RTE Documentry Rescue 117

Beeker · 10-09-2010 10:53am #1

Sorry if this has been mentioned before but new documentry starting on RTE 1 next Tuesday night Sept 14 at 20:30 on the Waterford based Search and rescue helicopter Rescue 117. Looks interesting on for 6 weeks.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_N3GJGy6iz8

Manic Moran · 13-09-2010 5:21am

I can never keep up with the IAC/ICG/CHC relationship. Last I had heard, ICG had given the rescue mission to CHC under contract. This has apparently changed back again?

NTM

Klunk001 · 13-09-2010 10:45am

No,all four helo bases at the mo provide SAR for the IRCG under a contract with CHC until mid 2013. The next contract kicks off mid 2013 for 10 years, with new technology between IRCG/CHC.

punchdrunk · 13-09-2010 1:50pm

can't wait for this!

vulcan57 · 14-09-2010 8:59pm

Excellent first programme, really good to see the Irish SAR on TV.

abbyw1989 · 14-09-2010 10:08pm

I missed it! Anyone know if it's repeated/available online?

cyrusdvirus · 14-09-2010 10:41pm

Just watching it in the Sky box..... Capt Dara is Hawt!!!!!

Sorry for going o.t. Mods!!

donkey balls · 14-09-2010 11:27pm

abbyw1989 wrote: »

I missed it! Anyone know if it's repeated/available online?

should be able to catch it on rte player

abbyw1989 · 15-09-2010 12:11am

donkey balls wrote: »

should be able to catch it on rte player

Can't see it on there, but thanks anyway

donkey balls · 15-09-2010 12:16am

abbyw1989 wrote: »

Can't see it on there, but thanks anyway

they normally have it up within 24hrs of the program been broadcast, i managed to watch free fall this morning and that was shown monday night.

Manic Moran · 15-09-2010 7:10am

Klunk001 wrote: »

No,all four helo bases at the mo provide SAR for the IRCG under a contract with CHC until mid 2013. The next contract kicks off mid 2013 for 10 years, with new technology between IRCG/CHC.

The uniforms and helos say 'Coast Guard' on them, so I presume the personnel and S-61s are not contracted. Is the contract just for the support and sustainment facilities?

NTM

Beeker · 15-09-2010 7:35am

Manic Moran wrote: »

The uniforms and helos say 'Coast Guard' on them, so I presume the personnel and S-61s are not contracted. Is the contract just for the support and sustainment facilities?

NTM

No crew and helis are contracted. They belong to CHC but they wear the coast guard name on uniforms and on the vehicles.

Silent Death · 15-09-2010 8:12am

My dad was the one who got this going for the ICG, we have the next few episodes here, they get much much better as they go on, oh and gatecrash, i now Dara

Oh and your right they do contract out the work but they are responsible to the ICG for the duration of the contract.

petergfiffin · 15-09-2010 8:21am

I generally like these programmes and this was no exception although one thing I found v annoying is the amount of repitition in the voice over, after the ad break we basically get the first 2 minutes of the introduction all over again, not unique to this programme but I think somehow most of us can remember what happened 15 minutes earlier!! (well most of the time anyway

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Would have been interested to hear more about how Dara became a SAR pilot because I got the impression it wasn't through the military route.

cyrusdvirus · 15-09-2010 8:54am

petergfiffin wrote: »

Would have been interested to hear more about how Dara became a SAR pilot because I got the impression it wasn't through the military route.

it's on for another 5 weeks... maybe they might go into that.

Beeker · 15-09-2010 9:21am

petergfiffin wrote: »

Would have been interested to hear more about how Dara became a SAR pilot because I got the impression it wasn't through the military route.

Interesting clip here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btjZ8MhmhuU

testicle · 15-09-2010 11:06am

Manic Moran wrote: »

The uniforms and helos say 'Coast Guard' on them, so I presume the personnel and S-61s are not contracted. Is the contract just for the support and sustainment facilities?

NTM

Our Coast Guard isn't the same as yours!

xflyer · 15-09-2010 5:15pm

The Coastguard is a mostly volunteer force. Some might argue the Naval service might be better off constituted as the Coastguard. But that's for another day.

There are several SAR pilots who didn't come down the military route. But often they are recruited through the North sea and other oil rig flying overseas. Clearly though many are ex military not least because that's where the best training is to be found. It's not a job for newly trained young pilot as they fly very few hours a year, maybe 250-300. There's a lot of sitting around.

Silent Death · 15-09-2010 5:57pm

xflyer wrote: »

The Coastguard is a mostly volunteer force. Some might argue the Naval service might be better off constituted as the Coastguard. But that's for another day.

Navy isn't big enough to do the job to the same standard. It also wont have the same response time as the Coast Guard. Having it as a separate, non military force makes sense unless you give the Coast Guard the patrolling duties the Navy does and combine them, if you do that you might as well disband the Air-core, it is a lame duck that takes in a huge budget each year. Without the Volunteers the Coast Guard work, In Ireland we have one of the best Coast Guards in the world, only countries with large budgets beat us but even then they can have awful ideas such as their rescue swimmers....

