didn't notice them when I copied the text.


  • #18
    antoobrien
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    Is there anyone here on boards that can identify the buildings above?

    Here's a start - I've filled in the buildings I can remember & the ones I can identify from the map.

    The main hospital building is the largest building (in the center of the map directly above unit 8)


  • #19
    Sponge Bob
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    Register with Openstreetmap
    Log in , click Edit when you have zoomed onto Merlin...it will launch the Potlatch V2 Editor ( default)
    Select Wireframe view from right upper menu.
    Select Building outline.
    Insert Name on left.
    Repeat for other buildings.
    Click save.
    Sorted. :)


  • #20
    KevR
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    I see there is still a roundabout at Briarhill (Lynch roundabout). I must get around to updating it..


  • #21
    [Deleted User]
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    antoobrien wrote: »
    The information for Merlin Park is available on the HSE website. There's also a map (pdf) that tells you which unit is where (but not what each one does). The fucntions of the units are usually on a name plate, whcih you can see from the road. If you want to save yourself a trip out use google maps (ward = unit in merlin park)

    cheers for that, hadn't thought of looking on the HSE site for info.

    With regards to pulling info from Google maps, thats a big no-no. Their information is copyrighted. Its one of the 2 rules for OSM:
    1. Don't copy from other maps
    2. Have fun!
    JohnCleary wrote: »
    DaCor - Great idea, well done. I'm partial to the odd mapping project myself. What info exactly are you looking for? Names of the buildings? I know most of them off my head, if you PM me your email i'll screenshot the map and write the names of the buildings. Some of the buildings have multiple uses ie. Admin/Finance/Kitchen are all one building.

    I agree about the Parking being a bit too intrusive on the map. Also, some of the P labels are making staff car parks. and could potentially block work areas (up around Maintenance) so wouldn't suggest parking there

    John - I'm looking for any information which will improve the map, names of buildings, purpose of the buildings, the main enterances etc. Anything can be mapped :)

    I'll sort out the parking in Merlin tonight, should look better in an hour :)
    antoobrien wrote: »
    Here's a start - I've filled in the buildings I can remember & the ones I can identify from the map.

    The main hospital building is the largest building (in the center of the map directly above unit 8)

    awesome! thank you
    Lapin wrote:
    Excellent work.

    One quibble - Is it really neccessary to have the letter P denoting parking repeated so many times in such close proximity in certain places ?

    It gives the map a distracting appearance it doesn't really need, and leaves it looking overcooked.
    Merlin Park Hospital and Mervue Industrial Estate are particularly blighted.
    Especially as the yellow shaded areas are set out as parking anyway.

    One or two P icons is enough to illustrate that parking facilities are available in any given institution.

    Dunnes and Tesco on the Headford Rd are perfect examples of where you have achived this.

    Just my bit of constructive crit. Well done again, and continued good luck with it.

    Check out Mervue Ind estate now, should look much better. You may have to ctrl+f5 to force refresh your view

    If anyone is interested, I'm working my way across Wellpark/Ballybane this evening, hope to map out the major components tonight. You can view progress by refreshing that area of the map every 30 mins or so :)

    For anyone interested in giving this a go, head over to www.openstreetmap.org and sign up. Start out using potlatch (the editor you can access from directly inside the site). Once you have the hang of it, move on to JOSM which is way more powerful and easier to use in the long run

    If you need some real-time help to get you started there's usually ppl online in the irish osm-ie irc channel who'd be more than happy to help.

    use this link to connect to irc channel via your web browser


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  • #22
    Lapin
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    Deleted User wrote: »



    Check out Mervue Ind estate now, should look much better.

    Looking good indeed !

    A lot tidier.

    Keep up the good work.


  • #23
    Mrs OBumble
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    KevR wrote: »
    I see there is still a roundabout at Briarhill (Lynch roundabout). I must get around to updating it..

    Ahh, yeah, and people wonder why I haven't used OpenStreetMaps ...

    OP, a thought: maybe stick to Unit names, rather than specific wards or departments. The department that is in a building is likely to change more often than the unit name (esp when they're so very meaningful :) ), and if you want your info to be valid for a long time, it's often best to stick to "longevious" details and leave out the rest.


  • #24
    [Deleted User]
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    JustMary wrote: »
    Ahh, yeah, and people wonder why I haven't used OpenStreetMaps ...

    OP, a thought: maybe stick to Unit names, rather than specific wards or departments. The department that is in a building is likely to change more often than the unit name (esp when they're so very meaningful :) ), and if you want your info to be valid for a long time, it's often best to stick to "longevious" details and leave out the rest.

    probably right about the unit no's

    JM, I am curious as to why you haven't used it. The example given, the Briarhill RAB, will be sorted by tomorrow by KevR or myself. Google will be months behind. Not picking, just curious


  • #25
    antoobrien
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,106 ✭✭✭antoobrien


    Deleted User wrote: »
    With regards to pulling info from Google maps, thats a big no-no. Their information is copyrighted.

