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Help me find this Nazi-in-Dublin thing on Google Earth!

AARRRGH · 2005-12-09 18:36:06

During the Nazi period the Germans owned a house in the Terenure/Rathfarnham area. It is in the shape of a swastica. It still exists. People never believe me when I tell them this. Can you help me prove I'm not insane? :) Maybe you live in the Terenure/Rathfarnham area. Kind of non-interesting thing I found on Google…

09-12-2005 7:36pm

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During the Nazi period the Germans owned a house in the Terenure/Rathfarnham area. It is in the shape of a swastica. It still exists.

People never believe me when I tell them this.

Can you help me prove I'm not insane? Maybe you live in the Terenure/Rathfarnham area.

Kind of non-interesting thing I found on Google Earth. The picture of Booterstown in Co. Dublin (beside Blackrock) was taken when the circus was there (look near the sea, between the parks.)

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#2 09-12-2005 7:38pm

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Have you seen the house before?

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#3 09-12-2005 7:40pm

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Thought it was in Tempelogue myself...

My geography is poor and Tempelogue may well be beside Rathfarnham/Terenure in which case I am of no assistance whatsoever.

There was definitely a discussion about it fairly recently though.

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#4 09-12-2005 7:41pm

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senordingdong wrote:

Have you seen the house before?

I drove past it with my ex-girlfriends father. He is seriously knowledgeable regarding Irish history (he's obsessed with it.) He told me from the air you can see it is shaped like a swastica.

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#5 09-12-2005 7:42pm

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Its in templeogue. Its unmapped on Google Earth which pisses me off

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#6 09-12-2005 7:42pm

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grimloch wrote:

Thought it was in Tempelogue myself...

My geography is poor and Tempelogue may well be beside Rathfarnham/Terenure in which case I am of no assistance whatsoever.

There was definitely a discussion about it fairly recently though.

Lovely, will do a search, thanks.

Tempelogue/Terenure/Rathfarnham are all close to each other.

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#7 09-12-2005 7:43pm

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got this from somewhere else:
"On templeouge road dublin 6w there is a house that is in the shape of a swastika when viewed from above. I think it was built for a German diplomat back in the 30's".

Hmm, after further reading, looks like a Mythbuster here:
http://www.archiseek.com/content/showthread.php?t=480

I asked on another non-architecture board of mine to see if anyone from the area knew of it and this is what i got.

"Well the house is NOT shaped like a swastika. There is a house near by that looks like a small castle and it is normally confused with the one that is being talked about.

The one you are looking for is a small house that had a swastika painted onto the roof. It is right on the corner of Hyde Park and Fortfield Road.

The swastika is long since gone.. Here is a link to the mapflow site that shows the house right in the center of the picture.
http://interactive2.iol.ie/MAPS/iolm...ageformat=jpeg

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#8 09-12-2005 7:47pm

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It was the Residence of Dr Edward Hemple. The non-nazi german diplomat to Ireland . He was pro Irish neutraility and cultivated good realtion with DeVelera .

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#9 09-12-2005 8:11pm

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It's not on Google Earth. It's a house between Terenure College and Templeogue Village on the Templeogue Road. If you're coming from Terenure (heading Tallaght bound) it's on the right hand side before the lights. It's a white house. I've never seen it from above but have heard the Nazi story many times. Just waiting for ****ing Google to add some satellite imagery for that area, my house in Knocklyon is also unmapped.

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#10 09-12-2005 8:22pm

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I live about 100m away from the house. It's on the border of Terenure and Templeogue. It doesn't actually look like a swastica any more because of extensions that have been builit on to it, I believe. I'll try get a grid reference for it on google earth.

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#11 09-12-2005 8:25pm

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www.myhome.ie has an aerial view on their search/map for areas not covered by google earth.
You seem to lose the option after first go, so have a second street map open.

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#12 09-12-2005 8:34pm

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Thanks all for your help. Much appreciated!

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#13 09-12-2005 8:35pm

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Here you go.

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#14 09-12-2005 8:48pm

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If you're going to do it, do it right.

US Naval Base, Coronado, near San Diego, CA.

http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3642/353/400/sd_nazi.jpg

NTM

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#15 09-12-2005 8:52pm

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Manic Moran wrote:

If you're going to do it, do it right.

US Naval Base, Coronado, near San Diego, CA.

http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3642/353/400/sd_nazi.jpg

NTM

Lol!

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#16 09-12-2005 9:00pm

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Manic Moran wrote:

If you're going to do it, do it right.

US Naval Base, Coronado, near San Diego, CA.

http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3642/353/400/sd_nazi.jpg

NTM

"Nazi Gaff!"

