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Arsenal Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2011/2012

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  • #4252
    Frisbee
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,569 ✭✭✭✭Frisbee


    Galvasean wrote: »
    He scored 2 goals in 8 games according to Wiki and I'm fairly sure they weren't all starts either. Seemed weird how he didn't get played more.

    Not once Hodgson took over.

    "He's less than 6ft and foreign? Take an extended siesta son!"


  • #4253
    jmayo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,186 ✭✭✭✭jmayo


    Frisbee wrote: »
    In Carling Cup, meaningless CL group games and the odd game or two at the end of a season when we've nothing to play for. And even at that most as a sub. 29 of those appearances were in the league, I'd imagine over half of them involved less than ten minutes at the end of a game.

    He was never given a proper chance to put a run of games together. Even when he was the only fit striker at the club. I'm not saying he should be starting for us or our #1 striker. But loaning out Vela and Bendtner in order to keep Chamakh and Park at the club is criminal tbh.

    Jaysus after watching highlights last night of Sunderland where McClean setup Bendyboots for gilt edge chance he put it over the bar.
    For the height of him he should be dominating the box and smashing in headers for fun.

    I know he was played on the wing but even when he does have a chance I don't think he is clinical enough.

    I am not allowed discuss …



  • #4254
    Frisbee
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,569 ✭✭✭✭Frisbee


    jmayo wrote: »
    Jaysus after watching highlights last night of Sunderland where McClean setup Bendyboots for gilt edge chance he put it over the bar.
    For the height of him he should be dominating the box and smashing in headers for fun.

    I know he was played on the wing but even when he does have a chance I don't think he is clinical enough.

    We can do better than Bendtner certainly. But for a #2 striker his record is pretty decent considering he spent a lot of time on the wing.

    Plus he's 10 times better than Chamakh and Park.


  • #4255
    ImpossibleDuck
    Registered Users Posts: 1,154 ✭✭✭ImpossibleDuck


    I think Podolski will be a great signing if he comes and RVP stays. This little dip in RvP's form shows exactly why we need him :)


  • #4256
    Galvasean
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,746 ✭✭✭✭Galvasean


    Can we not just sign Neymar? :pac:


  • #4257
    emergingstar
    Registered Users Posts: 5,756 ✭✭✭emergingstar


    If we make a couple of early signings and RVP puts off signing a contract and a ridiculous offer comes in I just might be open to selling
    Crazy I no


  • #4258
    Redzer7
    Registered Users Posts: 5,209 ✭✭✭Redzer7


    emergingstar wrote: »
    If we make a couple of early signings and RVP puts off signing a contract and a ridiculous offer comes in I just might be open to selling
    Crazy I no

    WHAT!!! Wouldn't settle for less that €200 mil!


  • #4259
    gnfnrhead
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,478 ✭✭✭✭gnfnrhead


    Redzer7 wrote: »
    WHAT!!! Wouldn't settle for less that €200 mil!
    Pretty much this. Unless it's a stupid amount of money, I'd keep him in the hopes of him resigning at some point next season, rather than just sell him.


  • #4260
    greendom
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,382 ✭✭✭✭greendom


    if he doesn't want to sign a new contract we should sell for as much as possible. We also need to get it sorted as soon as possible so we can get replacements in well before the start of the season.

    i really hope lessons were learnt from the last pre-season.


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  • #4261
    KeithAFC
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,239 ✭✭✭✭KeithAFC


    The team certainly needs more fire power and creative threat. Podolski would only be a great signing if we kept Van Persie and added another creative player. Without Van Persie, we have no other options in terms of forwards to score us goals.


  • #4262
    keano_afc
    Registered Users Posts: 8,711 ✭✭✭keano_afc


    I dont think its fanciful to say we could have been better placed if our bench options this season were Vela and Bendtner instead of {Park and Chamakh. RvP has looked jaded for the last few games, and how much game time have our 2 replacements got? About 10 minutes. Its a joke really.


  • #4263
    tsoparno
    Registered Users Posts: 462 ✭✭tsoparno


    jmayo wrote: »
    Jaysus after watching highlights last night of Sunderland where McClean setup Bendyboots for gilt edge chance he put it over the bar.
    For the height of him he should be dominating the box and smashing in headers for fun.

    I know he was played on the wing but even when he does have a chance I don't think he is clinical enough.

    I've a ten yr old who's still scared from the game he missed six gilt edged chances. If he could score with his mouth he'd be on 30 a season for sure.


  • #4264
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    gnfnrhead wrote: »
    He didn't exactly work wonders at West Brom either. I don't think he even managed to make himself first choice there, no offence to West Brom, but what chance has he got at Arsenal then?

