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Teen Porn

  • 24-02-2008 4:47pm
    #1
    LegacyUser
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭


    I was using my boyfriend's laptop earlier and I noticed some things that had been searched for in google. Some of them were harmless enough searches like 'teenies', 'teen pu**y' etc. One really grabbed my attention though - 'very young girls'.

    I've no problem with porn at all and I can't understand girls who go mad when they find out their boyfriend watches/uses porn. The teeney bit I can handle. I'm looking for comments on the 'very young girls' search. I really don't like this.

    Is this absolutely terrible? Or is it a case of a bad call during a 'heated moment'?

    I didn't say anything to him because I wanted to get my head around it first. Also, the other lads he lives with use the computer too.


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  • #2
    Lambsbread
    Closed Accounts Posts: 442 ✭✭Lambsbread


    I would not look to deeply into this. Fair enough, all guys look at porn and you seem okay with that (in some way).

    You seem to be thinking about this too much though. If the search had "early teen" or something in it then i would be more concerned. As you say also, it could have been any of the other people he lives with.

    I'd give him the benefit of the doubt this time. If you still upset then confront him in a joky way about it. Like the next time you use the computer say "Oh my God, who is looking for yound girls on the internet?" Judge his reaction then!


  • #3
    AARRRGH
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,382 ✭✭✭✭AARRRGH


    That's dodgy alright, although it could have been one of the other lads he lives with.

    If you look at his "temporary internet files" you might be able to see when those sites were accessed. If he was home alone at that time...


  • #4
    Ciaran500
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,225 ✭✭✭Ciaran500


    TBH I wouldn't worry about it unless its more than just one search word. What he was searching for and what you think that sound like might be completely different.


  • #5
    Cheeky_gal
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,166 ✭✭✭Cheeky_gal


    Eh, would that not be considered complete paedophilia? :confused:


  • #6
    Webmonkey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,579 ✭✭✭Webmonkey


    I would not look into this much at all. He was probably so horny and wanted to be bad and try find some 17 year old girl or something meaning she was under 18 - probably would have turned him on more. Almost certain he was not looking to find children if that is what you were thinking as he would have probably used different keywords.

    Anyways I would not worry about it!


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  • #7
    paul666
    Closed Accounts Posts: 412 ✭✭paul666


    i would be very worried about that
    it sounds to me like he was looking for pictures of very young girls
    how young were the girls is the important question
    and u should investigate this further


  • #8
    Cheeky_gal
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,166 ✭✭✭Cheeky_gal


    Webmonkey wrote: »
    I would not look into this much at all. He was probably so horny and wanted to be bad and try find some 17 year old girl or something meaning she was under 18 - probably would have turned him on more. Almost certain he was not looking to find children if that is what you were thinking as he would have probably used different keywords.

    Anyways I would not worry about it!

    haha eh hello!?


  • #9
    Webmonkey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,579 ✭✭✭Webmonkey


    Just noticed it was very young girls - Didn't see the very in there. Hmm


  • #10
    Webmonkey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,579 ✭✭✭Webmonkey


    That is true - OP, it all depends on what he thinks is very young. I doubt he is into what you are hoping he is not.


  • #11
    paul666
    Closed Accounts Posts: 412 ✭✭paul666


    Mr.S wrote: »
    very young girls could be 18 though.
    op u should check the internet temporary files
    if you see that he has been looking at child pornography, contact the gardai


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  • #12
    Ciaran500
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,225 ✭✭✭Ciaran500


    I guarntee if he was searching in for that google he wasn't going to find child porn.


  • #13
    Tar.Aldarion
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,104 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tar.Aldarion


    I note he did not use the word child.


  • #14
    togster
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,931 ✭✭✭togster


    im sorry but "very" would bother me. of course he was looking for underage porn. thinking anything else is fooling yourself.


  • #15
    Webmonkey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,579 ✭✭✭Webmonkey


    togster wrote: »
    im sorry but "very" would bother me. of course he was looking for underage porn. thinking anything else is fooling yourself.
    eh? - how you arrive at that - Talk about a wild accusation


  • #16
    paul666
    Closed Accounts Posts: 412 ✭✭paul666


    Ciaran500 wrote: »
    I guarntee if he was searching in for that google he wasn't going to find child porn.
    lol and how do you no that?

