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What was Enda Kenny's racist joke?

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  • #32
    hawkmoon269
    Closed Accounts Posts: 463 ✭✭hawkmoon269


    Sproston Green - great song! :D


  • #33
    hawkmoon269
    Closed Accounts Posts: 463 ✭✭hawkmoon269


    I think Inda is a bit of an idiot but I don't think this joke was particularly offensive. It was certainly a lot less offensive than a 'joke' at the expense of the homeless I heard some prat in a bow tie tell at a bankers do a few years ago.


  • #34
    Shabadu
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,659 ✭✭✭Shabadu


    FX Meister wrote:
    Which one? The comment about them all looking the same was in the paper some time last year. As for the slope comment, it was in the run up to the local elections in 2004 in a pub off the Navan road.
    Jesus. You'd think this would automatically prevent him having any chance at leadership. Do you mind if I ask are these attributed quotes? "Sometime in the papers" does not strike me as a reliable source. I have large doubts that something so blatantly racist would go under the radar to this extent. IMO he would have had to resign, or sued the paper for libel to save face if this actually had credible witnessess.

    Did you actually hear him offend the waitress or is this something you heard from someone?


  • #35
    DamoKen
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,269 ✭✭✭DamoKen


    snickerpuss wrote:
    "In London, a spokesman for the Commission for Racial Equality said it was 'inconceivable' that a prominent politician in Britain would use such language and keep his or her job."

    Whats up with the British politician thing?

    think they just meant that if a prominent British politician was to say that, there wouldn't be a chance of them retaining their position, which is generally speaking true enough, a whiff of scandal in British politics and you're generally out on your ear, it wasn't inferring that we're part of Britain as I read it


  • #36
    FX Meister
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,215 ✭✭✭FX Meister


    Shabadu I heard him make the comment about the waitress, he didn't say it to her face obviously. There was a group of us there and I was with the group. He made the comment to a number of people beside him including some of the party office staff. As for his comments about them looking the same, he made it at some young FG debate or something. It was in either UCD or Trinity.
    As for him being the leader of the country. I don't think the current government is that good but Kenny as a leader would be a disaster. He has never heald any position of power, ever. Even when his party was in power he didn't hold any key position. I think his ego is far too big as well.


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  • #37
    besty
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,010 ✭✭✭besty


    Shabadu wrote:
    Ok- this has me a tad baffled. Kenny didn't call Lumumba the N word, he was referring to a barman who had called him such. Does this mean if I say "I heard someone call someone an offensive word once" mean that I had called the person the offensive word? No. That being said, I don't think he was being appropriate nor should use that word in any context.
    That's an important distinction to make. I personally dont think he is that bad.


  • #38
    strassenwolf
    Closed Accounts Posts: 642 ✭✭✭strassenwolf


    FX Meister wrote:
    Shabadu I heard him make the comment about the waitress, he didn't say it to her face obviously. There was a group of us there and I was with the group. He made the comment to a number of people beside him including some of the party office staff. As for his comments about them looking the same, he made it at some young FG debate or something. It was in either UCD or Trinity.
    If you are going to be saying defamatory things about someone, you really should be able to back them up. I'd be surprised if he said such things, but I can't imagine that it would have been missed by the media if he had said them.
    As for him being the leader of the country. I don't think the current government is that good but Kenny as a leader would be a disaster. He has never heald any position of power, ever. Even when his party was in power he didn't hold any key position. I think his ego is far too big as well.
    Well, you're wrong on that, so it's hard for me to take your earlier comments with any seriousness. We don't know what kind of a leader of the country he would/will make, but we do know that he has had several junior minister positions and was a cabinet minister from 1994 to 1997. No position of power?


  • #39
    Hagar
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    Shabadu wrote:
    Kenny didn't call Lumumba the N word, he was referring to a barman who had called him such.
    besty wrote:
    That's an important distinction to make.

    So it's ok now for posters to tell racist niqqer jokes in the Humour Forum as long as the preceed it with "I heard a barman say this..." ?

    Somehow I don't think that's going to work.:rolleyes:


  • #40
    asahi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35 ✭asahi


    So Enda Kenny made a remark which was considered offensive.

    He apologised, and the incident was forgotten about, and we all moved on.

    Vincent Browne made a remark which was considered offensive.

    He apologised, and the incident was forgotten about, and we all moved on.

    Well, not all of us, clearly.