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#17 09-12-2005 9:32pm

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Manic Moran wrote:

If you're going to do it, do it right.

US Naval Base, Coronado, near San Diego, CA.

http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3642/353/400/sd_nazi.jpg

NTM

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The requested URL could not be retrieved
While trying to retrieve the URL: http://localhost:10141/blogger/3642/353/400/sd_nazi.jpg

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#18 09-12-2005 10:01pm

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Yeah it is a big white house between terenure and tempelogue. If you go to terenure college and start walking towards templogue village it will be on the right-hand side half-way down the road. It doesnt really look like the shape of a swaztika from the outside unless you look closely.

Im told the reason it was built like this is that a german lived there in the 30's and wanted his house shaped like that as if the germans went to war with ireland they would not bomb him.

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#19 09-12-2005 10:05pm

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biko wrote:

ERROR
The requested URL could not be retrieved
While trying to retrieve the URL: http://localhost:10141/blogger/3642/353/400/sd_nazi.jpg

Copy the link and paste it into a new browser window. Photoblogger prevents direct linking.

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#20 28-07-2006 3:27pm

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Sorry to drag this old thread back up...

But look steve you're famous!

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/07/28/google_earth_swastika/

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#21 28-07-2006 3:28pm

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We have a google earth forum now, don't we?

Edit: Everyone calm down, I found it.

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#22 28-07-2006 3:47pm

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I don't see anything like a swastika. I checked on www.sdcc.ie follow the planning application maps link. Maybe it's unrecognisable now due to extensions that a previous poster mentioned.

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#23 28-07-2006 4:13pm

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hello register readers!

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#24 28-07-2006 4:19pm

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joe_chicken wrote:

Sorry to drag this old thread back up...

But look steve you're famous!

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/07/28/google_earth_swastika/

Ha! nice find.

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#25 28-07-2006 4:41pm

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I still can't see my house on it
I can get near it but then they seemed to have stopped the detail! Damn it I just wanna see my roof and feel all cool.

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#26 28-07-2006 6:50pm

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Slurms wrote:

I still can't see my house on it
I can get near it but then they seemed to have stopped the detail! Damn it I just wanna see my roof and feel all cool.

It's because of all the hardcore porn you keep on the roof.

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#27 28-07-2006 8:31pm

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monkeyfudge wrote:

It's because of all the hardcore porn you keep on the roof.

You mean they can see that? :eek:

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#28 30-07-2006 7:50pm

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As far as i know is beside temeplogue college, an area which is blurred.

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#29 30-07-2006 8:59pm

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Yara Hollow Theatre wrote:

As far as i know is beside temeplogue college, an area which is blurred.

Have a look here > http://www.sdublincoco.ie/sdcc_PMo/default.asp

I can't see any Swastika - but I can see my house which is blurred on Google Earth:D

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#30 30-07-2006 11:47pm

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http://www.archiseek.com/content/showpost.php?p=3205&postcount=8

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#31 30-07-2006 11:58pm

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Yara Hollow Theatre wrote:

http://www.archiseek.com/content/showpost.php?p=3205&postcount=8

http://boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=50516064&postcount=7

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#32 31-07-2006 12:11am

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Of course the Swastika was just a Roman symbol for Life Bringing River that Hitler adopted!

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#33 31-07-2006 12:19am

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Its not on Google Earth, the photos stop about 30 yards away from it. And it doesnt really look like a swastica anymore.

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#34 31-07-2006 8:53am

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Never heard of a swastika-shaped house in Templeogue, but there was a laundrette in Ballsbridge called the Swastika cleaners. I remember they had the swastika in red on wither side of the name.

I think it's more or less where the modern Iona Technologies building is now
-OR- "a stone's throw from the US Embassy" - boom boom!

Or is this all just ARSE?! The swastika was pinched (and reversed) by Hitler from the (post-Indo/Aryan) Indians! You'll see it all over Asia in buildings and temples which date back THOUSANDS OF YEARS!!!

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#35 31-07-2006 10:29am

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dazmoriarty wrote:

swastika was pinched (and reversed) by Hitler from the (post-Indo/Aryan) Indians! You'll see it all over Asia in buildings and temples which date back THOUSANDS OF YEARS!!!

Yes, Hitler borrowed the symbol from the ancient Indians, but it was not reversed by him. There are actually two symbols, the one he used, and one that was its opposite (reverse). The one he used was destructive, whereas, the reverse was constructive.

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#36 31-07-2006 11:14am

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Hey Lads! I have just been up on my roof (terenure) and discovered a "Star of David" shadow!! What do you think?

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#37 31-07-2006 4:19pm

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krazy_8s wrote:

Its not on Google Earth, the photos stop about 30 yards away from it. And it doesnt really look like a swastica anymore.