    I didn't mean to suggest that, so I'll clarify what I meant. If you use the street view mode, you can see the information written on the walls of the buildings. There shouldn't be any issue with that.


  • #26
    the keen edge
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    At the risk of appearing ignorant, what is the deal with this project.

    Not that I don't approve, is it there to challenge the hold of private companies i.e. google maps.

    I may contribute myself. Would doing so devour my broadband data limit?


  • #27
    antoobrien
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,106 ✭✭✭antoobrien


    the keen edge wrote: »
    At the risk of appearing ignorant, what is the deal with this project.

    Not that I don't approve, is it there to challenge the hold of private companies i.e. google maps.

    I may contribute myself. Would doing so devour my broadband data limit?

    The "deal" with http://www.openstreetmap.org/ (and the http://openrouteservice.org/) is to provide a free & open source alternative to the likes of google maps et al. This provides a safe harbour in case google et al decide to monetize or limit the mapping services.

    For more take a look at the websites in question.

    The problem is that they are dependent on user mapping, so coverage of some areas is spotty.


  • #28
    Sponge Bob
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    Great android app named osmtracker if you wish to help


  • #29
    the keen edge
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    Sponge Bob wrote: »
    Great android app named osmtracker if you wish to help

    I'd love to but my auld Nokia 1616 doesn't support android:D


  • #30
    [Deleted User]
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    there are some app's for Nokia that you can use from what I recall however from what I can see the Nokia 161 doesnt have GPS :o

    That wont stop you adding to the map though, you can always map based on the imagery currently available and add information where you know it (points of interest, shops, factories, schools etc etc)
    I didn't mean to suggest that, so I'll clarify what I meant. If you use the street view mode, you can see the information written on the walls of the buildings. There shouldn't be any issue with that.

    It has never been stated either way by Google whether its ok to use without copyright enforcement so I prefer to err on the side of caution ;)


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  • #31
    Mrs OBumble
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    JM, I am curious as to why you haven't used it. The example given, the Briarhill RAB, will be sorted by tomorrow by KevR or myself. Google will be months behind. Not picking, just curious

    Antobrien said it all "The problem is that they are dependent on user mapping, so coverage of some areas is spotty."

    Google may be slow (when I started in 2009, I had to draw in the Corrib by hand!) but it does get there. I don't have a car, and didn't have a GPS (do now, 'cos of that android app that was just recommended), but relying on Joe Public would worry me too much.


  • #32
    [Deleted User]
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    I'll defiantly concede that coverage can be spotty due to lack of contributors on the ground, however where resources (free imagery, out-of-copyright maps, local knowledge) are available a huge amount of mapping has been done.

    One example I love to use as an example is the Cavan area. If you look you can see where the satellite imagery ends and the massive difference between the two areas.

    OSM will always be a work in progress. Take my efforts for Galway. I plan on having the major elements mapped out before the end of the summer but where I want to get to is something along the lines of Clacton-on-Sea in England or, well, basically anywhere in Germany, Poland, Holland etc where OSM has overtaken all other maps in terms of detail and accuracy.

    Long way to go, but its a hobby and if my hobby can benefit others, all the better :)


  • #33
    Sponge Bob
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    But in the UK the Ordnance Survey gave OSM quite alot of data to start with whereas here the Ordnance Survey didn't.

    Once the high res Bing imagery appears inside the editor then tracing will be a doddle.

    To ad your bit of Galway now ...simply register and have a look at the editor.


  • #34
    antoobrien
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,106 ✭✭✭antoobrien


    Sponge Bob wrote: »
    To ad your bit of Galway now ...simply register and have a look at the editor.


    Actually any OpenID compliant account will work, so if you have a gmail/google account (required for android) you can just login and get started.


  • #35
    [Deleted User]
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    Took a drive up to Merlin Park today after work and it was worth it. there's a whole new building up there.

    I've updated the map to remove all but the main parking areas, should look a bit neater. Also, got all the details for all the buildings up there, including some that were on a side road that i hadn't noticed.

    Anyway, you can now see the updated layout here


  • #36
    Shakti
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    Thanks thats actually really helpful I'm there tomorrow


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  • #37
    antoobrien
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    I am working my way around Galway city mapping as much of it as possible at the moment. I have done many hours of driving around getting traces and making notes of road names, estate names and locations of businesses etc.

    Any requests as to areas. I'm home this weekend and might be able to help some with the eastern half of town.