    Id agree. Going by his whole body language he never really settled in England. Extremely skillful player if only he could have adjusted to the physicality of the EPL. I felt had he gone to Bolton last year it could have benefitted him more then WBA.


  • #4265
    iMuse
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,975 ✭✭✭iMuse


    RVP is PFA player of the year :D


  • #4266
    Redzer7
    Registered Users Posts: 5,209 ✭✭✭Redzer7


    iMuse wrote: »
    RVP is PFA player of the year :D
    Wasn't really any doubt was there :P


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  • #4267
    Redzer7
    Registered Users Posts: 5,209 ✭✭✭Redzer7


    Lads how the feck have them yids got a forum "Spurs supporter club" and we don't? How do we go about getting one? Haha.


  • #4268
    Sgt Pepper 64
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,627 ✭✭✭Sgt Pepper 64


    Redzer7 wrote: »
    Lads how the feck have them yids got a forum "Spurs supporter club" and we don't? How do we go about getting one? Haha.

    You do know that term you used is very offensive to some and is considered racist?


  • #4269
    Redzer7
    Registered Users Posts: 5,209 ✭✭✭Redzer7


    Sgt Pepper 64 wrote: »
    You do know that term you used is very offensive to some and is considered racist?

    Ah sure they be grand in the morning.


  • #4270
    jordainius
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,654 ✭✭✭jordainius


    Sgt Pepper 64 wrote: »
    You do know that term you used is very offensive to some and is considered racist?

    Oh will you shut up! Spurs supporters often refer to themselves as the yid army, just do a google search on "yid army" and you'll see just how offended Tottenham fans are by the term. There's even a Spurs supporting poster here called KingdomYid. While once upon a time it was used in an offensive way, the response from Tottenham fans was to adopt the term as their own, much like Arsenal fans started to refer to themselves as Gooners after that word being used to mock them for years. (And yeah, I'm fully aware that the origins of the word "yid" are more controversial than the origins of the word gooner)


  • #4271
    Redzer7
    Registered Users Posts: 5,209 ✭✭✭Redzer7


    jordainius wrote: »
    Oh will you shut up! Spurs supporters often refer to themselves as the yid army, just do a google search on "yid army" and you'll see just how offended Tottenham fans are by the term. There's even a Spurs supporting poster here called KingdomYid. While once upon a time it was used in an offensive way, the response from Tottenham fans was to adopt the term as their own, much like Arsenal fans started to refer to themselves as Gooners after that word being used to mock them for years. (And yeah, I'm fully aware that the origins of the word "yid" are more controversial than the origins of the word gooner)

    Exactly this :pac: I'd put up an argument about it but didn't want to give him the satisfaction of getting a rise out of it haha he's a Chelsea fan too I think :pac: No harm intended by the way :).


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  • #4272
    Frisbee
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,569 ✭✭✭✭Frisbee


    keano_afc wrote: »
    I dont think its fanciful to say we could have been better placed if our bench options this season were Vela and Bendtner instead of {Park and Chamakh. RvP has looked jaded for the last few games, and how much game time have our 2 replacements got? About 10 minutes. Its a joke really.

    That's down to Wenger too tbf. Look at the games again Blackburn, Wigan, WBA earlier in the season. Those games were won with 20 minutes to spare but instead of giving Chamakh/Park a run out to try see if they could get some form going RVP plays the full 90. Idiotic.


  • #4273
    tony1kenobi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,748 ✭✭✭tony1kenobi


    Redzer7 wrote: »
    Lads how the feck have them yids got a forum "Spurs supporter club" and we don't? How do we go about getting one? Haha.

    We do have one.I think Quazzie set it up.


  • #4274
    cson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,477 ✭✭✭✭cson


    Frisbee wrote: »
    That's down to Wenger too tbf. Look at the games again Blackburn, Wigan, WBA earlier in the season. Those games were won with 20 minutes to spare but instead of giving Chamakh/Park a run out to try see if they could get some form going RVP plays the full 90. Idiotic.

    Yup, and its starting to show in RVPs performances tbh. He needed a 90mins off here and there or at the very least coming off versus Wolves for example after 60mins.

    Arsene has really dropped the ball on that one I feel, Chamakh and Park get a rough ride off most supporters who dismiss them as crap when in reality they just haven't had any game time. Very harsh on the two players imo and terrible man management from Wenger. It'd deter any second strikers from coming to the club if thats the way they'll be treated tbh.


