Rangers FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2012/2013

Eirebear · 20-02-2012 11:52pm

Fuhrer wrote: »

Look on the bright side, you want have to read any stories about Rangers fans chatting vile things at football matches for much longer!

I expect wittier from you tbh.

Old Gill · 21-02-2012 10:43am

Owing to the explanations of fenian only being a term used for IRA supporter and not a catholic in general..can someone explain the refs connections on Saturday to Irish republicanism for me please?

BTW "Go home ya huns" is no more/less than singing "cheerio cheerio" or "show them the way to go home". Some ***** here clutching at straws to either be offended/justify their bigotry.

And as a sidenote Ive got 4 friends I can think of who have brothers/sistsers who support rangers and they openly say "my dad/mum/sister/brother" is a hun. please explain..?

Eirebear · 21-02-2012 11:22am

You know what's scary?

You actually seem to believe what you are saying. This ****ed up world of Rangers and Celtic actually seems clear in your heads, black and white - they're bad, we're good.

If we use fenian, it's fine. If they use fenian, it's not.
If they call a ref fenian, then it's religious bigotry. However if we call Walter Smith "Orange Bastard" it has nothing to do with religion whatsoever.

Rangers fans find the term "hun" offensive - ach sure what do they no eh? They're just fascists.

I'm out.
I'll be back when someone attempts to talk football again.

The_Kew_Tour · 21-02-2012 1:15pm

Eirebear wrote: »

I'm out.
I'll be back when someone attempts to talk football again.

You could be waiting a while:(

premierstone · 21-02-2012 1:36pm

I actually agree with Eirebear here, Fenian is not in any way shape or form a sectarian term and anyone who takes offence to the use of the word is just looking for something to take offence to and clearly does'nt actually know what a 'fenian' is.

That said the same of course applys to the term 'hun'.

Now can we just leave this thread to actual football talk and cut out all this tit for tat sh*te, just ignore TheKeith and it becomes alot easier, have a read of some of he's views in the political forum and you wioll get an idea of what you are dealing with here :rolleyes:

Jelle1880 · 21-02-2012 3:11pm

Old Gill wrote: »

And as a sidenote Ive got 4 friends I can think of who have brothers/sistsers who support rangers and they openly say "my dad/mum/sister/brother" is a hun. please explain..?

easy:

They're either idiots or you're full of it.

The Paul McGowan story which was printed today shows how retarded it is to get offended by 'fenian', or even 'provo'

premierstone · 21-02-2012 4:00pm

Jelle1880 wrote: »

easy:

They're either idiots or you're full of it.

The Paul McGowan story which was printed today shows how retarded it is to get offended by 'fenian', or even 'provo'

In the very same way it is retarded to get offended by the term 'hun' as Eirebear would say cake and eat it

lubo_moravcik · 21-02-2012 10:23pm

premierstone wrote: »

I actually agree with Eirebear here, Fenian is not in any way shape or form a sectarian term and anyone who takes offence to the use of the word is just looking for something to take offence to and clearly does'nt actually know what a 'fenian' is.

That said the same of course applys to the term 'hun'.

Now can we just leave this thread to actual football talk and cut out all this tit for tat sh*te, just ignore TheKeith and it becomes alot easier, have a read of some of he's views in the political forum and you wioll get an idea of what you are dealing with here :rolleyes:

Let them sing 'up to our knees in fenian blood' all they want. I'd rather we can all sing what we want

premierstone · 21-02-2012 10:57pm

lubo_moravcik wrote: »

Let them sing 'up to our knees in fenian blood' all they want. I'd rather we can all sing what we want

Thats called context though lubo, change fenian there for any term relating to Celtic and its still offensive, thw word fenian in itself is in no shape of form offensive

Coillte_Bhoy · 21-02-2012 11:07pm

Eirebear wrote: »

Oh jesus titty****ing christ. A football teams supporters claiming to be better than other teams fans! Shock of shocks!
Got to laugh at asking where that leaves Celtic fans, I think you may be missing the point of football chants now.

Whats getting dragged out next?
The Red and Black socks story? Maybe The Bouncy one?
What about the "Why is Dublin mentioned in Follow Follow?" debate?

Drivel is pretty much bang on.

Oh ffs, you really are hurting and lashing out all around you. WATP has sinister connotations to a minority of uneducated morons in your support. i dont find it offensive, more laughable really. As for the last part, of ****ing course not. :rolleyes: Not sure about the bouncy though

Eirebear · 21-02-2012 11:12pm

Coillte_Bhoy wrote: »

Oh ffs, you really are hurting and lashing out all around you. WATP has sinister connotations to a minority of uneducated morons in your support. i dont find it offensive, more laughable really. As for the last part, of ****ing course not. :rolleyes: Not sure about the bouncy though

Maybe lashing out, and probably at the wrong target to be fair - but i don't particularly take too well to being labelled a fascist.