    Edit - I've started adding stuff in Mervue/Ballybane/Ballybrit from memory.


  • #38
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    thats great. Yeah, any bits you can add, like the details of businesses etc, would be great as there's still lots I miss when I'm driving around


  • #39
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    I'm taking a break for 2 weeks due to end of year exams, however just an update for anyone that is interested

    Mervue, Renmore, Murrough, Merlin, Riverside and the west side of Ballybane road done for all residential areas.

    Also, the following commercial areas are now on the map in detail (might have been there previously, just lacking detail)
    Ballybane Ind Est
    Ballybrit Ind Est
    Glenrock Business Park
    City East Business Park
    Upper Ballybrit Ind est
    Oldenway Business Park
    Liosbaun Ind Est
    Sandy road Ind Est

    If anyone works in any of those, I would appreciate any help in tagging the businesses in those areas. You can even use Walking Papers which will make it easiesr, or even easier still, mark it on walking papers and email me the scans and I'll make the updates to www.openstreetmap.org for you.

    At this stage East of the Corrib is about 50% done.

    You can see the current state here


  • #40
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    Hey folks, back after the exams.

    Just a quick update on where this is at.

    I've added a wiki page to the OSM wiki for tracking the progress of Galway for anyone who is interested. There you will be able to see my particular approach and the items I am going after. Anyone can edit that page and add their own details if you so wish.

    Since I've been away I've spotted several new people mapping around Galway, awesome to see. Don't be shy, once you get started you'll see it's insanely easy.

    In terms of housing estates this is the current progress:
    • Mervue - Complete
    • Riverside - Complete
    • Rahoon - Complete
    • Merlin Park - Complete
    • Wellpark - Complete
    • Knocknacarra - Complete - Check out this area as an example
    • Newcastle - 90% Complete
    • Bohermore - 40% Complete
    • Ballybane - 60% Complete
    • Ballybrit - 50% Complete
    • Shantalla - 30% Complete
    • Terryland - 50% Complete
    • Claddagh - 30% Complete
    • Salthill - 60% Complete
    • Bushypark - 90% Complete
    • Dangan - 90% Complete
    • Doughiska - 50% Complete
    • Roscam - 50% Complete
    • Menlo - 40% Complete

    As of last night I have traced every single housing estate in Galway bar the few around Bohermore, probably end up doing those on the bike as it'll be easier with traffic.

    I've also gone around every business and industrial park I could find and gotten the names and locations of all the businesses and factories etc that I could find

    What the above 2 bits mean is, I have the information needed for the above, just need to get it added to the map.

    Lastly, I have started tracing the buildings in the city center and adding details where I know them, mostly around Eyre Square so far.

    I've been thinking of maybe doing one or two informal classes if anyone is interested. It would be free of charge and likely on a weekend or an evening midweek, depending on what suits people, I'm easy either way.

    What I would love to get is 5-10 people to do a mapping party in a month or two where we could blitz all of Galway city center in 1 day to record every shop, office, historical location, cafe, wifi spot etc etc

    Anyway, if anyone is interested just say so


  • #41
    jkforde
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    just downloaded this OSM editor app for Android, it's working very well so far & once logged in any changes are easily uploaded :)

    OSMapTuner, from here: http://osmaptuner.salzburgresearch.at

    🌦️ 6.7kwp, 45°, SSW, mid-Galway 🌦️

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  • #42
    [Deleted User]
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    Same, I got in 2 weeks ago to try it out, way easier to use than vespucci but still more difficult than on a PC/laptop :(

    On a plus note, since I started this thread there's been a burst of activity in Galway on OSM

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  • #43
    civis_liberalis
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,772 ✭✭✭civis_liberalis


    Just a quick note to thank the guys that are working on this and DaCor specifically, because I had to go down to Merlin Park Hosp. today and was in a hurry (nothing serious) and wouldn't have had a clue where I was going only for I remembered that DaCor mapped it out.

    Thanks a million.

    I helped out a small bit, with other places, but I don't really want to be adding stuff unless I'm 100% certain of it.


  • #44
    Sponge Bob
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    The Bing High res imagery that we can trace off was promised for June 2012. Patience. :)


  • #45
    civis_liberalis
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,772 ✭✭✭civis_liberalis


    Sponge Bob wrote: »
    The Bing High res imagery that we can trace off was promised for June 2012. Patience. :)

    What sort of coverage would the Bing imagery have? Is it the existing ones that are live on Bing now? They stop in Furbo, which is disappointing.


  • #46
    Sponge Bob
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    The existing ones seem out by a few metres and tracing off them can be inaccurate, no matter for boreens and trails but for buildings ???

    The new aerials will be high res aerial ( not satellite) and substantially better than the c 7 year old imagery that is there now as it was done since early 2011. Promised by end June by Microsoft.


