Thinking of starting German-styled pub in Dublin

ringadingding · 19-02-2012 9:16pm

Irish Chef living in Vienna here,

I think it would work, I used to be a regular in the Czech Inn, in Temple bar, the food wouldn't be a million miles from Austrian food, therefore I'm presuming not too far from German food, its a popular spot.

The craft German beers would go down a storm in my opinion, though i'm not sure if you would get a regular regulars crowd of Irish, we tend to like our own boozers if that makes sense.

I do also think genuine German food would go down very very well.

The bull and castle is one place that sprung to mind.

If German waiters are anything like Viennese waiters, then shelve that idea

rude doesn't come close !
Dirndls, oh yeah, that would be a key drawing point.

Tab system? no fooking way in Ireland.

The very best of luck.

P.s, A Irish bar in Germany/Austria would make you alot more money.

janullrich · 23-02-2012 9:30pm

Thanks guys. I have been speaking to a few people to get the idea going. Definately some good ideas there. One thing that has be a slight bit worried is the amount of boozers closing down ie Odeon off Harcourt Street. Never saw that coming to be honest!

Lawrence1895 · 23-02-2012 10:31pm

janullrich wrote: »

Thanks guys. I have been speaking to a few people to get the idea going. Definately some good ideas there. One thing that has be a slight bit worried is the amount of boozers closing down ie Odeon off Harcourt Street. Never saw that coming to be honest!

Don't get frustrated by that fact. If you have an idea, nobody else has, you create an outstanding venue and have a good chance to be successful

prinz · 24-02-2012 5:37pm

Preusse wrote: »

Das Dunkle ist fantastisch! Und super essen kann man da auch. Direkt am Alten Markt hinter'm Rathaus am Marktplatz.

Is that the square Johannes-Rau-Platz? Up the Barmen end of Wuppertal?

Dr Strange · 25-02-2012 8:24am

prinz wrote: »

Is that the square Johannes-Rau-Platz? Up the Barmen end of Wuppertal?

Yep, although it wasn't called Johannes-Rau Platz in my time but I heard about it when it changed name. Good for him.

prinz · 27-02-2012 11:13am

Preusse wrote: »

Yep, although it wasn't called Johannes-Rau Platz in my time but I heard about it when it changed name. Good for him.

Thanks. I'll have to check it out next time I'm in Wuppertal.

janullrich · 20-03-2012 8:32pm

Guys thanks for the comments. I have decided to opening a small outside "tent" for the Summer in the city centre to see how it goes which would sell German sausages, steaks etc. It is best to start to start off small. How difficult is it to get a permit to open up a small joint like this. I was also thinking of selling German beer but I don't know if a licence can be got for this. Anybody have any ideas?

Lawrence1895 · 20-03-2012 10:34pm

janullrich wrote: »

Guys thanks for the comments. I have decided to opening a small outside "tent" for the Summer in the city centre to see how it goes which would sell German sausages, steaks etc. It is best to start to start off small. How difficult is it to get a permit to open up a small joint like this. I was also thinking of selling German beer but I don't know if a licence can be got for this. Anybody have any ideas?

Did you ever get in contact with a brewery in Germany?

Anyway, keep us up-to-date about the venue, please. I will be there for sure

MusicDots · 03-04-2012 1:50pm

Super Idee!

"Was der Ire nicht kennt, saeuft er nicht" ist totaler Schwachsinn, warum boomen denn als einzige wohl im Moment die Craft Beer- Pubs??? Jetzt ist genau der richtige Zeitpunkt, die Leute sind ein bisschen offener geworden und probieren auch gerne mal was Neues. Der Pub wuerde sich auf JEDEN Fall halten koennen in der Stadt, es gibt genug Deutsche in Dublin, deutsche Touristen, Iren, die schon in Deutschland gewohnt haben und das auch vermissen, und Leute, die froh sind, dass es endlich mal was anderes als Plörre zu trinken gibt (also unbedingt Werbung in den Craft Beer- Pubs machen, da ist die Kundschaft!). Ich stimme vorherigen Postern zu: bitte keinen Bayern-Pub! Wenn deutsch, dann richtig und nicht voll mit Klischees. Und wenn Du echt Bundesliga auf der Leinwand hast, dann wird das ein voller Erfolg!!!

The Corinthian · 03-04-2012 1:57pm

MusicDots wrote: »

Ich stimme vorherigen Postern zu: bitte keinen Bayern-Pub! Wenn deutsch, dann richtig und nicht voll mit Klischees. Und wenn Du echt Bundesliga auf der Leinwand hast, dann wird das ein voller Erfolg!!!

Bah, Preussen...

MusicDots · 03-04-2012 1:59pm

Lawrence1895 · 03-04-2012 2:15pm

The Corinthian wrote: »

Bah, Preussen...

*sing* 'Bayern kommt zu Oesterreich'

mahamageehad · 05-04-2012 9:12pm

Would you have applewein? (Ebbolwoi)?

Lawrence1895 · 05-04-2012 10:07pm

mahamageehad wrote: »

Would you have applewein? (Ebbolwoi)?