    I cant believe some peoples posts on this. In my opinion I would investigate this further. And take it very seriously.


  • #17
    Ciaran500
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,225 ✭✭✭Ciaran500


    togster wrote: »
    im sorry but "very" would bother me. of course he was looking for underage porn. thinking anything else is fooling yourself.
    1. We don't even know if he was the one who searched for it.
    2. Theres no way you can say with any certainty at all he was searching for underage porn, I wouldn't go jumping to such a damaging conclusion based on one search. If you looked through my search history I'm sure you'd find alot of odd things that could be taken out of context. Maybe he was just looking for a suitable image to reply to a thread with, I do it all the time.

    e.g. http://img523.imageshack.us/img523/966/istockphoto2152620veryyon1.jpg
    paul666 wrote: »
    lol and how do you no that?
    http://www.chillingeffects.org/notice.cgi?sID=2763
    Google isn't one for leaving child porn results in their index.


  • #18
    Susannahmia
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,229 ✭✭✭Susannahmia


    WellHolyGod wrote: »
    I was using my boyfriend's laptop earlier and I noticed some things that had been searched for in google. Some of them were harmless enough searches like 'teenies', 'teen pu**y' etc. One really grabbed my attention though - 'very young girls'.

    I've no problem with porn at all and I can't understand girls who go mad when they find out their boyfriend watches/uses porn. The teeney bit I can handle. I'm looking for comments on the 'very young girls' search. I really don't like this.

    Is this absolutely terrible? Or is it a case of a bad call during a 'heated moment'?

    I didn't say anything to him because I wanted to get my head around it first. Also, the other lads he lives with use the computer too.

    I would be worried. Look in his recently viewed web pages and you might get more of an idea of what the content is.


  • #19
    AARRRGH
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,382 ✭✭✭✭AARRRGH


    It's possible he's interested in "jailbait". These are teenage girls, clothed, showing a lot of skin or in suggestive poses. It's very different than child porn, but it's still a bit dodgy alright.

    What age is your boyfriend OP?


  • #20
    togster
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,931 ✭✭✭togster


    Ciaran500 wrote: »
    If you looked through my search history I'm sure you'd find alot of odd things that could be taken out of context.

    yeah mine too. but you wouldn't find anything with "very young girls" on it. Im sorry but i would never search "very young girls" because i suspect some of the results i would get would be suspect to say the least. My interpretation of very young would be under 18. An 18 y o is an adult, albeit a young woman not a young girl


  • #21
    spinandscribble
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,000 ✭✭✭spinandscribble


    thats it. its the girl bit. very young woman is 18 maybe even 17. 'girls' a completely different ball game.


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  • #22
    Chucky the tree
    Closed Accounts Posts: 19,341 ✭✭✭✭Chucky the tree


    WellHolyGod wrote: »
    Also, the other lads he lives with use the computer too.




    This part seems too of gone over everyone's head.


  • #23
    LegacyUser
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    The mixed responses match what's going on in my head. At one end I'm thinking 'wow, that's way out of order wtf!' and at the other end I'm thinking 'he picked an ambiguous search term while looking for legal porn'.

    He's not very net-savvy, leading to more confusion:
    A. If he was looking for child porn, he may well have thought he would get if from google
    B. As noted by another user, he didn't include the word 'child' or any sexual term in the search -although 'girl' to me is a female under 18
    C. He doesn't post on forums so I can't think of any other reason why he would be searching for 'very young girls'. It was definitely a sexual thing.

    There were no other searches for anything other than teens, which is a relief.

    He's 30btw so it is possible that a 'young girl' to him is one of the legal age. A 'very young girl', I'm not so sure.

    When there are any rape cases in the media (I don't mean just underage) he reacts like 'that bastard, if anyone did anything like that to my sister I'd ****ing kill him'. I don't think he's a sexual deviant but the fact remains that he did search for 'very young girls' (assuming it was him, not one of the other lads).

    How do I check temporary internet files? I had a quick look on my own laptop there and can't figure it out. Will looking in the history help? Or, God forbid, if there was anything untoward looked at, will this just bring it up for me? I dont' want that!


  • #24
    pickarooney
    Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 35,489 Mod ✭✭✭✭pickarooney


    He may have been looking into purchasing a gift for a niece. None of the words 'very' 'young' and 'girls' are overtly sexual although it might be a tad disingenuous to suggest this.