  • #47
    IrlJidel
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 412 ✭✭IrlJidel


    civis_liberalis wrote: »
    What sort of coverage would the Bing imagery have? Is it the existing ones that are live on Bing now? They stop in Furbo, which is disappointing.

    You can see current Bing imagery coverage here:

    http://ant.dev.openstreetmap.org/bingimageanalyzer/?lat=53.12626511169192&lon=-7.051084605974656&zoom=8

    The big blocks in the Midlands. Wexford and Belfast are the newer 30cm imagery part of Bing's/DigitalGlobe's GlobalOrtho (now renamed to Precision Aerial) project. Project was initially slated to be complete in US and Western Europe end of June 2012.

    I don't think they'll get there in time - they still have substantial areas in Ireland to acquire.

    Apollo mapping have a monthly newsletter which gives a monthly report on their progress:

    http://www.apollomapping.com/2012/June/article10.html

    Hopefully in next month or two we'll see some updates re Ireland.

    D


  • #48
    Sponge Bob
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    Seemingly they "Have" West Galway inc City and most of Mayo and will have the rest this year. Bottom of Irljidels link. They got Wexford up fairly sharpish ( less than 2 months I think it took and Wexford Boards users narrowed down the time and date because of schools and churches etc to within an hour. )

    DG%20Aerial%20-%20Europe%20Coverage%20Map%20-%205-25-2012.jpg


  • #49
    ladhrann
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 445 ✭✭ladhrann


    Deleted User wrote: »

    At present Galway City has some of the highest resoloution satellite imagery in Ireland however its likely that we will be losing that soon as new imagery is rolled out for all of Ireland.

    This is a great idea and I commend you for your dedication to the it. Do we know why the correct images will be lost/removed?

    Also is there any stock or archive of older images of streetviews with dates in Galway City? It would be aprticularly useful in tracking unauthorised developments etc. in the town and I would greatly appreciate any pointers for this.

    Unfortunately my own 'broadband' is so poor I cannot use any software like you mention. Even boards takes an age to load.


  • #50
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    civis_liberalis wrote: »
    Just a quick note to thank the guys that are working on this and DaCor specifically, because I had to go down to Merlin Park Hosp. today and was in a hurry (nothing serious) and wouldn't have had a clue where I was going only for I remembered that DaCor mapped it out.

    Thanks a million.

    I helped out a small bit, with other places, but I don't really want to be adding stuff unless I'm 100% certain of it.

    Glad to help. Since I started this thread 20 or more people have also contributed to the map for Galway and its surroundings.

    I haven't gotten much done over the last month due to work kicking my ass, but one bit that I did may be of use to others here, its details for UCHG.

    Fair play to you for adding info, the more the merrier. I've done a serious amount for Galway, but most of that is what I like to think of as "the structure". The fine detail comes from the "crowd sourcing" aspect so anything you (or anyone else) can add is useful.

    Adding details like school's, post boxes, church names and denominations, hiking trails, cycle lanes etc etc is what makes OSM powerful. Because all the data is open and fully configurable, if you wanted, you could create a map of the world showing only the locations of clothes shops in Ireland, Hosptials in Europe, Campsites that allow caravans etc etc.
    ladhrann wrote: »
    This is a great idea and I commend you for your dedication to the it. Do we know why the correct images will be lost/removed?

    Also is there any stock or archive of older images of streetviews with dates in Galway City? It would be aprticularly useful in tracking unauthorised developments etc. in the town and I would greatly appreciate any pointers for this.

    Unfortunately my own 'broadband' is so poor I cannot use any software like you mention. Even boards takes an age to load.

    With regards to losing the current imagery, see here

    Older imagery of streetview level, sorry I cant help you. I'm sure some is around, just dont have a clue where it would be.

    As for you connection, if you use something like JOSM you can do an inital download of an area, work on it to your hearts content for a day or two and then upload. We are talking kb's here, not mb's or gb's so even on dial up a changset with 1,000 modifications wouldnt be more than 2-3 mins on a dial up connection, likely less

    To give an example of the possibilities with OSM, please see examples from ITOworld

    - Galway Schools
    - Golf courses in Galway City & its environs
    - Sport & recreational facilities in Galway
    - Speed limits in Galway City & County

    Anyway, you get the idea. Every link I posted shows an incomplete set of information btw ;)

    If you need some real-time help to get you started there's usually ppl online in the irish osm-ie irc channel who'd be more than happy to help.

    use this link to connect to irc channel via your web browser


  • #51
    civis_liberalis
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,772 ✭✭✭civis_liberalis


    use this link to connect to irc channel via your web browser

    I've never seen anybody online there ever... haha


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