As for the rest - i've read them all at one point or another on this very forum.

lubo_moravcik · 21-02-2012 11:14pm

Eirebear wrote: »

Maybe lashing out, and probably at the wrong target to be fair - but i don't particularly take too well to being labelled a fascist.

As for the rest - i've read them all at one point or another on this very forum.

Why is Dublin mentioned?

Jelle1880 · 21-02-2012 11:15pm

'sinister connotations' ?

You mean like 'We don't care what the animals say' ?

Eirebear · 21-02-2012 11:16pm

lubo_moravcik wrote: »

Why is Dublin mentioned?

I dunno, it fits into the song.
But i'm sure it's for bigoted/racist/sectarian reasons of course.

lubo_moravcik · 21-02-2012 11:17pm

Eirebear wrote: »

I dunno, it fits into the song.
But i'm sure it's for bigoted/racist/sectarian reasons of course.

Because it fits into the song, ok. Thanks

Coillte_Bhoy · 21-02-2012 11:17pm

Eirebear wrote: »

Maybe lashing out, and probably at the wrong target to be fair - but i don't particularly take too well to being labelled a fascist.

As for the rest - i've read them all at one point or another on this very forum.

You havent read them from me and tbh i was having a go at another poster, not you particularly or rangers fans in general but i do think that particular chant can be interpreted wrongly by some idiots, same as some of our more political slogans can be among the idiots in our support

Jelle1880 · 21-02-2012 11:17pm

Easy, because it's one of the last places you'd expect to find Rangers fans following their team.
But they do

Coillte_Bhoy · 21-02-2012 11:19pm

Jelle1880 wrote: »

'sinister connotations' ?

You mean like 'We don't care what the animals say' ?

No, you just dont get it, im ****ed if im going to try and explain it to you.

Coillte_Bhoy · 21-02-2012 11:20pm

Jelle1880 wrote: »

Easy, because it's one of the last places you'd expect to find Rangers fans following their team.
But they do

Can you not use the quote function?

Jelle1880 · 21-02-2012 11:21pm

Coillte_Bhoy wrote: »

No, you just dont get it, im ****ed if im going to try and explain it to you.

No, it's pretty clear, you think it's some sort of supremacist slogan which caused some Rangers fans to see themselves superior to Celtic fans.

Shocking that, football fans who see themselves as better than their rivals.

Eirebear · 21-02-2012 11:22pm

Coillte_Bhoy wrote: »

You havent read them from me and tbh i was having a go at another poster, not you particularly or rangers fans in general but i do think that particular chant can be interpreted wrongly by some idiots, same as some of our more political slogans can be among the idiots in our support

Fair enough, as i say i probably shouldnt have vented at you - you just happened to be there at the time!

Jelle1880 · 21-02-2012 11:22pm

Coillte_Bhoy wrote: »

Can you not use the quote function?

It's fairly easy to see what I was talking about, figure it out.

Coillte_Bhoy · 21-02-2012 11:22pm

Jelle1880 wrote: »

No, it's pretty clear, you think it's some sort of supremacist slogan which caused some Rangers fans to see themselves superior to Celtic fans.

Shocking that, football fans who see themselves as better than their rivals.

Why not just chant 'Croppy lie down'? Timmy must know his place.:rolleyes:

Eirebear · 21-02-2012 11:23pm

lubo_moravcik wrote: »

Because it fits into the song, ok. Thanks

lol, i dunno if you're being serious, or i'm being serious, or that was just the most banal conversation ever?

Jelle1880 · 21-02-2012 11:25pm

Coillte_Bhoy wrote: »

Why not just chant 'Croppy lie down'? Timmy must know his place.:rolleyes:

Wow, talk about a complex.

lubo_moravcik · 21-02-2012 11:27pm

Eirebear wrote: »

lol, i dunno if you're being serious, or i'm being serious, or that was just the most banal conversation ever?

Coillte_Bhoy · 21-02-2012 11:31pm

Jelle1880 wrote: »

It's fairly easy to see what I was talking about, figure it out.

Well when following/reading a number of threads and popping back and forth it would be easier for all if you used the function. It really isn't that difficult and it's courteous to other users. Everyone else does it, would it kill you to show some consideration for fellow users?

Coillte_Bhoy · 21-02-2012 11:32pm

Eirebear wrote: »

Fair enough, as i say i probably shouldnt have vented at you - you just happened to be there at the time!

Lash away, i'm a thick skinned fecker. If i give it, i've no problem taking it, (well most of the time anyway):)

KeithAFC · 21-02-2012 11:55pm

lubo_moravcik wrote: »

Why is Dublin mentioned?

The real home of the Tri colour. Not Glasgow.

Coillte_Bhoy · 22-02-2012 8:12am

KeithAFC wrote: »

The real home of the Tri colour. Not Glasgow.

And what has the tricolour got do with it?