  • #25
    ApeXaviour
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,523 ✭✭✭ApeXaviour


    Cheeky_gal wrote: »
    Eh, would that not be considered complete paedophilia? :confused:
    Paedophilia is the sexual attraction to children. Prepubescence being a requirement. Finding a sexually mature teenage girl physically appealing is normal. Acting on it however, if they're below the age of consent is statutory "rape". People guilty of this crime are not labeled paedophiles or child molesters. Nor are they sick, they're usually just idiots.

    A lot of porn is labeled "Teen". It usually means 18-20 year old girls that happen to look young. It's a pretty innocent thing to be looking at IMO.
    Chucky the tree wrote:
    This part seems too of gone over everyone's head
    Indeed.


  • #26
    Nerin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,523 ✭✭✭✭Nerin


    ok,phew every time i go to reply a new post catches my eye.that and goddamed timeouts.
    OP if i were you i'd do some more sleuthing, i dunno what your area of computer expertise is though, but everyone probably knows that you never really totally delete something of a computer. (well almost never)
    i did my social studies assignment of child pornography and the like in college, and people are often caught out.
    that said i wouldnt jump to the conclusion (at least for now) that thats what he(or housemate) was up to.
    Also, theres a whole series of porn on the internet called teen porn,and the models/actresses whatever, are all 18 +. its just they look younger (theres disclaimers and crap)
    Jailbait is still dodgey is correct.
    (found that out when posting some of the humor posters joking about jailbait and got me an infraction.then again i found out at least one of the models was one of those "teen models" and 20 lol)
    Tweeny porn (i kid you not) was a term in the papers a good bit, and that crap is totally illegal.(Tween as in between teen)

    'very young girls'. however is a very worrying search to come across and i totally understand why you'd freak out. but dont give the game away so to speak (if he's done nothing wrong,trust issues may arise/if he has,he could cover his tracks).
    if you want to go down the road of reporting him,there is an irish branch for such things, i'll go dig out that essay and find the links and info.


  • #27
    randylonghorn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,509 ✭✭✭✭randylonghorn


    Tar.Aldarion wrote: »
    I note he did not use the word child.
    Spot on the nose.

    OP, if whoever put in those search terms was looking for child porn, would they not have searched for that, or for similar terms?

    While I can understand your being concerned, I would be slow to jump to conclusions.


  • #28
    paul666
    Closed Accounts Posts: 412 ✭✭paul666


    is there a computer expert out there that could show this girl how to get into his internet history.
    sorry im not that good on that kind of stuff


  • #29
    AARRRGH
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,382 ✭✭✭✭AARRRGH


    Assuming he's using Internet Explorer...

    Open Internet Explorer

    Tools -> Internet Options

    In the "Browsing History" section in the middle of the screen click "Settings"

    Click "View Files" on the right of the screen.

    A window will pop up.

    Have a look at the websites in there. Note some of the "Internet Address" links may be from banner adverts which are hosted somewhere else, i.e. it doesn't mean he definitely went to that Internet Address himself.


  • #30
    AlmightyCushion
    Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 35,100 Mod ✭✭✭✭AlmightyCushion


    WellHolyGod wrote: »
    He doesn't post on forums so I can't think of any other reason why he would be searching for 'very young girls'. It was definitely a sexual thing.

    That's ridiculous. Because he doesn't post in forums, then it means it's definitely a sexual thing. Would you think it was sexual if he searched for donkey, bicycle or oven mitt?

    When you say you "noticed some things in google" I presume you mean the autocomplete kicked in (it's the box that drops down when you start typing). If so then those terms could have been typed in there at any stage during the life of the computer by anyone who has used it.


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  • #31
    AARRRGH
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,382 ✭✭✭✭AARRRGH


    I think it's fair to assume, at least for the sake of this topic, that he was searching for porn, or some kind of sexual content.


  • #32
    old boy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,658 ✭✭✭old boy


    there is another thing that he could put in the search engine if he was into that stuff i am not going to mention it here


  • #33
    AlmightyCushion
    Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 35,100 Mod ✭✭✭✭AlmightyCushion


    dublindude wrote: »
    I think it's fair to assume, at least for the sake of this topic, that he was searching for porn, or some kind of sexual content.

