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In-fill DTT tests - Any more out there?

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  • 13-12-2009 12:32pm
    #1
    tlaavtech
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    Following on from the extra channels found in Waterford City (http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055767307) has anyone else noticed more in-fill tests starting?

    Could this be a pre-cursor to a full (soft) DTT launch - Or am I just being overly optomistic :)


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    The Cush
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    tlaavtech wrote: »
    Following on from the extra channels found in Waterford City (http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055767307) has anyone else noticed more in-fill tests starting?

    Could this be a pre-cursor to a full (soft) DTT launch - Or am I just being overly optomistic :)

    This is just the ongoing rollout of the relay transmitters with the focus on the east and south-east it appears - with Clermont Carn, Three Rock, Kippure, Greystones, Mt Leinster and Dungarvan rolled out and now Suir Valley and Waterford now transmitting.

    RTE tendered for the upgrade of 13 relay sites last Feb. This upgrade now appears to be underway.

    The 13 sites listed in the tender were
    • Arklow, Co. Wicklow
    • Suir Valley, , Co Kilkenny
    • Forth Mountain, Co. Wexford
    • Gallows Hill, Co. Waterford
    • Drogheda (Our Lady of Lourdes Hospital), Co. Louth
    • Tonabrocky, Co. Galway
    • Tipperary, Co. Tipperary
    • Killarney, Co. Kerry
    • Navan, Co. Meath
    • Skerries, Co Dublin
    • Loughrea, Co. Galway
    • Árainn Mhór, Co. Donegal
    • Letterkenny, Co. Donegal


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    lucernarian
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    I'm giving this a bump. I'm keeping a close eye on what I hear in my area, as the new DTT relay in Drogheda is assigned the same channels as Divis analogue. And would cause more than a bit of grief to the amps of people who are getting Freeview.


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    Sponge Bob
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    To_be_confirmed wrote: »
    I'm giving this a bump. I'm keeping a close eye on what I hear in my area,

    Funny how that list is not quite the same as the Q3 2009 Coverage Plan that RTENL published in 2007 or 2008 prior to the Commercial DTT bids.

    The plan 2 years ago.

    Watts and Pop Coverage in %

    Arklow 250 0.3
    Gorey 10 0.2
    Suir Valley 700/2000 0.5
    Wexford 250 0.3 = Forth Mtn
    Waterford 250 0.9 = Gallows Hill
    Kilduff 25000 3.2
    Drogheda 130 0.7
    Galway 250 0.5
    Collins Barracks 80 0.6
    Glanmire 110 0.2
    Passage West (Marino Point) 70 0.2
    Crosshaven 500 0.7
    Clonmel 500 0.6
    Fermoy 50 0.2
    Kinsale 30 0.1


    Tipp Q1 2010 and Loughrea Q1 2011 back then
    Galway may not have been Tonabrocky but Hynes Building.


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    Gerry Wicklow
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    Any idea of proposed freqs for Arklow or Gorey in-fills?


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    The Cush
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    Gerry Wicklow wrote: »
    Any idea of proposed freqs for Arklow or Gorey in-fills?

    The following were the allocations at RRC-06

    Arklow 21, 22, 24, 25, 27, 28, 31, 32

    Gorey 54, 55, 58, 59, 61, 62, 64, 65


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    Sponge Bob
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    They include Analogue. Can you paste them all in Cush.

    Here is the old Cork Radio list of Analogue Channels from Geocities ( also attached) .

    These can be subtracted from the total RRC-06 allocations to get the Digital Mux frequencies. Use the attachment which is clearer.

