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  • 04-07-2006 7:59pm
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    Exposure Mission Statement

    Aims: To promote and encourage young Irish bands and musicians to make those extra steps to becoming better musicians themselves and to give them a real chance of making it in the music industry.

    Methods: By staging regular all ages and over 18’s gigs showcasing new and developing Irish bands, giving them a chance to play in front of people who they wouldn’t necessarily have been exposed to before. Then from these gigs, the bands will be given advice on how they might improve as a band or progress further in the music industry. We will then showcase these bands with more highly acclaimed Irish and international acts, with the intent to gain them even more exposure. We will be inviting A&R people from various labels and other music industry professionals to these showcase gigs. We will also be helping these acts with issues such as advertising and promoting themselves (which seems to be a huge problem in the Irish music industry especially among young bands). Bands also seem to forget that there is a huge market for music outside of Dublin not only in the pale. We also have plans to get a magazine printed , promoting and advertising bands, events and the underground music scene in general.

    Things To Note:
    • You do not need to be in a band who are just starting/beginning to work with us, we will work with any bands from the least experiences to the most experienced.
    • We are not a record company or label, and we will not be asking the bands to sign any documents.
    • We are a non-government organization and we do not receive any funding from the government, art-council and as of yet any other body. We will however be negotiating sponsorship deals with various companies in exchange for advertising ect, in order to further the exposure and assistance these bands receive.
    • Any advice the bands we work with are given will be objective. The advice will be what we believe will further them as an act and what will assist them in any way to become closer to their dream. We set out to help these bands, not to offend them and s any advice given will be presented to the bands in the nicest way possible.
    • We will not be asking for any money from the bands. Our gigs are not set up in a “pay-to-play” format. We will ask that bands do genuinely have the hunger to



    • expand their talent and are willing to co-operate and do whatever it takes to make it in the music industry. We will however be asking the bands for any demos they have recorded and also maybe a meeting before we work with the band.
    • For additional meetings regarding advice ect. We will however be asking a small fee of 10 euro.

    Reasons To Work With Us:
    • You will be getting free advice regarding industry skills and any other skills which may help you along the way!
    • You will be getting the opportunity to play in front of audiences you wouldn’t have been playing to before.
    • You will be getting the opportunity to play in venues in towns and city’s other than the ones you currently frequent/play.
    • You will be playing with bands who you have not played with before, hence exposing you to their audiences and vice versa.
    • We will be organizing gig swaps with bands from Ireland and abroad so it will be an opportunity for you to play in totally different environments.
    • You will be getting the opportunity to play with much more established Irish and international acts in bigger venues to bigger crowds.
    • Bands will receive a lot of publicity, through many different mediums.
    • Bands will receive a lot of experience they wouldn’t be getting otherwise.



    Things We Ask In Return:
    • We will ask that bands are genuinely and actively interested in helping themselves and each other.
    • The whole emphasis of “Exposure” is that the bands are receiving all of this for free. We cannot run all of this without co-operation from all the bands playing.
    • We will ask that bands have a demo for us if possible.
    • And most of all we ask that bands have the hunger to succeed, and will do whatever it takes to progress in the music industry.



    How Do You Become Involved?
    • You can contact us on phone on [number removed - miju].text messages may not always be answered.
    • Alternatively you can contact us by email at [email removed - miju] and just state in the subject line that you wish to become involved in exposure. The body of the text should include your band name, details ie. Genre and previous gigs/credits and contact details, including a postal address where possible.

    Company Director: Al Keogh
    Contact details: [removed - miju]

    Regards,
    Alan Keogh[/email]


Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 64 ✭✭clay


    sounds like a noble enterprise and i wish you the very best of luck with it.

    whats your background in the music business?


  • Registered Users Posts: 834 ✭✭✭The Agogo


    Left ye a PM...thanks


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,848 ✭✭✭✭Doctor J


    What is the set up of the gigs? You say it's not pay to play, do bands have to sell tickets beforehand or bring a specific number of punters to each gig? Will you pay the bands for money made at gigs and, if so, in what way, how will any money made be divided?

    Don't take it the wrong way, it appears a very noble cause, but having been involved in music here for almost 20 years I've learned you get nothing for nothing so I'd just like to get a little more info. Thanks.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3 alananatomy


    the bands do not need to sell tickets or bring a specific number of people to the gigs. One of the main points of "exposure" is that bands who really are just in their infancy can get a shot of playing and learning how to improve. The bands will not be paid for the gigs now the money will go back into the company and will go towards further promotion and advertising.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6 daodownandout


    We would be interested. I've sent you a private message.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 8,486 ✭✭✭miju


    the bands do not need to sell tickets or bring a specific number of people to the gigs. One of the main points of "exposure" is that bands who really are just in their infancy can get a shot of playing and learning how to improve. The bands will not be paid for the gigs now the money will go back into the company and will go towards further promotion and advertising.

    so in otherwords a bottom feeder who preys on young bands , gets them to play gigs for free in the process bringing along all their friends and family,

    this is actually worse than pay-to-play and screams scam to me

    what are you going to be "investing" your profits in , because advertising / promotional budgets should be factored into a gig before you book a venue and you should then be able to give the bands some money as well as take a profit for yourself.

    there's no need for all the noble promo blurb , tell a band i'll give you a gig your getting x amount and i'm getting the rest , it'll probably work out better for you with more established bands with bigger crowds coming to the gigs


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,848 ✭✭✭✭Doctor J


    Indeed. A band should be paid if they bring punters through the door. End of story.

    Here's a free lesson to all musicians, bands, profs, etc

    Don't sell yourself short. It is quite possible and straightforward to organise and promote your own gigs and be rightfully paid for your efforts. Why should you not get paid for your hard work? You don't have to look far for help. The best thing to do is talk to the many other bands who are gigging regularily. Bands should help other bands out and many do. Never be afraid to ask for advice here or on any of the other forums.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 8,486 ✭✭✭miju


    and i think that sums it up nicely , thread close , muppet banned :-)


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