Mrs Brown's Boys has just won a BAFTA!

Sir Oxman · 27-05-2012 8:19pm #1

I shít you not!

Well done!

du Maurier · 27-05-2012 8:24pm

Hard to believe, that! He looked like a proper little bellend as well with those luminous green specs attached to his head and his equally laughable dickie bow.

LizT · 27-05-2012 8:24pm

Fair play, fúck the begrudgers!!

RayM · 27-05-2012 10:06pm

lizt wrote: »

Fair play, fúck the begrudgers!!

I'm sorry, but disliking that sort of lowest-common-denominator drivel really does not make someone a begrudger. It's horrifically bad. I know Fresh Meat, Rev and Friday Night Dinner aren't to everybody's taste, but the idea that they could be deemed inferior to a man who dresses as an old woman, falls over a lot and uses the word "fuck" as a punchline... well, it's just ludicrous.

27-05-2012 10:08pm

RayM wrote: »

I'm sorry, but disliking that sort of lowest-common-denominator drivel really does not make someone a begrudger. It's horrifically bad. I know Fresh Meat, Rev and Friday Night Dinner aren't to everybody's taste, but the idea that they could be deemed inferior to such unfunny crap is just ludicrous.

Are you havin' a laff?

Is he havin' a laff!?

You're havin' a laff!

phasers · 27-05-2012 10:59pm

remember, the only way is Essex has a BAFTA. The awards are fairly meaningless.

27-05-2012 11:21pm

People like Coldplay and voted for the Nazis. You can't trust people.

Tigerbaby · 27-05-2012 11:25pm

Deleted User wrote: »

People like Coldplay and voted for the Nazis. You can't trust people.

class!

LizT · 27-05-2012 11:41pm

RayM wrote: »

I'm sorry, but disliking that sort of lowest-common-denominator drivel really does not make someone a begrudger. It's horrifically bad. I know Fresh Meat, Rev and Friday Night Dinner aren't to everybody's taste, but the idea that they could be deemed inferior to a man who dresses as an old woman, falls over a lot and uses the word "fuck" as a punchline... well, it's just ludicrous.

You may think it's ludicrous but millions of viewers disagree. Should you just discount their opinions because it's not your type of comedy?

I personally don't find it that funny but obviously other people do and I say fair play to them for making such a success of it.

Paparazzo · 27-05-2012 11:45pm

lizt wrote: »

You may think it's ludicrous but millions of viewers disagree. Should you just discount their opinions because it's not your type of comedy?

Yes. It's tripe.

mike65 · 27-05-2012 11:49pm

You can't argue with the numbers - Manchester Utd, Avatar, Titanic, Adele, Billy Ray Cyrus, the Eurovison Song Contest, the Late Late Show :eek: Most people have pretty lousy non discriminating taste most of the time.

Joekers · 27-05-2012 11:52pm

To be fair if you can understand it then it's fairly ducking funny ! I love it. Fair play to him

RobbingBandit · 27-05-2012 11:52pm

Deleted User wrote: »

People like Coldplay and voted for the Nazis. You can't trust people.

I am so stealing this.

28-05-2012 12:03am

RobbingBandit wrote: »

I am so stealing this.

I'm disappointed in you for not recognising it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=93WRQ8HT_WA

expectationlost · 28-05-2012 1:24am

bafta's is supposed to award the best not the one most watched

JonathanAnon · 28-05-2012 1:48am

Acceptance Speech.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ilb_1EP4NRY

loldog · 28-05-2012 2:04am

Well, it's not my cup of tea but it seems lots of people like it so they're doing a good job of delivering light entertainment. I'm sure the award must mean a lot to Mr O'Carroll so I'm happy for him.

I don't see what's wrong with Coldplay either.

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RayM · 28-05-2012 3:01am

lizt wrote: »

You may think it's ludicrous but millions of viewers disagree. Should you just discount their opinions because it's not your type of comedy?

No, I wouldn't discount their opinions simply because it's not my type of comedy. However, I would be inclined to discount their opinions on account of the fact that they're idiots. I'm sorry, but it's just appallingly unfunny, unoriginal, puerile, predictable, poorly-performed rubbish, aimed towards really stupid people; the kind of lazy-minded imbeciles who won't find a joke funny unless it's absolutely ancient (usually stolen by O'Carroll from some other comedian) and has been signposted at least ten minutes in advance.

Having said that, I sort of admire Brendan O'Carroll's audacity. He's bringing the entire concept of "getting away with it" to a completely new level. In that respect, he's like the comedy equivalent of Bertie Ahern, pre-Mahon.

pixelburp · 28-05-2012 8:05am

The reason for O'Carroll's success is fairly simple to understand when compared against the history of British comedy & their love of vaudeville theatre.