    I wouldn't think so. He was at one stage searching for porn but there is no way we can know if he was searching for "Teen pussy" around the same time he was searching for "very young children". The time between those searches could have been seconds, minute, months even years apart.


  • #34
    LegacyUser
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    AlmightyCushion wrote: »
    That's ridiculous. Because he doesn't post in forums, then it means it's definitely a sexual thing. Would you think it was sexual if he searched for donkey, bicycle or oven mitt

    Sorry, I didn't make that clear. It sounds totally ridiculous when it's read on it's own!
    Someone had said that maybe he was looking for an innocent pic or something to post on a forum, hence my stating that he doesn't use forums (fora??). I should have quoted the post I was referring to.


    I'm still waiting on my last post to show up.

    Thanks for tech info but he uses Firefox.


  • #35
    AARRRGH
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,382 ✭✭✭✭AARRRGH


    Yes, I suppose that's a possibility. I hope so anyway!


  • #36
    Lockstep
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,031 ✭✭✭Lockstep


    Meh, look at his history, thats about it.


    Very young girls is suspect but hardly damning porn evidence.

    Child porn would be more staggering revelation.


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  • #37
    Webmonkey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,579 ✭✭✭Webmonkey


    kickoutthejams wrote: »
    Meh, look at his history, thats about it.


    Very young girls is suspect but hardly damning porn evidence.

    Child porn would be more staggering revelation.
    And even at that, I know some guys that would mess about this kinda thing and could 'set' someone up thinking it is funny (clearly it isn't) - Absolutely no proof here what so ever - OP if it is bothering you so much just ask him - if not then leave it go because more than likely its nothing. People are very quick to jump to conclusions here.


  • #38
    Marksie
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,395 ✭✭✭Marksie


    Why dont you ask him?

    rather than digging around in his computer...

    If you have an open communication you can just ask.


  • #39
    AlmightyCushion
    Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 35,100 Mod ✭✭✭✭AlmightyCushion


    WellHolyGod wrote: »
    Sorry, I didn't make that clear. It sounds totally ridiculous when it's read on it's own!
    Someone had said that maybe he was looking for an innocent pic or something to post on a forum, hence my stating that he doesn't use forums (fora??). I should have quoted the post I was referring to.

    I seen the post you were referring to, what I meant was that there could be any number of non-sexual reasons he was searching for that term.

    WellHolyGod wrote: »
    Thanks for tech info but he uses Firefox.

    Hold Ctrl and press "H". This will open the history.


  • #40
    LegacyUser
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    Marksie wrote: »
    Why dont you ask him?

    rather than digging around in his computer...

    If you have an open communication you can just ask.

    Ya, I'll ask him tomorrow when I see him - might do some snooping first though!
    AlmightyCushion wrote: »

    Hold Ctrl and press "H". This will open the history.

    Thanks and congrats on your 10,000th post, priviledged that you used it on me!


  • #41
    rubadub
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,382 ✭✭✭✭rubadub


    ApeXaviour wrote: »
    Paedophilia is the sexual attraction to children. Prepubescence being a requirement. Finding a sexually mature teenage girl physically appealing is normal. Acting on it however, if they're below the age of consent is statutory "rape". People guilty of this crime are not labeled paedophiles or child molesters. Nor are they sick, they're usually just idiots.

    A lot of porn is labeled "Teen". It usually means 18-20 year old girls that happen to look young. It's a pretty innocent thing to be looking at IMO.
    Good post. You will see in videos women 30 odd and then claiming to be "just gone 18". He could seriously have been looking for women/girls of 18-21. People are getting hung up on the word "girl" too, I know women in work of 35-45 who call each other girls. "very" could simply be another filter tool, maybe not.

    It could well have been a joke too, with lads in the house. Also seems a bit of a "father ted" attempt to search for true paedophillia. I know lads who set peoples home pages to dodgy sites as a joke. And lads who are on the laptop, leave the room and come back to a google search like that. Yes it is not a joking matter, and they would probably never joke about it in front of women or people outside their group- I am just saying fact is lads can joke about such things.

    There was a talk show on living today with a real paedophile who had a website giving tips, was very disturbing, chilling comments from him, thought he was doing no real wrong. Thought the host was going to smack him at one stage, the host was the "bouncer" from the jerry springer show, big intense lad.