    E.R.P. = 'Effective Radiated Power'
    The letters 'H' and 'V' under 'Pol' correspond to Aerial Polarisation (H=Horizontal/V=Vertical). In the case of sites which use a mixture of VHF Band 3 and UHF, two polarisations are listed as follows: VHF Band 3 polarisation/UHF polarisation

    In addition to these main transmitters nearly 100 lower powered relay sites exist. These are listed below. It should be noted that the majority of relays do not radiate omnidirectionaly. Furthermore a very small number of relays operate with Vertical polarisation in certain directions, and Horizontal polarisation in others (HV)


    RTE TV RELAYS

    Note sites prefixed by '**' are planned (not yet on air?).
    Relays with TV3 channels assigned prefixed by '*' (almost all) are not equipped for TV3 yet as of April 2003. There has been no announced timescale (that I know of) for the introduction of TV3 from these relays. It is likely that many (most?) relays will never broadcast TV3 using analogue. Affected viewers, who cannot receive TV3 from any other transmitter can only receive TV3 if they subscribe to cable/MMDS/Sky Digital. Unfortunately TV3 (as well as RTE1/NET2/TG4) is not available Free To Air/View on satellite,
    Since early 1998 most relay sites which had re-transmitted RTE1/Net2 at VHF have been converted to UHF for RTE1/Net2, the VHF services being decommissioned after a few months of parallel transmission. Locality (site) COUNTY RTE1 N2 TV3 TG4 Pol. Max ERP