Any way thats my 2 cents

andy_g · 15-09-2010 6:43pm

Silent Death wrote: »

Navy isn't big enough to do the job to the same standard. It also wont have the same response time as the Coast Guard. Having it as a separate, non military force makes sense unless you give the Coast Guard the patrolling duties the Navy does and combine them, if you do that you might as well disband the Air-core, it is a lame duck that takes in a huge budget each year. Without the Volunteers the Coast Guard work, In Ireland we have one of the best Coast Guards in the world, only countries with large budgets beat us but even then they can have awful ideas such as their rescue swimmers....

Any way thats my 2 cents

My god an airsofter that makes sense

welcom to the aviation forum man

Silent Death · 15-09-2010 8:28pm

andy_g wrote: »

My god an airsofter that makes sense welcome to the aviation forum man

My Dad is in the Coast Guard, i have experience with it, said i would see if his little project got any notice, he had a look at the posts, he has a big grin on his face. Love to train to be on the winch but i need to get to a Paramedic level...

andy_g · 15-09-2010 11:00pm

Silent Death wrote: »

My Dad is in the Coast Guard, i have experience with it, said i would see if his little project got any notice, he had a look at the posts, he has a big grin on his face. Love to train to be on the winch but i need to get to a Paramedic level...

O/T for a min. join the local order of malta brigade and start off first aider/first resonder and so on.

Now back on topic i missed it

nag · 16-09-2010 5:27pm

http://www.rte.ie/player/#v=1080452

cyrusdvirus · 22-09-2010 7:50am

Just beginning to wonder, and not being morbid here, but roughly how many missions result in recovery of a body rather than bringing someone home to their family alive and kicking?

Last nights ep featured 3 rescues, all successful.
Last week was the light plane down off Tuskar rock rescue, (successful) and a search for a body (unsuccessful)

As an aside i like the interaction between the crews, (the comments between Capts Fitzpatrick & McDonagh last night) and the good natured slagging that seems to go on.. I'm sure some of it is put on for the cameras but it gives an indication of a close knit team all the same.

Storm 10 · 22-09-2010 12:35pm

Last night RTE before they showed the film they gave a warning that some viewers may find the scenes distressing, I did not see anything distressing about what they showed, I was expecting to see worse.

Why give a warning when there is nothing distressing for viewers to see is it all hype??

oglaigh · 22-09-2010 3:55pm

Storm 10 wrote: »

Last night RTE before they showed the film they gave a warning that some viewers may find the scenes distressing, I did not see anything distressing about what they showed, I was expecting to see worse.

Why give a warning when there is nothing distressing for viewers to see is it all hype??

What you were expecting a show sponsored by ogrish or something??
The first episode they showed a search for a body. I had a relative kill themselves by jumping from a cliff who's body was found by the coastguard and RNLI. Now I wasnt upset so to speak by the footage last week but it certainly brought back memories of the night he died so I can see how some people could find those scenes distressing.

Manic Moran · 24-09-2010 6:13am

Beeker wrote: »

No crew and helis are contracted. They belong to CHC but they wear the coast guard name on uniforms and on the vehicles.

I'd consider that a little... odd.

Do the contractors who work with the gardai wear 'Garda' name plates?

CHC have a contract to fly US military around Afghanistan, I used their flights quite often. No 'US Army' markings on them.

NTM

Trotter · 24-09-2010 8:31am

Manic Moran wrote: »

I'd consider that a little... odd.

Do the contractors who work with the gardai wear 'Garda' name plates?

CHC have a contract to fly US military around Afghanistan, I used their flights quite often. No 'US Army' markings on them.

NTM

Here's one of the rescue helicopters. They have Irish Coast Guard on the side and underneath. They aren't linked to the Gardaí.

punchdrunk · 24-09-2010 8:55am

But the difference here is that our coast guard are a volunteer force
So I guess the arguement to be made here is your hired by CHC,but volunteer to join the IRCG

The whole idea is encourage integration of all units and minimize inter-service squabbles
Also if branded CHC alot of civies might think it was a private service,and not call 999 and ask for the coastguard helicopter if they thought it wasn't 100% free

Storm 10 · 24-09-2010 10:06am

oglaigh wrote: »

What you were expecting a show sponsored by ogrish or something??
The first episode they showed a search for a body. I had a relative kill themselves by jumping from a cliff who's body was found by the coastguard and RNLI. Now I wasnt upset so to speak by the footage last week but it certainly brought back memories of the night he died so I can see how some people could find those scenes distressing.

Of course I dont want to see anything all I was saying was what they said at the start of the programme, sorry about your relative.

They do a fantastic job in the Coastguard, I wonder how many times searchers passed by the wall where the helicopter found the missing man with the flir camera not knowing they were so close to him.

donkey balls · 24-09-2010 10:33am

Manic Moran wrote: »

I'd consider that a little... odd.

Do the contractors who work with the gardai wear 'Garda' name plates?

CHC have a contract to fly US military around Afghanistan, I used their flights quite often. No 'US Army' markings on them.

NTM

contractors in the Gardai?:eek:never heard of that before, sure the Gardai air support is crewed by the IAC(with a gaurd on board)and the acft is in the Gardai livery.
as for CHC i reckon the contract they have is ACMI some airlines have this in place around the world,i know my old crowd used alot of ACMI and the acft was painted in the company colours to people that did not know much about airline operations they assume the acft was ours.

RTE Documentry Rescue 117

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