  • #4275
    gnfnrhead
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,478 ✭✭✭✭gnfnrhead


    cson wrote: »
    Yup, and its starting to show in RVPs performances tbh. He needed a 90mins off here and there or at the very least coming off versus Wolves for example after 60mins.

    Arsene has really dropped the ball on that one I feel, Chamakh and Park get a rough ride off most supporters who dismiss them as crap when in reality they just haven't had any game time. Very harsh on the two players imo and terrible man management from Wenger. It'd deter any second strikers from coming to the club if thats the way they'll be treated tbh.

    Neither player has done anything to warrant game time IMO.

    Plus, van Persie is the captain, I doubt he ever wants to come off or miss games.


  • #4276
    cson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,477 ✭✭✭✭cson


    How can they do anything to warrant game time when they don't get games?

    The captaincy thing should be a non-issue, we've more than enough leaders in that squad imo. Vermaelen, Rosicky and Sagna are all more than capable experienced leaders.

    RVP is burnt out. There I said it. Tried to force everything against Chelsea. He must be on for his record number of matches played in a season this year?


  • #4277
    Frisbee
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,569 ✭✭✭✭Frisbee


    gnfnrhead wrote: »
    Plus, van Persie is the captain, I doubt he ever wants to come off or miss games.

    That's irrelevant tbh. It's great he wants to play every game. But he's our most important player and he's starting to go missing at a vital stage of the season because he's exhausted. Having Bendtner at the club and allowing RVP to sit out, come off or even start some games on the bench would mean he's much fresher.


  • #4278
    Redzer7
    Registered Users Posts: 5,209 ✭✭✭Redzer7


    tony1kenobi wrote: »
    We do have one.I think Quazzie set it up.

    Ah but that's only a group, we get no notifications or anything hence why nobody posts in it :pac: We should have one like this.


  • #4279
    greendom
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,382 ✭✭✭✭greendom


    Ah but then everyone would want one. Far easier solution would be to close the Spurs one down :D


  • #4280
    Redzer7
    Registered Users Posts: 5,209 ✭✭✭Redzer7


    greendom wrote: »
    Ah but then every
    one would want one. Far easier solution would be to close the Spurs one down :D
    Even their charter písses me off
    Arsenal fans are not welcome on this forum. Do not post here, you will be banned without warning.

    That is all.

    :pac::pac:


  • #4281
    greendom
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,382 ✭✭✭✭greendom


    The cheek. I suppose we should leave them to it. They're in enough pain at the moment without us making it worse.


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  • #4282
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Inferiority Complex, you've got to pity them, they are **** afterall.


  • #4283
    jordainius
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,654 ✭✭✭jordainius


    I don't care about their pain! After starting threads like this, they deserve the karma they are currently being served!

    Two quotes in the "The race for 1st,2nd,3rd or 4th (delete as appropriate)" thread (Whoops, forgot to include 5th/6th in that thread title lads:D)
    THFC wrote: »
    3rd, provided Arsenal finished at best 4th, all the livelong day.
    Pageant Messiah wrote: »
    Nothing to be sad about. 3rd means we beat arsenal. That's more important than the cup. Hell I'd take 5th if they were 6th
    Obsessed with us. It's so pathetic! Apparently, finishing ahead of Arsenal was more important than winning the FA cup. And so many posts in that thread refer to Arsenal!! Its ridiculous!

    If Arsenal finish ahead of them in end I look forward to getting myself swiftly banned from the Spurs Supporters Club forum:D


  • #4284
    Minstrel27
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,818 ✭✭✭Minstrel27


    Sgt Pepper 64 wrote: »
    You do know that term you used is very offensive to some and is considered racist?

    Someone should tell Spurs supporters


  • #4285
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    It's a disease of the club, the English Spurs fans are exactly the same as the Irish Spurs fans, constantly obsessed with Arsenal, pretend to be fair fans, but always drop a dig whenever possible.
    They have the right manager anyway.:pac:


  • #4286
    amiable
    Registered Users Posts: 12,206 ✭✭✭✭amiable


    Minstrel27 wrote: »
    Someone should tell Spurs supporters

    That's like saying it's ok to call a black man a ni**er cos they call themselves that


  • #4287
    Minstrel27
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,818 ✭✭✭Minstrel27


    amiable wrote: »
    That's like saying it's ok to call a black man a ni**er cos they call themselves that

    No it's not. Stop being stupid. If you saw me using the term myself then maybe you might have a point but I never have.

    I simply stated the fact that quite a few of them use the term. How that equates to what you suggest is beyond me.