    Abbeyfeale Limerick 39 42 *45 49 H 100W
    Achill Mayo 40 43 *46 50 V 8kW
    Arainn Mhor Donegal 39 42 *45 49 V 8kW
    Ashford Wicklow 22 25 *28 32 V 20W
    Ashleam Mayo 21 24 *27 31 V 25W
    Ballingeary Cork 54 58 *61 64 V 25W
    Ballintrillick Sligo 30 34 *? 37 H 50W
    Ballybofey/Stranorlar Donegal 54 58 *61 64 V 200W
    Ballydavid Kerry 22 25 *28 32 V 20W
    Ballymacarbry Waterford 54 58 *61 64 H 80W
    Bandon Cork 41 44 *47 51 H 10W
    Bantry/Glengarriff Cork 40 43 *46 50 VH 4kW,1kW site: Seskin
    Bealanabrack Galway 39 42 *45 49 H 100W
    Blarney Cork 29 33 *26 23 H 100W site: Woodside, 99m asl,omnidirectional, mobile phone (Esat?) comp. on same mast
    Broadford Clare 40 43 *46 50 V 20W
    Cahir Tipperary 40 43 *46 50 V 100W
    Cahirciveen (Kilkeaveragh) Kerry 39 42 *45 49 V 10kW
    Carlingford/Greenore Louth 61 67 *? 51 V 60W
    Casla Galway 39 42 *45 49 V 3kW
    Castlebar Mayo 29 33 *26 23 H 9kW
    Castletownbere Cork 53 57 *60 63 V 6kW site:Knockgour, 481m a.s.l.
    Clermont Carn - fill-in Louth UHF A 29 33
    Clifden Galway 22 25 *28 32 V 2kW
    Clonakilty Cork 39 42 *45 49 H ?
    Clonmany Donegal 39 42 *45 49 V 20W
    Clonmel Waterford 39 42 *45 49 H 400W
    Cork (Collins Barracks) Cork 39 49 46 43 V 165W
    Corrnamona Galway 21 24 *27 31 V 100W
    Crossbarry/Halfway Cork 54 58 *61 64 V 100W
    Crosshaven Cork 55 59 *62 65 V 1kW
    Dingle Kerry 23 26 *29 33 V 100W
    Dooncarton Mayo 21 24 *27 31 V 500W
    **Dowra Cavan/Leitrim 39 42 *45 49 V 20W
    Dromanassig Cork 54 58 *61 64 H 16W
    Dungarvan/Cappoquin Waterford 53 57 *60 63 H 10kW
    Dunquin Kerry 30 34 *26 23 H 10W
    Dunmanway Cork 41 44 *47 51 V 20W
    Ennistymon Clare 54 58 *61 64 H ?
    " I F H 12W (VHF has closed?)
    Failmore Galway 54 58 *61 64 V 10W
    Fanad Donegal 61 58 *? 64 V 4.7kW
    Fermoy Cork 39 42 *45 49 V 50W
    Glanmire Cork 41 44 *47 51 H 100W
    Glenbeigh Kerry 39 42 *45 49 H 15W
    Glencar Kerry 22 25 *28 32 V 10W
    Glencolumcille Donegal 39 42 *45 49 H ?
    Glenties Donegal 40 43 *46 50 H 100W
    Gorey Wexford 54 58 *61 64 H 10W
    Greystones Wicklow 53 57 *60 63 V 500W
    Headford Kerry 39 42 *45 49 H 25W
    Inchigeelagh Cork 40 43 *46 50 V 5W
    **Innishannon Cork 40 43 *46 50 H 50W
    Inistioge Kilkenny 53 57 *60 63 H 20W
    Kells Bay Kerry 22 25 *28 32 H 32W
    Kilkee Clare 54 58 *61 64 H 20W
    Killaloe Clare 54 58 *61 64 V 10W
    Killeagh (Garda Mast) Cork 54 58 *61 64 H 10W
    Kilmacomma Tipp/Waterford 22 25 *28 32 H 20W
    Kilmacthomas Waterford 54 58 *61 64 V 6W
    Kinsale Cork 29 33 *26 *23 V 5W
    Knockmoyle (SlieveMish) Kerry 53 57 *60 63 V 2kW
    Lahinch Clare 40 43 *46 50 V 20W
    Laragh/Glendalough Wicklow 41 44 *47 51 H ?
    Lauragh Kerry 55 59 *62 65 H 16W
    Leap Cork 41 44 *47 51 H 20W
    Letterkenny Donegal 52 56 *66 68 V 2.5kW
    Limerick (Woodcock Hill) Clare 39 42 45 49 H 2kW
    Listowel Kerry 53 57 *60 63 H ?
    Lomanaugh Kerry 39 42 *45 49 H 25W
    Maam Galway 21 24 *27 31 H 20W
    Macroom Cork 62 65 *59 55 H 50W
    Magheroarty Donegal 21 24 *27 31 V 1kW
    Malin Donegal 22 25 *28 32 H 50W
    Mamclasach Kerry 40 43 *46 50 V 20W
    Mitchelstown Cork 41 44 *47 51 V 1kW
    Monaghan Monaghan D F *61 64 H/H 1kW/5kW
    Monasootagh Wexford 54 58 *61 64 H 25W
    Mountainstage Kerry 22 25 *28 32 H 16W
    Moville Donegal 40 43 *46 50 H 2kW
    Mt. Gabriel Cork 29 33 *26 23 HV 1kW (UHF A)
    Mulranny Mayo 55 59 *62 65 H 32W
    Nire Valley Waterford 21 24 *27 31 H 25W
    Passage West(Marino Pt.) Cork 29 33 *26 23 V 40W
    Rosscarbery Cork 53 57 *60 63 H ?
    **Sligo Town Sligo no details yet 500W
    Suir Valley Kilkenny 53 57 *60 63 V 5.5kW
    Termon Donegal 54 58 *61 64 H 16W
    Tomriland Wicklow 21 24 *27 31 V 10W
    Westport Mayo 54 58 *61 64 H 40W
    Youghal-East (Ferry Pt.) Waterford 41 44 *47 51 V 125W
    Youghal-South (Strand) Cork 29 33 *35 37 H 3W


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    lucernarian
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    I shall post this link for posterity as it is the definitive current list from RTÉ.

    http://www.rtenl.ie/downloads/television-frequencies.pdf

    Aye, if analogue was ever to be used on the Drogheda relay, I'm pretty sure it would have been on 22, 25 and 32. And at least that allocation would have made some sense.


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    L1011
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    I'll try to get a DTT TV up with me to Arannmore over the Christmas, I doubt anyone up there is looking out for the tests though!