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  • #42
    Placebo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,070 ✭✭✭Placebo


    Please stop snooping on your boyfriend.
    You should be happy hes doesnt look at porn much or hed be smart enough to search for barley legal [i read it somewhere ;)] and not very young girls.
    He did not mention the word child etc,

    and i would say this thread is being picked up by every anti-paedo police webcrawler out there !

    lockie !


  • #43
    branners69
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,707 ✭✭✭branners69


    Marksie wrote: »
    Why dont you ask him?

    rather than digging around in his computer...

    If you have an open communication you can just ask.

    This is the best and only advice you should take from this thread, be open and dont accuse him when you ask him.

    Have a clear mind and listen to his answer, dont have the answer already in your head!

    Best of luck!


  • #44
    paul666
    Closed Accounts Posts: 412 ✭✭paul666


    im not too sure about asking him. i think he should only be approached if u had concrete evidence
    who would admit to looking for that kind of porn


  • #45
    Dudess
    Closed Accounts Posts: 37,214 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    Ok, this is assuming that the searches were made by your boyfriend, not his housemates.
    WellHolyGod wrote: »
    Some of them were harmless enough searches like 'teenies', 'teen pu**y' etc.
    I'd have absolutely no problem with my boyfriend watching porn either, but "teen pussy"? That is not something I'd like to see. And who's to say these teens aren't 15? I'd consider it rather sad of my boyfriend to go searching for sexual imagery featuring females who are barely women. People can reply all they want that it's the norm, but it isn't really. I mean fair enough for a guy to find a mature-looking 16-year-old physically attractive, but she looks older than 16. If a guy finds a "young looking" 16-year-old physically attractive well I'd consider that problematic. And for websites to feature such girls and marketing their young age as one of the chief attractions, well then that is borderline paedophilia.

    As for the "very young girls" thing - it might only mean 17-year-olds but then again it might mean much younger. Anyway, if "very young girls" means 17-year-olds to him, wouldn't they be covered in the "teen pussy" search?

    And considering his use of the above "beautiful" search term, it's naive of posters to suggest that his "very young girls" search is for non-sexual purposes.


  • #46
    Webmonkey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,579 ✭✭✭Webmonkey


    Nothing wrong with teen pu**y - that is a very regular thing out in the porn world.


  • #47
    Dudess
    Closed Accounts Posts: 37,214 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    Webmonkey wrote: »
    Nothing wrong with teen pu**y - that is a very regular thing out in the porn world.
    So what if it's regular and the "norm"? Doesn't mean there's nothing wrong with it. And how old exactly are these teens?


  • #48
    AARRRGH
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,382 ✭✭✭✭AARRRGH


    OP can you tell us roughly what age your boyfriend is?

    Like, is he 45? 18?

    Is he a teenager himself?


  • #49
    Webmonkey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,579 ✭✭✭Webmonkey


    Dudess wrote: »
    So what if it's regular and the "norm"? Doesn't mean there's nothing wrong with it. And how old exactly are these teens?
    Teens i suppose are 18/19 (Teenager and legal) - but the porn world is plastered with 'teen' - guess it turns on people and makes the industry money. Anyways I would see searching for young girls worse than searching for teen this, teen that.

    But yes I think she did mention he was around 30 years old somewhere - I dunno if that makes things worse.


  • #50
    Nerin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,523 ✭✭✭✭Nerin


    Dudess wrote: »
    So what if it's regular and the "norm"? Doesn't mean there's nothing wrong with it. And how old exactly are these teens?

    for the legal above board stuff its 18 19 and (pretending they aint) 20.
    its the non legal "is it CP is it not CP that is the issue."


  • #51
    randylonghorn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,509 ✭✭✭✭randylonghorn


    Dudess wrote: »
    And how old exactly are these teens?
    Dudess, I have seen women who were blatantly over 30 described as "teens" on websites on the basis of a ponytail, a school skirt and a badly assumed "innocent" expression.

    You have to remember that the world of p0rn, and especially of web p0rn, bears no relationship to reality whatsoever.

    Which is why I partly wonder if the OP or one of his housemates, coming in half-shot one night, and confronted with a few such sites with predominantly mutton dressed as lamb, may have thrown "very young girls" into the search box in frustration, and without really thinking it through.


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