  • #41
    gonedrinking
    Closed Accounts Posts: 810 ✭✭✭gonedrinking


    thats what my thoughts were too, Kenny is a hypocritical little cnut


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  • #42
    davetherave
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,555 ✭✭✭davetherave


    Some have moved on, others have won an award for bump of the millennium. :rolleyes: :pac:


  • #43
    gonedrinking
    Closed Accounts Posts: 810 ✭✭✭gonedrinking


    davetherave wrote: »
    Some have moved on, others have won an award for bump of the millennium. :rolleyes: :pac:

    but its now relevant because of kennys supposed high moral ground stance


  • #44
    mconigol
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,583 ✭✭✭mconigol


    gonedrinking wrote: »
    thats what my thoughts were too, Kenny is a hypocritical little cnut

    lol...the irony!

    moaning about kenny being racist but yet you seem to think it's acceptable to call him a **** (spelling it wrong doesn't make it any different)

    FF supporters must be really desperate to be digging up a thread from 2005 :rolleyes:


  • #45
    Jim Stark
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 66 ✭✭Jim Stark


    Zombie thread!!

    Joke wasn't racist, but unfunny.


  • #46
    gonedrinking
    Closed Accounts Posts: 810 ✭✭✭gonedrinking


    Jim Stark wrote: »
    Zombie thread!!

    Joke wasn't racist, but unfunny.

    So its ok to use the N word now to describe black people, right so.


  • #47
    gonedrinking
    Closed Accounts Posts: 810 ✭✭✭gonedrinking


    mconigol wrote: »
    lol...the irony!

    moaning about kenny being racist but yet you seem to think it's acceptable to call him a **** (spelling it wrong doesn't make it any different)

    FF supporters must be really desperate to be digging up a thread from 2005 :rolleyes:

    I'll be voting fg in this election due to the lack of credible alternatives, but even I can see that Kenny is no better than anyone in FF. He is a corrupt, backward, gombeen, this little incident and his handling of the FG TD who threatened the garda just proves it.


  • #48
    Badgermonkey
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    Given time, Kenny will discredit himself.

    No need to go digging for slurs.


  • #49
    minidazzler
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,650 ✭✭✭✭minidazzler


    gonedrinking wrote: »
    So its ok to use the N word now to describe black people, right so.

    Technically Jenny didn't describe anyone as a jigger, he told an annecdotal story which involved someone else using the term as a description. And it was a long long time ago. Get over it.

    Spelling mistakes due to hangover and mobile


  • #50
    mconigol
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,583 ✭✭✭mconigol


    minidazzler wrote: »
    Technically Jenny didn't describe anyone as a jigger, he told an annecdotal story which involved someone else using the term as a description. And it was a long long time ago. Get over it.

    I'd agree with that post...I'm just puzzled as to how that anecdote would ever come up in normal conversation :confused:


  • #51
    DOC09UNAM
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,305 ✭✭✭DOC09UNAM


    mconigol wrote: »
    lol...the irony!

    moaning about kenny being racist but yet you seem to think it's acceptable to call him a **** (spelling it wrong doesn't make it any different)

    FF supporters must be really desperate to be digging up a thread from 2005 :rolleyes:

    You're joking right? Being racist and calling someone a cúnt are miles apart.


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  • #52
    minidazzler
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,650 ✭✭✭✭minidazzler


    mconigol wrote: »
    I'd agree with that post...I'm just puzzled as to how that anecdote would ever come up in normal conversation :confused:

    Me too,maybe they were having the cocktail?


  • #53
    mconigol
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,583 ✭✭✭mconigol


    DOC09UNAM wrote: »
    You're joking right? Being racist and calling someone a cúnt are miles apart.

    Why exactly?

    The UN's definition of racial discrimination is:
    the term "racial discrimination" shall mean any distinction, exclusion, restriction or preference based on race, colour, descent, or national or ethnic origin which has the purpose or effect of nullifying or impairing the recognition, enjoyment or exercise, on an equal footing, of human rights and fundamental freedoms in the political, economic, social, cultural or any other field of public life.[7]

    From my reading Kenny recalled an time when somebody else called somebody else a name that has racist connotations.

    Simply saying the word ****** doesn't make somebody a racist although it is understandably an offensive term to certain races.

    If somebody called me a **** I'd be equally offended as being called a name with associated with being derogatory to my race...


  • #54
    Micky Dolenz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,079 ✭✭✭✭Micky Dolenz


    Zeds thread dead, baby.


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