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    Sponge Bob
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    There is on the mainland in Nairn, you concentrate on surviving the sea crossing and the island drivers instead :D

    RTE list of analogues including self helps ( no TV3 allocations as they never took them up by and large)

    Relay Stations Site County RTÉ ONE RTÉ TWO TG4 TV3 ERP Aerial

    ABBEYFEALE Limerick 39 à 42 à 49 ® 100W UHF B
    ACHILL Mayo 40 * 43 * 50 * 8kW UHF B
    ÁRAINN MHÓR Donegal 39 * 42 * 49 * 8kW UHF B
    ASHFORD Wicklow 22 * 25 * 32 * 20W UHF A
    ASHLEAM Mayo 21 * 24 * 31 * 25W UHF A
    AUGHAVANNAGH Wicklow 54 à 58 à 64 à 10W UHF C/D
    BALLINGEARY Cork 54 * 58 * 64 * 25W UHF C/D
    BALLINTRILLICK Sligo 30 ® 34 ® 37 ® 50W UHF A
    BALLYBOFEY Donegal 54 * 58 * 64 * 200W UHF C/D
    BALLYDAVID Kerry 22 * 25 * 32 * 20W UHF A
    BALLYMACARBRY Waterford 54 ® 58 ® 64 ® 80W UHF C/D
    BANDON Cork 41 ® 44 ® 51 ® 8W UHF B
    BANTRY Cork 40 *® 43 *® 50 *® 4/1kW UHF B
    BEALANABREAC Galway 39 ® 42 ® 49® 100W UHF B
    BEEFAN Donegal 41 ® 44 ® 51 ® 10W UHF B
    BEN GORM Mayo 54 * 58 * 64 * 10W UHF C/D
    BLARNEY Cork 29 ® 33 ® 23 ® 100W UHF A
    BONANE Kerry 40 ® 43 ® 50 ® 10W UHF B
    BRISKA Mayo 54 ® 58 ® 21 ® 10W UHF W
    BROADFORD Clare 40 * 43 * 50 * 20W UHF B
    CAHIR Tipperary 35 * 37 * 48 * 30W UHF B
    CAPE CLEAR Cork 54 * 58 * 64 * 50W UHF C/D
    CARLINGFORD Louth 41 * 44 * 51 * 60W UHF B
    CASLA Galway 39 * 42 * 49 * 3kW UHF B
    CASTLEBAR Mayo 29 ® 33 ® 23 ® 9kW UHF A
    CASTLETOWNBERE Cork 53 * 57 * 63 * 6kW UHF C/D
    CLERMONT LP Louth 29 * 33 * … 10W UHF A
    CLIFDEN Galway 22 * 25 * 32 * 10kW UHF A
    CLONAKILTY Cork 39 ® 42 ® 49 ® 200W UHF B
    CLONMANY Donegal 39 * 42 * 49 * 20W UHF B
    CLONMEL Waterford 40 ® 43 ® 50® 400W UHF B
    COLLINS BARRACKS Cork 39 * 52* 43 * 46 * 165W UHF B
    CORRNAMÓNA Galway 21 * 24 * 31 * 100W UHF A
    CRAFFIELD Wicklow 30 ® 34 ® 37 ® 10W UHF A
    CRIMLIN EAST Galway 41 * 44 * 51 * 10w UHF B
    CROSS Donegal 46 ® 52 ® 68 ® 10W UHF W
    CROSSBARRY Cork 54 * 58 * 64 * 100W UHF C/D
    CROSSHAVEN Cork 55 * 59 * 65 * 1kW UHF C/D
    CURRAN’S PORT Donegal 51 ® 44 ® 41 ® 10W UHF B
    DINGLE Kerry 23 * 26 * 33 * 100W UHF A
    DOONCARTON Mayo 21 *® 24 *® 31 *® 500W UHF A
    DRIMOLEAGUE Cork 39 * 42 * 49 * 50W UHF B
    DROMANASSIG Kerry 54 ® 58 ® 64 ® 16W UHF C/D
    DROMORE Donegal 54 ® 58 ® 64 ® 10W UHF C/D
    DROUMGARRIFF Cork 22 ® 25 ® 32 ® 10W UHF A
    DUNGARVAN Waterford 53 ® 57 ® 63 ® 10kW UHF C/D
    DUNMANWAY Cork 41 * 44 * 51 * 20W UHF B
    DUNQUIN Kerry 30 ® 34 ® 43 ® 10W UHF B
    ENNISTYMON Clare 54 ® 58 ® 64 ® 20W UHF C/D
    FAILMORE Galway 54 * 58 * 64 * 10W UHF C/D
    FANAD Donegal 61 * 58 * 64 * 4.7kW UHF C/D
    FERMOY Cork 39 * 42 * 49 * 50W UHF B
    FERRYPOINT Waterford 41 * 44 * 51 * 125W UHF B
    FINVARRA Clare 21 * 24 * 31 * 50W UHF A