The British population have for decades enjoyed performers in obvious drag, performing bawdy comedy - look to the 70s & 80s and Dick Emery / Kenny Everett for example, or Little Britain for a far more recent example - and they certainly never lost the taste for a 'silly paddy' routine either - look at Jedward.

It's dreadful comedy and pretty base / crass material, opinions be damned, but the Brits simply love this form of comedy as it tallies with what they've always enjoyed down through the years

Doodah7 · 28-05-2012 8:36am

Love it and delighted for him!!

What's even more fun is all the pseuds who think they know ANYTHING about television on this forum spluttering into their muesli this morning!

irishchris · 28-05-2012 8:55am

expectationlost wrote: »

bafta's is supposed to award the best not the one most watched

You are correct and it did hence the bafta :-)

Dub Ste · 28-05-2012 8:58am

You may not like him or his show,but it was worth him winning,just to see the look on the face of that pile of ****e ,Jack-I'm as funny as a kick the bollocks-Whitehouse.

So that alone,fair play Brendan:D

pixelburp · 28-05-2012 9:16am

tallpaul wrote: »

Love it and delighted for him!!

What's even more fun is all the pseuds who think they know ANYTHING about television on this forum spluttering into their muesli this morning!

Slice of schaudenfreude for table two! The 'everyone has an opinion' defense works both ways you know: just because a lot of people think Mrs. Brown's Boys is a godawful sitcom doesn't make them 'pseuds'. Might make them easier to dismiss, but the argument about how bad the show is as compelling as any viewership figure.

nanook · 28-05-2012 9:33am

Brendan O'Carroll is not everyone's taste but neither is all streams of humor.
Some adore bill hicks, personally I could not listen to it to save my life.

Long and short, an Irish comedian/writer has won a BAFTA, can we not be proud and happy for this fact.

Too much bregrudgery.

Well done Brendan. Keep up the good work

du Maurier · 28-05-2012 9:43am

Once again, it's not begrudgery. It's also not good work, in the sense of his comedic content anyway.

You're just proud that Ireland won an award. So, that's the only 'good work' I can glean from that comment. That's a perfectly acceptable thing to be happy in that regard, but for anyone that has some negativity as to the merits of this accolade, it's not begrudgery.

People are entitled to voice dissatisfaction if they think his style of comedy complete tripe.

fryup · 28-05-2012 9:49am

expectationlost wrote: »

bafta's is supposed to award the best not the one most watched

yes i agree

don't mean to be sniffy, but its suppose to be a prestigous award for excellence in TV & film....for that reason i'm totally gobsmacked:eek: that this tripe has won...it makes the carry on movies look like a work of shakespeare

squonk · 28-05-2012 10:24am

There are plenty of 'great' comedies out there that I thought were crap, Little Britain being the most glaring one. That was pure crap. Ricky Gervaise's efforts post-office were crap. he relied on celeb cameos to keep the audience coming back. Mrs. Brown's Boys mightn't be the best out there but it's honest enough for what it is. I think some of it is funny but not all of it but good for the guy. Well done to him.

Basq · 28-05-2012 10:28am

JonathanAnon wrote: »

Acceptance Speech.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ilb_1EP4NRY

Jack Whitehall's dead expression at 1:50 says it all!

Bad Panda · 28-05-2012 10:36am

Don't like Brendan O'Carroll.
HATE Mrs. Brown's Boys....

...and I couldn't give two f*cks about him winning a BAFTA. I don't even care if he wins an Oscar (somehow!).

xflyer · 28-05-2012 10:47am

Mrs Brown's boys was never to my taste, although I admire what Brendan O'Carroll has done. Whether you like it or not he's successful at what he does. So eff the begrudgers, as he succinctly put it: 'Mrs Brown put my kids through college.

I've met him. He's highly intelligent and good at what he does and an awful lot of people enjoy his work. Since when is that a reason for the begrudgers and 'pseuds' to hammer him because his work doesn't fit in with their preconceived notions of comedy or entertainment?

Now I said Mrs Brown's boys wasn't to my taste. But then I watched an episode expecting it to be the train wreck that is Killinascully or Sgt Mattie:mad:.

But O'Carroll is better than Pat Shortt. There are some genuinely hilarious moments. I particularly like when he clearly goes off script to the obvious discomfort of the other actors.

So well done O'Carroll.

LizT · 28-05-2012 11:14am

RayM wrote: »

No, I wouldn't discount their opinions simply because it's not my type of comedy. However, I would be inclined to discount their opinions on account of the fact that they're idiots. I'm sorry, but it's just appallingly unfunny, unoriginal, puerile, predictable, poorly-performed rubbish, aimed towards really stupid people; the kind of lazy-minded imbeciles who won't find a joke funny unless it's absolutely ancient (usually stolen by O'Carroll from some other comedian) and has been signposted at least ten minutes in advance.