Jemand aus Darmstadt, der Ebbelwoi mag? Ich dachte, das waere ein Frankfurter Getraenk

Bullseye1 · 05-04-2012 10:12pm

I'd love to visit your pub if you ever get it up and running. Some beautiful beers in Germany and I love the pub grub there.

WIZE · 05-04-2012 10:19pm

I was a General Manager of an Irish Pub in Germany for 8 years

if you need any help pm me

janullrich · 09-04-2012 11:51am

Thanks for the comments guys. Research has shown that this is a runner. Problem is finance. Banks are not open to it as it is too risky. I looked at a franchaise with the Bavarian Beerhouse who have a few operations in London but they have not replied and secondly if you have a franchaise it would only sell their products and as anybody in Ireland knows a bar without a Guinness, Carlsberg or Heineken tap is not worth opening regardless of German beers! I have some funds myself but need to find a partner who would be interested in a operation such as this and prepared to invest in it.

Little Alex · 14-04-2012 2:18am

janullrich wrote: »

Thanks for the comments guys. Research has shown that this is a runner. Problem is finance. Banks are not open to it as it is too risky. I looked at a franchaise with the Bavarian Beerhouse who have a few operations in London but they have not replied and secondly if you have a franchaise it would only sell their products and as anybody in Ireland knows a bar without a Guinness, Carlsberg or Heineken tap is not worth opening regardless of German beers! I have some funds myself but need to find a partner who would be interested in a operation such as this and prepared to invest in it.

Hauptsache keine solche Schankpisse!

I personally would love the idea of a pub without their "beer". I think der Ire would be quite receptive to a pub without Guinness' influence. I make it my business not to buy their products.

How much money are they looking for? Are you talking a couple of thousand or a couple of hundred thousand?

Lawrence1895 · 14-04-2012 9:43am

Little Alex wrote: »

Hauptsache keine solche Schankpisse!

I personally would love the idea of a pub without their "beer". I think der Ire would be quite receptive to a pub without Guinness' influence. I make it my business not to buy their products.

How much money are they looking for? Are you talking a couple of thousand or a couple of hundred thousand?

Why not having both Guinness and German beer on offer? Everyone would be catered for, imo

Augmerson · 14-04-2012 10:01am

I generally approve of a German-styled pub in our Fair City. I think the construction of such a pub, certain elements are vital. There should be plenty of space in the pub, not too crowded, good living space, so you don't spill your beer on someone and get in a fight. You also need good sturdy walls. Well, without them, the place would be cold and your customers would wander freely around which is not good. You want your customers to remain within the walls of the pub. You should also perhaps think about installing a vending machine. It's a good idea to put this near the tiolets, perhaps to the Far Right of the tiolets? It would sell things like German sausage and signed pictures of Helmut Kohl.

peasant · 14-04-2012 10:49am

Augmerson wrote: »

I generally approve ...

Witzle g'macht ...koiner g'lacht

Augmerson · 14-04-2012 11:31am

peasant wrote: »

Witzle g'macht ...koiner g'lacht

Your cold sounds awful. May I suggest some Leipzig...I mean Lemsip?

mikemac1 · 14-04-2012 11:36am

Get Erdinger on draft and I'll be there

Louche Lad · 14-04-2012 11:36am

eldwaro wrote: »

get the curry wurst in and ill commute to drink there

Same here

Louche Lad · 14-04-2012 11:54am

janullrich wrote: »

Thanks for the comments guys. Research has shown that this is a runner. Problem is finance. Banks are not open to it as it is too risky. I looked at a franchaise with the Bavarian Beerhouse who have a few operations in London but they have not replied and secondly if you have a franchaise it would only sell their products and as anybody in Ireland knows a bar without a Guinness, Carlsberg or Heineken tap is not worth opening regardless of German beers! I have some funds myself but need to find a partner who would be interested in a operation such as this and prepared to invest in it.

I do hope it will be better than those Irish-themed pubs on the Continent with their excessive fake knick-knacks and awful Guinness. I'm not so sure about staff in lederhosen and dirndl dresses. Whatever option you do come up with, I will certainly visit and will happily publicise if it's any good.

t-ha · 10-07-2012 1:35pm

Purpose-built Fachwerkhaus?!

Wurzelbert · 03-09-2012 11:17am

super idee. ist das noch aktuell oder ist die sache inzwischen gestorben? die idee mit einem deutschen schuppen in dublin hatte ich auch schon…hab halt nur leider keine ahnung vom kneipenbusiness und beschränke mich daher i.d.r. aufs trinken…
sollte das mit dem deutschen laden in dublin was werden, ich würde auf jeden fall hingehen…und ich denke der markt für eine deutsche kneipe wäre da…müsste halt gut gemacht sein, wobei man dabei vermutlich an ein paar deutschland-klischees nicht ganz vorbeikäme…
wichtig wäre natürlich eine ordentliche auswahl deutscher biere, bundesliga und sonstiger deutschland-relevanter sport live (das murray’s ist ja so ein übler saftladen) sowie deutsches essen und hier idealerweise nicht nur bratwürste…sachen wie schupfnudeln mit kraut, belegte seelen, butterbrezen, leberkäs, maultaschen, schnitzel und so…was halt wirtschaftlich machbar ist in dublin…

Thinking of starting German-styled pub in Dublin

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