    GLANMIRE Cork 41 ® 44 ® 51 ® 100W UHF B
    GLENACARNEY Cork 40 ® 43 ® 50 ® 10W UHF B
    GLENBEIGH Kerry 39 ® 42 ® 49 ® 15W UHF B
    GLENCAR Kerry 22 * 25 * 32 * 10W UHF A
    GLENCOLUMCILLE Donegal 39 ® 42 ® 49 ® 20W UHF B
    GLENMALURE Wicklow 30 ® 34 ® 37 ® 10W UHF A
    GLENTIES Donegal 40 ® 43 ® 50 ® 100W UHF B
    GOREY Wexford 54 ® 58 ® 64 ® 10W UHF C/D
    GREYSTONES Wicklow 53 * 57 * 63 * 500W UHF C/D
    HEADFORD Kerry 39 ® 42 ® 49 ® 25W UHF B
    INCHIGEELAGH Cork 40 * 43 * 50 * 5W UHF B
    INISTIOGE Kilkenny 53 ® 57 ® 63 ® 20W UHF C/D
    KELLS BAY Kerry 22 ® 25 ® 32 ® 32W UHF A
    KILBANE Clare 30 * 34 * 37 * 10W UHF A
    KILCAR Donegal 40 ® 43 ® 50 ® 10W UHF B
    KILCAR GLEN Donegal 41 ® 44 ® 51 ® 10W UHF B
    KILKEAVERAGH Kerry 39 * 42 * 49 * 10kW UHF B
    KILKEE Clare 54 ® 58 ® 64 ® 20W UHF C/D
    KILLALOE Clare 54 * 58 * 64 * 10W UHF C/D
    KILLEAGH Cork 54 ® 58 ® 64 ® 10W UHF C/D
    KILLURLEY WEST Kerry 53 * 57 * 63 * 5W UHF C/D
    KILMACOMMA Tipperary 22 ® 25 ® 32 ® 20W UHF A
    KILMACTHOMAS Waterford 54 * 58 * 64 * 6W UHF C/D
    KINSALE Cork 29 * 33 * 23 * 5W UHF A
    KNOCKFOLA Donegal 30 ® 34 ® 37 ® 5W UHF A
    KNOCKGRAFFON Tipperary 21 ® 24 ® … 10W UHF A
    KNOCKMOYLE Kerry 53 * 57 * 63 * 2kW UHF C/D
    LARAGH Wicklow 41 ® 44 ® 51 ® 20W UHF B
    LAURAGH Kerry 55 ® 59 ® 65 ® 16W UHF C/D
    LEAP Cork 41 ® 44 ® 51 ® 20W UHF B
    LEHINCH Clare 40 * 43 * 50 * 180W UHF B
    LETTERKENNY Donegal 52 * 56 * 68 * 2.5kW UHF C/D
    LISTOWEL Kerry 53 ® 57 ® 63 ® 100W UHF C/D
    LOMANAUGH Kerry 39 ® 42 ® 49 ® 25W UHF B
    MAAM Galway 21 ® 24 ® 31 ® 20W UHF A
    MACROOM Cork 62 ® 65 ® 55 ® 50W UHF C/D
    MAGHERAROARTY Donegal 21 * 24 * 31 * 1kW UHF A
    MALIN Donegal 22 ® 25 ® 32 ® 50W UHF A
    MÁMCLASACH Kerry 40 * 43 * 50 * 20W UHF B
    MARINO POINT Cork 29 * 33 * 23* 40W UHF A
    MITCHELSTOWN Cork 41 * 44 * 51 * 1kW UHF B
    MONAGHAN Monaghan D ® F ® 64 ® 5kW BIII & UHFC/D
    MONASOOTAGH Wexford 54 ® 58 ® 64 ® 25W UHF C/D
    MORLEY’S BRIDGE Kerry 29 ® 33 ® 37 ® 10W UHF A
    MOSSY GLEN Donegal 53 * 57 * 63 * 5W UHF C/D
    MOUNTAINSTAGE Kerry 22 ® 25 ® 32 ® 16W UHF A
    MOUNT GABRIEL Cork 29 *® 33 *® 23 *® 1kW UHF A
    MOUNT LEINSTER LP Wexford 29 ® 33 ® … 100W UHF A
    MOVILLE Donegal 40 ® 43 ® 50 ® 2kW UHF B
    MULRANNY Mayo 55 ® 59 ® 65 ® 32W UHF C/D
    NIRE VALLEY Waterford 21 ® 24 ® 31 ® 25W UHF A
    RENVYLE Galway 53 * 57 * 63 * 10W UHF C/D
    ROSSCARBERY Cork 53 ® 57 ® 63 ® 50W UHF C/D
    SHANFARAGHAUN Galway 39 * 42 * 49 * 10W UHF B
    SUIR VALLEY Waterford 53 * 57 * 63 * 5,5kW UHF C/D
    TERMON Donegal 54 ® 58 ® 64 ® 16W UHF C/D
    TINAHELY Wicklow 30 * 34 * 37 * 20W UHF A
    TOMRILAND Wicklow 21 * 24 * 31 * 10W UHF A
    WESTPORT Mayo 54 ® 58 ® 64 ® 40W UHF C/D
    WOODCOCK HILL Limerick 39 ® 42 ® 49 ® 45 ® 2kW UHF B
    WOODENBRIDGE Wicklow 30 * 34 * 37 * 10W UHF A
    YOUGHAL STRAND Cork 29 ® 33 ® 37 ® 3W UHF A
    Information correct Nov 2008