Having said that, I sort of admire Brendan O'Carroll's audacity. He's bringing the entire concept of "getting away with it" to a completely new level. In that respect, he's like the comedy equivalent of Bertie Ahern, pre-Mahon.

So you do realise you're calling 888000 people in Ireland and 6.6 million people in the UK idiots purely because they watch and enjoy a show? Just making sure you're ok with the generalisation!

sligojoek · 28-05-2012 11:33am

I can see Duffy and Mooney getting orgasmic over this today.

Technocentral · 28-05-2012 11:39am

The BAFTA's are meaningless when it comes to recognising quality, just like the Grammy's and even worse the BRIT awards, thats why the fact that utter, unoriginal muck like O'Carroll's gets them is also meaningless.

touts · 28-05-2012 11:45am

Congrats to him. When you think about it he probably did make the best UK sit-com this year. But I think the win says more about the awful lack of good comedy on TV at the moment than how good Mrs Brown's Boys is. It will make you laugh once or twice but there are many many funnier shows. Just not any being made this year.

JP Liz V1 · 28-05-2012 11:54am

Really thought Rev would win but well done to Brendan O'Carroll

pixelburp · 28-05-2012 12:47pm

xflyer wrote: »

[...]
I've met him. He's highly intelligent and good at what he does and an awful lot of people enjoy his work. Since when is that a reason for the begrudgers and 'pseuds' to hammer him because his work doesn't fit in with their preconceived notions of comedy or entertainment?
[...]

'Begrudgery', jesus; that tired argument. Why is this the go-to response for some people when any kind of fair criticism raises it's head: it's a pretty weak excuse to dismiss the notion that whilst a lot of people might enjoy his work, just as many don't. It doesn't make them begrudgers to dislike something & most of us are well capable of understanding the concept that opinions are as varied as the people expressing them.

And whilst I understand the history and heritage behind the world of variety performances in Britain - so I can see how something like O'Carrolls work might appeal - it's still a pretty poor example of that form of comedy in the first instance.

Hyzepher · 28-05-2012 2:11pm

just out of interest - how many episode did you watch?

JONJO THE MISER · 28-05-2012 3:59pm

Just when i thought id seen it all, come this news:(

xflyer · 28-05-2012 5:23pm

pixelburp wrote: »

'Begrudgery', jesus; that tired argument. Why is this the go-to response for some people when any kind of fair criticism raises it's head: it's a pretty weak excuse to dismiss the notion that whilst a lot of people might enjoy his work, just as many don't. It doesn't make them begrudgers to dislike something & most of us are well capable of understanding the concept that opinions are as varied as the people expressing them.

I dislike his work for the most part. It isn't my favourite form of comedy and I won't be buying the DVD boxed set. Am I a begrudger? Clearly not.

Fair criticism is one thing, although to my mind comedy criticism is surely somewhat related to an oxymoron. You either find it funny or you don't. Fair criticism doesn't come into it. It's comedy, low brow comedy not bloody Shakespeare.

Ok it's official, you don't like his form of comedy, duly noted. You're not a begrudger OK?

But begrudgery is practially the national sport in this country. There are plenty of people who don't like what he does and do resent his success. That is undeniable. Being successful in this country is still something of a mortal sin unless you're a corrupt politican.

And yes I watched several episodes.

kippy · 28-05-2012 5:25pm

I hate the show tbh and don't particularly like O Carrolls' type of comedy, hence I avoid him and his shows.
That being said I know many that love it, and fair play to him for tapping into popular tv and making a buck out of it. Best of luck to him.

spirit_77 · 28-05-2012 5:29pm

dont find it funny personally but a lot of people do. well done to him

Paparazzo · 28-05-2012 7:02pm

xflyer wrote: »

Mrs Brown's boys was never to my taste, although I admire what Brendan O'Carroll has done. Whether you like it or not he's successful at what he does. So eff the begrudgers, as he succinctly put it: 'Mrs Brown put my kids through college.

I've met him. He's highly intelligent and good at what he does and an awful lot of people enjoy his work. Since when is that a reason for the begrudgers and 'pseuds' to hammer him because his work doesn't fit in with their preconceived notions of comedy or entertainment?

Now I said Mrs Brown's boys wasn't to my taste. But then I watched an episode expecting it to be the train wreck that is Killinascully or Sgt Mattie:mad:.

But O'Carroll is better than Pat Shortt. There are some genuinely hilarious moments. I particularly like when he clearly goes off script to the obvious discomfort of the other actors.

So well done O'Carroll.

Killinascully and Sgt Mattie are brilliant, you're just a begrudger. See how this works? Criticism = begrudgers.
The first scene I remember seeing in MBB's was a dog barking outside when Mrs Brown walks into the room, she opens the back door and shouts "Fúck off". The audience were in stitches laughing, I thought it was something a 3 year old would come up with.
If that makes me a begrudger in some peoples book, so be it, but a few people need to look up the meaning of the word.

