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16-08-2009, 18:37   #1
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Towing caravans in Ireland

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What are the requirements for towing caravans in Ireland?
Minimum age, license requirements, insurance etc!
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16-08-2009, 23:25   #2
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So long as the car + caravan do not exceed 3,500KG you normal driving license will be ok. If you are over that you need a towing license. Normal car insurance should cover you but check with your ins. co. to be sure. Make sure the car is big enough for the caravan.
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So long as the car + caravan do not exceed 3,500KG you normal driving license will be ok. If you are over that you need a towing license. Normal car insurance should cover you but check with your ins. co. to be sure. Make sure the car is big enough for the caravan.
Do caravans require a 3rd party insurance policy of their own now? I know HGV trailers and some large car trailers do.

You cannot exceed 80km/h when towing. And as db says make sure the tow vehicle is rated to tow the caravan. It's also advisable to buy mirror extenders if the caravan blocks your normal wing mirrors.
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Just watch the combined weight. My brother has been towing a caravan for 20 years but this year he got some hassle from the Gardai as they reckoned his Nissan Jeep & caravan were over 3500kg. He got away with it but on weighing it himself later, it turns out that he is over weight. Will now need to do the test to get the "over 3500kg towing" bit.

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A caravan is classed as a trailer so as long as the weight of the trailer is no more than 750kg fully ladened a b license is the correct license.

90% of caravan owner's are unknownly towing illegaly.If you intend to tow a trailer of anykind you have to by law tell your ins. co. some will charge a small amount extra some will not charge.


The 85% rule that being your van should be within 85% of your towcar weight ie; car = 1000kg van= 850kg.

catorgry B full licence can tow a trailer:ie:caravan,horsebox. that is no more than 750kg .
for bigger you will have to do a driving test for a different cat.



Trailers

Cars and trailers


If you hold a Full category B licence, you may tow a trailer only if:
  • the design gross vehicle weight of the trailer is 750kg or less, or
  • the unladen (empty) weight of your towing vehicle is at least the same as the trailer's design gross vehicle weight, and the combined design gross vehicle weight of the vehicle and trailer is no more than 3,500kg.
When using a car to tow a heavier trailer, you must hold a category EB licence.
Heavier vehicles and trailers

You must hold a Category EC, EC1, ED or ED1 Licence if you want to tow a heavier trailer. These are the licences that entitle you to drive the combinations of the towing vehicles and the trailer (see page 12).
this is the link of which info comes from. http://www.rotr.ie/your-licence-and-....html#trailers
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A caravan is classed as a trailer so as long as the weight of the trailer is no more than 750kg fully ladened a b license is the correct license.

90% of caravan owner's are unknownly towing illegaly.If you intend to tow a trailer of anykind you have to by law tell your ins. co. some will charge a small amount extra some will not charge.


The 85% rule that being your van should be within 85% of your towcar weight ie; car = 1000kg van= 850kg.

catorgry B full licence can tow a trailer:ie:caravan,horsebox. that is no more than 750kg .
for bigger you will have to do a driving test for a different cat.



Trailers

Cars and trailers


If you hold a Full category B licence, you may tow a trailer only if:
  • the design gross vehicle weight of the trailer is 750kg or less, or
  • the unladen (empty) weight of your towing vehicle is at least the same as the trailer's design gross vehicle weight, and the combined design gross vehicle weight of the vehicle and trailer is no more than 3,500kg.
When using a car to tow a heavier trailer, you must hold a category EB licence.
Heavier vehicles and trailers

You must hold a Category EC, EC1, ED or ED1 Licence if you want to tow a heavier trailer. These are the licences that entitle you to drive the combinations of the towing vehicles and the trailer (see page 12).
this is the link of which info comes from. http://www.rotr.ie/your-licence-and-....html#trailers
Brian, The key word above is or. The maximum trailer weight you can tow is 1750kg if your tow vehicle is exactly 1750kg. As the weight of the tow vehicle increases, the maximum allowed weight of the trailer decreases to a maximum combined weight of 3500kg. In my case, the weight of my tow vehicle is 1900kg and my caravan max weight is 1420kg so this is a legal combination.

The 85% rule is only a recommendation by the caravan clubs in the UK as a guideline for maintaining a stable outfit. It is worth keeping in mind when choosing a caravan or tow vehicle.

I had a long discussion about this with the RSA who confirmed my interpretation of the regulations.
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Towing a horsebox

Do I need a category EB licence to tow a horsebox with horse in it, ie. does that mean I am over the 750kg trailer limit?
If I do need the licence, how do I go about it because I have asked in two separate licencing offices who were highly confused when I asked them about towing licences and procedures etc.
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Do I need a category EB licence to tow a horsebox with horse in it, ie. does that mean I am over the 750kg trailer limit?
If I do need the licence, how do I go about it because I have asked in two separate licencing offices who were highly confused when I asked them about towing licences and procedures etc.
there was a big discussion on this on the iccc.ie forum (public access forum) a few months back. "EB licence & towing legalities"

I've had my EB provisional with a few months so will apply for the text soon (6 months wait). Also needed to do theory test as hadnt been one when I got my full licence 15 years ago - tis all a bit cumbersome/nonsensical but better safe than sorry.
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Brian, The key word above is or. The maximum trailer weight you can tow is 1750kg if your tow vehicle is exactly 1750kg. As the weight of the tow vehicle increases, the maximum allowed weight of the trailer decreases to a maximum combined weight of 3500kg. In my case, the weight of my tow vehicle is 1900kg and my caravan max weight is 1420kg so this is a legal combination.

The 85% rule is only a recommendation by the caravan clubs in the UK as a guideline for maintaining a stable outfit. It is worth keeping in mind when choosing a caravan or tow vehicle.

I had a long discussion about this with the RSA who confirmed my interpretation of the regulations.
ekwi and others,

The answer is in db's reply to brian's post in which he (brian) did not taken into account the 'or' word
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This is just my interpretation having read the regulation as posted by Brian above and discussed it in detail with a person from the licensing section of the RSA. It is up to each tow-car driver to establish themselves whether they have the correct license.
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This is just my interpretation having read the regulation as posted by Brian above and discussed it in detail with a person from the licensing section of the RSA. It is up to each tow-car driver to establish themselves whether they have the correct license.
You're right, it's plain english.

See HERE for the definitive position from an organisation which knows what it is talking about.
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You're right, it's plain english.

See HERE for the definitive position from an organisation which knows what it is talking about.
Very straightforward and sensible isn't it? Unfortunately that is for the UK.
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Very straightforward and sensible isn't it? Unfortunately that is for the UK.
And also the RoI and the rest of the EU.
Remember good ould harmonisation, we're all in the same boat on this one.
As you said yourself, in reference to trailers/caravans over 750kg, those with a simple B licence are governed by the second option in the regulation following the 'or'.
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21-11-2011, 09:28   #15
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Caravan Dimensions RoI

Does anyone know if these are the same as the UK ie, for a caravan over 7 metres long, the towing vehicle must have a gvw in excess of 3.5tonnes?

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