I think it is - try 53deg 18min 01.24secs N - 6deg 17mins 59.99 secs W. It is right on the edge of the blurred bit....;)

I am old enough to remember my parents pointing it out to me - when we were heading for the 'country' - it was (in the 50's) the last house before Templeogue village - which was in the country according to Dubs of the time!!

It doesn't much look like a swastika now, I never heard that aspect of it, but it was built in the 30's and my parents said that German spies were caught there... probably a mis-read of the fact it was a German who owned it....I pass it regularly in the bus and always remember the 'history'

Funny coincidence, got on to this thread because of the Register item, my daughter lives in Maastrich and her partner used to live in Maasmechlen, the place where the swastika pool was 'discovered' Small sort of world....

BTW is the blurry bit because Google isn't up to date or they cannot get access to the Ordnance Survey's latest images?

Bye, Barry

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#38 01-08-2006 4:05pm

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BarryM wrote:

BTW is the blurry bit because Google isn't up to date or they cannot get access to the Ordnance Survey's latest images?

Ordnance Survey? I'm pretty sure that the Ordnance Survey doesn't have it's own satellite!

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#39 01-08-2006 5:24pm

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Foxwood wrote:

Ordnance Survey? I'm pretty sure that the Ordnance Survey doesn't have it's own satellite!

but they do have a number of planes used for taking low level aerial photography- including a hi-rez digital camera and a LIDAR (laser imaging) camera.

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#40 01-08-2006 5:33pm

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Speaking of aerially visual National Socialist ephemera, remember the Nazi forest?

Different coloured trees were planted during the Third Reich in a forest to make out a swastika. It was only discovered a number of years after the war.

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#41 03-08-2006 5:18pm

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The House is on Googlearth though its a little blurred. Follow the road between Terenure village going to Templeogue Village. Just past Bushy Park on the Terneure College side of the road cross Fortfield road and along that line of houses just before the Templeogue road crossroads you'll see the blurred white house in the middle. It is not shaped like a swastika but it did have beacons on the roof during the war in the shape of the nazi logo. The nazi sympathisers who owned the house originally sold the house after the war and the beacons were removed. The current occupants are not fascists.

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#42 03-08-2006 6:48pm

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Ruprekt wrote:

The current occupants are not fascists.

I would love to see estate agents put that phrase in one of their floral descriptions of house.

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#43 03-08-2006 6:58pm

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Ruprekt wrote:

The House is on Googlearth though its a little blurred. Follow the road between Terenure village going to Templeogue Village. Just past Bushy Park on the Terneure College side of the road cross Fortfield road and along that line of houses just before the Templeogue road crossroads you'll see the blurred white house in the middle. It is not shaped like a swastika but it did have beacons on the roof during the war in the shape of the nazi logo. The nazi sympathisers who owned the house originally sold the house after the war and the beacons were removed. The current occupants are not fascists.

Hard to believe but it's true, the present owners are Jewish.

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#44 03-08-2006 9:09pm

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It is on google earth.. its just kind of blurred and not actually very swastika shaped at all.

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#45 03-08-2006 9:16pm

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This thread must have set some sort of record. 43 posts 14,311 views

Mike.

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#46 05-08-2006 6:01pm

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Foxwood wrote:

Ordnance Survey? I'm pretty sure that the Ordnance Survey doesn't have it's own satellite!

Neither does Google:rolleyes: - they buy/borrow/steal? the images from the owners/originators. Most (European) Ordnance Surveys or their equivalent now realise the value of what they own and don't allow the likes of Google E to just grab the images for nuttin. Even the CoCos have to pay for the license and even then they are not authorised to offer anything very detailed for access on their websites and afaik licensees are obliges to block copy of the images.

Bye, Barry

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#47 12-10-2008 5:24pm

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The house is not in a shape of a swastica and never was. Although it was once owned my a nazi sympatiser. When he lived there he did in fact get the swastica sign tiled into the floor of his entrance hallway.

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#48 12-10-2008 5:32pm

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That's a swing and a miss!

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#49 12-10-2008 5:43pm

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Now all we need is for someone to drag this thread up in 2009 !

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#50 12-10-2008 5:49pm

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Smooch08 wrote: »

The house is not in a shape of a swastica and never was. Although it was once owned my a nazi sympatiser. When he lived there he did in fact get the swastica sign tiled into the floor of his entrance hallway.

Nice to know.

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#51 12-10-2008 6:00pm

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Used to pass that place on my daily commute home (very slow so plenty of time to look around)

Always thought it was a very unusual house for the area.

Just goes to show, fascinating history in Dublin when you delve into it.

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