Sir Oxman · 28-05-2012 7:10pm

Dub Ste wrote: »

You may not like him or his show,but it was worth him winning,just to see the look on the face of that pile of ****e ,Jack-I'm as funny as a kick the bollocks-Whitehouse.

So that alone,fair play Brendan:D

Whitehall did have a grouchy auld sourpuss on him alright!
(Fresh Meat was good though)

walshb · 28-05-2012 7:32pm

I know it's courses for horses, but seriously, who the **** finds this programme funny. I find it embarrassingly unfunny. Desperate!

pixelburp · 28-05-2012 8:04pm

xflyer wrote: »

I dislike his work for the most part. It isn't my favourite form of comedy and I won't be buying the DVD boxed set. Am I a begrudger? Clearly not.

Fair criticism is one thing, although to my mind comedy criticism is surely somewhat related to an oxymoron. You either find it funny or you don't. Fair criticism doesn't come into it. It's comedy, low brow comedy not bloody Shakespeare.

You know Shakespeare wrote comedies, yeah?

Pretty farcical stuff too iirc, by contemporary standards (And back then female parts were played by men in drag - it's kinda where the whole routine came from really so even that element has its Shakespearean roots)

Comedy is one of the highest forms of writing imo, and certainly one of the hardest forms of acting; it shouldn't be exempt from the same standards we expect from our drama and other performing arts. It may often be flippant and silly, but it's still legitimate in its own right. No doubt that qualifies me as being one of these 'pseuds' people round these parts have spat, but it can't be said I don't say what I think

just out of interest - how many episode did you watch?

Why? I haven't counted; probably 3/4 in total, with channel-hopping, trailers at various points making up the rest of my experience. I gave it a chance, hated it, gave it another couple of goes out of morbid curiosity when I had heard how popular it had become.

RayM · 28-05-2012 8:46pm

lizt wrote: »

So you do realise you're calling 888000 people in Ireland and 6.6 million people in the UK idiots purely because they watch and enjoy a show?

Yes, yes, I realise that. They watch and enjoy a show that is clearly aimed towards idiots - or at the very least, people whose sense of humour stopped developing when they were still in primary school. If someone finds a man in a dress continually falling over and shouting "fuck" uproariously funny, I think the assumption that they're an idiot is quite a safe one.

LizT · 28-05-2012 8:50pm

RayM wrote: »

Yes, yes, I realise that. They watch and enjoy a show that is clearly aimed towards idiots - or at the very least, people whose sense of humour stopped developing when they were still in primary school. If someone finds a man in a dress continually falling over and shouting "fuck" uproariously funny, I think the assumption that they're an idiot is quite a safe one.

Well that says it all really.

I'd better go tell my dad, a very well educated and intelligent man, that he's an idiot because he watches a tv show. Wish me luck!

Technocentral · 28-05-2012 9:00pm

walshb wrote: »

I know it's courses for horses, but seriously, who the **** finds this programme funny. I find it embarrassingly unfunny. Desperate!

At a guess I'd say people who also read tabloid newspapers and watch X Factor/Big Brother type of stuff. I'm off to watch Peep Show now, original, edgey, disgusting and fu*kin hilarious ORIGINAL comedy.

conor.hogan.2 · 28-05-2012 9:05pm

People who type in bold and/or caps are nearly always wrong.

RayM · 28-05-2012 9:09pm

lizt wrote: »

Well that says it all really.

I'd better go tell my dad, a very well educated and intelligent man, that he's an idiot because he watches a tv show. Wish me luck!

Good luck with that. Just tell him the bad man on the internet told you to say it.

I wouldn't have an issue with Mrs Brown's Boys if it was hidden away in the schedules on BBC NI, like Give My Head Peace or (better still) if it was still just touring grim northern towns in the UK. My main issue lies with the fact that something so blatantly unfunny and poorly performed has become so inexplicably successful, and is now beating vastly superior sitcoms in prestigious award ceremonies.

pixelburp · 28-05-2012 9:09pm

Technocentral wrote: »

At a guess I'd say people who also read tabloid newspapers and watch X Factor/Big Brother type of stuff. I'm off to watch Peep Show now, original, edgey, disgusting and fu*kin hilarious ORIGINAL comedy.

Ahhhh, so that's what the other posters meant when they spoke of 'pseuds' :rolleyes: Seriously, drop the wannabe-snob routine. And in any case, Peep Show isn't Mitchell/Webb's best work.

And here's me trying to class up the thread with talk about vaudeville and Shakespearean comedies.

Mrs Brown's Boys has just won a BAFTA!

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