Jelle1880 · 22-02-2012 8:30am

Daily Record claiming Whyte sold off the shares we had in Arsenal (worth around £240.000) :mad:

PauloMN · 22-02-2012 10:08am

Jelle1880 wrote: »

Daily Record claiming Whyte sold off the shares we had in Arsenal (worth around £240.000) :mad:

Drop in the ocean though really, compared with the rest of it.

lubo_moravcik · 22-02-2012 10:09am

Jelle1880 wrote: »

Daily Record claiming Whyte sold off the shares we had in Arsenal (worth around £240.000) :mad:

Wasn't it closer to £188,000 but we won't split hairs eh

At least he never sold off The Loving Cup, or The Bike

Jelle1880 · 22-02-2012 10:13am

Nah, they're worth more than that:

Fresh information in our possession now shows how Whyte struck a deal worth more than £230,000 with a consortium called Red and White to sell off the 16 shares and cash in on a historic link between the clubs dating back to 1910.

It's not the money, it's the fact he's willing to sell a part of the club's history for personal means.

What's next, some trophies, the bike we got from St Etienne for scrap metal ?

Pompey Magnus · 22-02-2012 10:39am

Jelle1880 wrote: »

N
It's not the money, it's the fact he's willing to sell a part of the club's history for personal means.

Ah now it might not have been for personal means at all. The figure matches closely the money that went to Banstead Athletic, perhaps all he is doing is replacing an old link with a team on the decline for a new, exciting link with a team on the up!

Pompey Magnus · 22-02-2012 10:45am

Being serious though the fact that he did that suggests to me that he may consider liquidation as becoming increasingly likely and so decided to act first and thus have a say in where the money for the assets go to.

premierstone · 22-02-2012 12:02pm

Pompey Magnus wrote: »

Ah now it might not have been for personal means at all. The figure matches closely the money that went to Banstead Athletic, perhaps all he is doing is replacing an old link with a team on the decline for a new, exciting link with a team on the up!

I think you are right here Pompey its obvious that Rangers feel they should establish a closer link with a team more at their own level, Kyle Bartley will be replaced by some blocklayer from Banstead, exciting times ahead in Govan

lubo_moravcik · 22-02-2012 1:46pm

The St Etienne bike

Jelle1880 · 22-02-2012 2:04pm

lubo_moravcik wrote: »

The St Etienne bike

It's a part of the club's history, gifted by St Etienne in 1957.
St Etienne was the bicycle capital of France back then, makes perfect sense.

Dempsey · 22-02-2012 2:20pm

Fairly scummy thing for Whyte to do. Doesnt say much about the character of that Red and White consortium either

lubo_moravcik · 22-02-2012 3:06pm

Jelle1880 wrote: »

lubo_moravcik wrote: »

The St Etienne bike

It's a part of the club's history, gifted by St Etienne in 1957.
St Etienne was the bicycle capital of France back then, makes perfect sense.

Maybe when yous tell him to get on his bike he'll take it literally

Old Gill · 22-02-2012 7:01pm

On football matters does anybody think 5/1 inverness on sunday is a good bet? Its a tough enough place to visit and rangers are (allegedly) travelling up and down to save on hotels fees (not sure on how much truth in this). Either way 5-1 seems generous. Thoughts?

Old Gill · 22-02-2012 7:05pm

Jelle1880 wrote: »

easy:

They're either idiots or you're full of it.

The Paul McGowan story which was printed today shows how retarded it is to get offended by 'fenian', or even 'provo'

neither,and not reakly sure why calling your brother a hun makes you an idiot

Dempsey · 22-02-2012 7:15pm

Old Gill wrote: »

On football matters does anybody think 5/1 inverness on sunday is a good bet? Its a tough enough place to visit and rangers are (allegedly) travelling up and down to save on hotels fees (not sure on how much truth in this). Either way 5-1 seems generous. Thoughts?

Worth a flutter but I'd be cautious, its hard to know which Rangers will turn up. Where are you getting 5/1? LB & BF are only giving 4/1

KeithAFC · 22-02-2012 8:31pm

https://www.saverangers.com/

Thanks.

Fuhrer · 22-02-2012 8:32pm

KeithAFC wrote: »

https://www.saverangers.com/

Thanks.

No.

Actually, I just pledged 5 grand.

Jelle1880 · 22-02-2012 10:37pm

Old Gill wrote: »

neither,and not reakly sure why calling your brother a hun makes you an idiot

Because any normal Rangers fan would hate to be called that.
So yeah, to use it as something to be proud of makes you an idiot.

bobbysands81 · 22-02-2012 11:24pm

lubo_moravcik wrote: »

Wasn't it closer to £188,000 but we won't split hairs eh At least he never sold off The Loving Cup, or The Bike

I actually tried to buy it last week!

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Dempsey · 22-02-2012 11:51pm

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/17130755

The Scottish Premier League is investigating sectarian chanting by Rangers fans during Saturday's 1-0 defeat by Kilmarnock at Ibrox.

It wont matter because any punishment will be written off in the liquidation :pac:

Jelle1880 · 23-02-2012 12:06am

I assume they'll arrest Paul McGowan too then, for having the audacity of using the term 'Fenian' in a song ? :pac:

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