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What does it mean to be a 'Man' in modern society?

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  • #52
    HavingCrack
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,847 ✭✭✭HavingCrack


    iptba wrote: »

    But even among the younger generations, I don't think DIY jobs are divided 50/50 between men and women.

    When it comes to DIY I do find there is an element of physical strength that comes into play moreso than in other situations.

    The average man is physically stronger than the average woman. Quite a lot of DIY work requires lifting and hammering etc. and the average woman will tire quicker. Obviously there's things like painting etc. that strength does not come into it as much but a lot of DIY work is definately easier for men to do on average.


  • #53
    wonderfulname
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,943 ✭✭✭wonderfulname


    HavingCrack wrote: »
    When it comes to DIY I do find there is an element of physical strength that comes into play moreso than in other situations.

    The average man is physically stronger than the average woman. Quite a lot of DIY work requires lifting and hammering etc. and the average woman will tire quicker. Obviously there's things like painting etc. that strength does not come into it as much but a lot of DIY work is definately easier for men to do on average.

    Not a theory I'd agree with, DIY is amateur by definition and you'll find it rarely involves anything where physicality differences between the sexes would actually matter, I have to say I'm almost offended that you suggest hammering of all things to be something a woman would be inherently less capable of.

    I'd put it to you that even in the younger generations, men are more likely to do the DIY because they are more likely to know how, it's traditionally the kind of skill set a father teaches his son, so the actions of the younger generations have been affected by the actions of their predecessors. It's one of many areas where the affects of our new found equal thinking aren't going to be immediately visible, because they've barely happened yet.


  • #54
    iptba
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,887 ✭✭✭iptba


    Dudess wrote: »
    Could you provide even one example of these man-hating feminists, supported with examples of their behaviour?
    I've seen quite a few conversations where even some feminists say some other well-known feminists have man-hating/misandric tendencies.

    Here's a link to a sample list:
    http://www.fatherhoodcoalition.org/cpf/newreadings/2001/feminist_hate_speech.htm


  • #55
    The Corinthian
    Closed Accounts Posts: 19,777 ✭✭✭✭The Corinthian


    wonderfulname wrote: »
    Not a theory I'd agree with, DIY is amateur by definition and you'll find it rarely involves anything where physicality differences between the sexes would actually matter, I have to say I'm almost offended that you suggest hammering of all things to be something a woman would be inherently less capable of.
    Absolutely. The strength necessary for the vast majority of household DIY is quite limited and most DIY is both mundane and requires little or no strength (electrics, being a prime example). If you look at pre-industrial age housework, women had to contend with some highly strenuous activities, from the carrying of heavy loads through to washing clothes by hand.

    The 'strength' argument is a bit of a red herring, IMHO. Suggesting that "a lot of DIY work is definitely easier for men to do on average" on that basis, effectively argues that any physical work should rather be done by men, which is ridiculous.


  • #56
    yawha
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    If men are more likely to do DIY, it sort of contradicts the idea put forward earlier that women are more interested in interior decoration/design. Lots of DIY is centered around interior design.

    Lots of men are very into gardening too.

    I'm not sure that the idea that women want to do more housework as a result of an inherent difference due to gender holds much water.


  • #57
    iptba
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,887 ✭✭✭iptba


    yawha wrote: »
    If men are more likely to do DIY, it sort of contradicts the idea put forward earlier that women are more interested in interior decoration/design. Lots of DIY is centered around interior design.
    Not necessarily. For one thing, it depends whose idea it was.


  • #58
    Dudess
    Closed Accounts Posts: 37,214 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    iptba wrote: »
    Dudess wrote: »
    Could you provide even one example of these man-hating feminists, supported with examples of their behaviour?
    I've seen quite a few conversations where even some feminists say some other well-known feminists have man-hating/misandric tendencies.

    Here's a link to a sample list:
    http://www.fatherhoodcoalition.org/cpf/newreadings/2001/feminist_hate_speech.htm
    I'm not disputing that at all - but they're on the fringes. It's simply inaccurate to say they're a regular part of everyday life.


  • #59
    iptba
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,887 ✭✭✭iptba


    Dudess wrote: »
    I'm not disputing that at all - but they're on the fringes. It's simply inaccurate to say they're a regular part of everyday life.
    Ok. It wasn't my point, so I'm not going to defend it.


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