  • #4288
    jordainius
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,654 ✭✭✭jordainius


    amiable wrote: »
    That's like saying it's ok to call a black man a ni**er cos they call themselves that

    No, totally different. You've heard of this thing called "context" haven't you?


  • #4289
    keano_afc
    Registered Users Posts: 8,711 ✭✭✭keano_afc


    greendom wrote: »
    The cheek. I suppose we should leave them to it. They're in enough pain at the moment without us making it worse.

    What annoys me is that there's a thread in here for Spurs gossip/transfer talk etc. Is there own forum not enough? Its almost like they're trying to convince us they're a big club.


  • #4290
    amiable
    Registered Users Posts: 12,206 ✭✭✭✭amiable


    Minstrel27 wrote: »
    No it's not. Stop being stupid. If you saw me using the term myself then maybe you might have a point but I never have.

    I simply stated the fact that quite a few of them use the term. How that equates to what you suggest is beyond me.

    using which term? Yid is an offensive term.

    Just because Spurs fans sing it doesn't make it ok


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  • #4291
    jordainius
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,654 ✭✭✭jordainius


    amiable wrote: »
    using which term? Yid is an offensive term.

    Just because Spurs fans sing it doesn't make it ok

    It's not offensive. You're choosing to be offended. Good luck with that :rolleyes:


  • #4292
    AnCapaillMor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,920 ✭✭✭AnCapaillMor


    RVP 11 wrote: »
    It's a disease of the club, the English Spurs fans are exactly the same as the Irish Spurs fans, constantly obsessed with Arsenal, pretend to be fair fans, but always drop a dig whenever possible.
    They have the right manager anyway.:pac:

    I never really minded them until around the time of lasagnegate, never gave them stick up to then and i got so much stick from them around that time, i've hated them since then. It'll be a great season if we get 3rd and newc get 4th.


  • #4293
    Minstrel27
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,818 ✭✭✭Minstrel27


    amiable wrote: »
    using which term? Yid is an offensive term.

    Just because Spurs fans sing it doesn't make it ok

    I never said it wasn't an offensive term. I also never said it was ok for Spurs supporters or anybody else to use it. Jesus. Stop looking for something that isn't there.


  • #4294
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Let's leave the BS for their thread lads eh?, they want us to be talking about them, as no one else is....:pac:


  • #4295
    jordainius
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,654 ✭✭✭jordainius


    Minstrel27 wrote: »
    I never said it wasn't an offensive term. I also never said it was ok for Spurs supporters or anybody else to use it. Jesus. Stop looking for something that isn't there.
    He doesn't seem to be able to differentiate between Tottenham fans and Jewish people.

    Calling a Tottenham fan a yid is not racially offensive, calling a jew a yid on the other hand is not on.
    RVP 11 wrote: »
    Let's leave the BS for their thread lads eh?, they want us to be talking about them, as no one else is....:pac:
    Actually yeah, agreed!


  • #4296
    amiable
    Registered Users Posts: 12,206 ✭✭✭✭amiable


    jordainius wrote: »
    He doesn't seem to be able to differentiate between Tottenham fans and Jewish people.

    Calling a Tottenham fan a yid is not racially offensive, calling a jew a yid on the other hand is not on.

    Actually yeah, agreed!

    So really you are complimenting Spurs fans?


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  • #4297
    Frisbee
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,569 ✭✭✭✭Frisbee


    Drop it. Arsenal thread.

    Arsenal.

    Please.


  • #4298
    jordainius
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,654 ✭✭✭jordainius


    amiable wrote: »
    So really you are complimenting Spurs fans?
    Where did I say that? Oh wait, I didn't.

    Look, you're choosing to see it as racially motivated, when even a dog with a mallet up its arse can see that the usage of the word yid in this context has absolutely nothing to do with racism. That's your choice, you can try and twist it all you like, it's obviously not used affectionately, rival football fans tend not to refer to each other affectionately, but the way you are choosing to see this is crazy.

    Edit; Sorry Frisbee; delete if you wish, only wish to point out that Arsenal fans do not use that word for racially motivated reasons as is being bizzarely suggested.


  • #4299
    Redzer7
    Registered Users Posts: 5,209 ✭✭✭Redzer7


    As I said in the post after there was no harm intended so just drop it :)
    No point in arguing over what Spurs fans are called anyways :pac:


  • #4300
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Anyone think getting Fletcher from Wolves would be a good idea, now they are going down.


  • #4301
    keano_afc
    Registered Users Posts: 8,711 ✭✭✭keano_afc


    They're called Spurs fans.

    Which, in fairness, is a big enough burden as it is.


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