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    Souriau
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    To_be_confirmed wrote: »
    I'm giving this a bump. I'm keeping a close eye on what I hear in my area, as the new DTT relay in Drogheda is assigned the same channels as Divis analogue. And would cause more than a bit of grief to the amps of people who are getting Freeview.

    What the frequency are you talking for the new DTT?
    Don't forget that Divis will switch off all analouge frequency in 2012 and they also will change the DTT frequency all below 30
    at the moment DTT are 23, 26, 29, 33, 34 & 48, that will change to 21, 23, 26, 27, 29 and the new HD on 24


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    lucernarian
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    Drogheda's DTT allocation is 21, 24, 27, 31.


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    Souriau
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    To_be_confirmed wrote: »
    Drogheda's DTT allocation is 21, 24, 27, 31.

    You could tune into Kilkeel when it switch on in 2012
    they are only PSB. they are 42,45 & 49


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    Mayo Exile
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    Shame they wouldn't equip the Castlebar relay for DTT now. Analogue wise it's pretty powerful (9Kw). Would bring DTT to a large part of County Mayo. Not due for an upgrade until towards the end of 2010 I think.


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    upsilon
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    The Cush wrote: »
    The following were the allocations at RRC-06

    Arklow 21, 22, 24, 25, 27, 28, 31, 32

    Gorey 54, 55, 58, 59, 61, 62, 64, 65

    any idea of the location of the arklow mast? would it be the old one on the hill in the north of town or a new one?


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