Bangernomics car of the week/day - Part II

unkel · 15-06-2012 4:23pm

maca1985 wrote: »

http://www.bewaz.com/Publish/ResultDetail.aspx/10560
Ok, it's an alfa so it'll probably break down 100yards down the road but nobody can argue that it's a stunning car for pennies.

An Alfa 147 advertised as an Alfa 159?

And what kinda site is that anyway? Another "me too" site like the ill fated bendunne.com? They only seem to have a few hundred cars for sale...

high horse · 16-06-2012 1:40am

barura wrote: »

Nope, you did not. Didn't mean anything offensive by it.

Cheap people carrier with NCT and Tax. 850.

http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/3457306

Half hour from south Clonmel or 25mins from Dung

Is that a real place or is she referring to the car?

jimmyw · 16-06-2012 1:50am

high horse wrote: »

Is that a real place or is she referring to the car?

No the manure heap in the yard:D

I assume they meant Dungarvan, but hadn't enough room. Its a funny description of it though:)

dahamsta · 16-06-2012 9:38am

Dung, Co. Cavan
http://m.google.com/u/m/deaG4u

It's what they should have called the whole county.

barura · 16-06-2012 11:28am

People carrier is now 950. >:(

166man · 16-06-2012 11:32am

barura wrote: »

Nope, you did not. Didn't mean anything offensive by it.

Cheap people carrier with NCT and Tax. 850.

http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/3457306

This thread is for cars that you would actually buy and drive though... :pac:

You couldn't pay me to own that thing. Has to be one of the roughest yokes I'v seen on this thread for quite sometime no offence intended at all though!

alias no.9 · 16-06-2012 11:38am

166man wrote: »

This thread is for cars that you would actually buy and drive though... :pac:

You couldn't pay me to own that thing. Has to be one of the roughest yokes I'v seen on this thread for quite sometime no offence intended at all though!

Got to agree. They were slow and agricultural when new and there's no reason to believe age will have done anything to improve it. It lacks anything that could trigger even the slightest feeling of smug self satisfaction that makes bangernomics worthwhile.

barura · 16-06-2012 12:00pm

166man wrote: »

This thread is for cars that you would actually buy and drive though... :pac:

You couldn't pay me to own that thing. Has to be one of the roughest yokes I'v seen on this thread for quite sometime no offence intended at all though!

It's all good, sure I'm just waiting to be 25 and then all the goodies will be open to myself. Such as vans. For now, stuff like vans seems to be the only option short of starting a business.

cadaliac · 16-06-2012 12:15pm

166man wrote: »

This thread is for cars that you would actually buy and drive though... :pac:

You couldn't pay me to own that thing. Has to be one of the roughest yokes I'v seen on this thread for quite sometime no offence intended at all though!

Agree, there is a place called stop, and we are crashing through it with that yoke.
Please no, it is just hideous.

dahamsta · 16-06-2012 3:06pm

What's the general cutoff point for a banger do ye think? I just bought something for 2k and I'm not sure if I'm allowed join the club.

Saab Ed · 16-06-2012 4:17pm

Lots of nice extras, 165 horses, interior space of a small holiday home and a decent test to boot. Not everyones cup of tea but for a grand !!!

http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/3501266

Saab Ed · 16-06-2012 4:20pm

How about a face lifted Clio 182 for 1500 quid and what ever you haggle off. Future classic here guys. People will be giving 3 and 4 grand for these in 15-20 years time.

http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/3473311

ShadowHearth · 16-06-2012 6:09pm

Saab Ed wrote: »

How about a face lifted Clio 182 for 1500 quid and what ever you haggle off. Future classic here guys. People will be giving 3 and 4 grand for these in 15-20 years time.

http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/3473311

is it me or door color really does not match the body?

Saab Ed · 16-06-2012 6:32pm

http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/3452702

Saab Ed · 16-06-2012 6:35pm

And while we're at it, the best car in the world ever .....

http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/3278029

Seweryn · 16-06-2012 6:37pm

Saab Ed wrote: »

And while we're at it, the best car in the world ever .....

It truly is and about 60 times better that its successor

.

ShadowHearth · 16-06-2012 6:39pm

****! at 1k eu its a fecking bargain! :eek:

tuborg_man · 16-06-2012 7:01pm

Saab Ed wrote: »

How about a face lifted Clio 182 for 1500 quid and what ever you haggle off. Future classic here guys. People will be giving 3 and 4 grand for these in 15-20 years time.

http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/3473311

Immobilizer prob and not starting though, would have had it by now other wise, Is there an easy way to see if it's the immobilizer or is it a trip to the dealer.

hoodie6029 · 16-06-2012 8:02pm

Saab Ed wrote: »

And while we're at it, the best car in the world ever .....

http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/3278029

http://photos2.donedeal.ie/View2-11276959.jpeg

200k on the clock, it's bearly run in!

johndaman66 · 16-06-2012 11:32pm

Any brave souls out there willing to take one of these on?

http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/3305507

Looks straight and clean to me in the pictures which were perhaps a wee while back judging by the price he has on the windscreen.

rocky · 16-06-2012 11:44pm

Saab Ed wrote: »

dat a$$

Esel · 17-06-2012 12:05am

Saab Ed wrote: »

And while we're at it, the best car in the world ever .....

http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/3278029

Nice find!

The fact that it has been on the market for 22 days says everything about the state of the market.

bijapos · 17-06-2012 12:12am

Saab Ed wrote: »

And while we're at it, the best car in the world ever .....

http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/3278029

ShadowHearth wrote: »

****! at 1k eu its a fecking bargain! :eek:

It's been for sale a lot longer than 22 days, I nearly went to have a look at it in April. Basic equipment level and isn't the fastest but if it's technically fine it's a good enough price, that's what they are going for these days.

The last truly great Mercedes before the cost cutting started.

BeerSteakBirds · 17-06-2012 12:35am

bijapos wrote: »

The last truly great Mercedes before the cost cutting started.

How many miles has it got left ?

Top Dog · 17-06-2012 12:36am

523i
Tax & Test (though it doesn't say for how long)
No leather

But €600 asking price means it has to fall into bangernomics

http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/3407444

166man · 17-06-2012 1:12am

Top Dog wrote: »

523i
Tax & Test (though it doesn't say for how long)
No leather
But €600 asking price means it has to fall into bangernomics

http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/3407444

Nice find. A good valet and a used leather interior from a scrappie makes that a nice car I think. Looks very clean

dahamsta · 17-06-2012 1:35am

johndaman66 wrote: »

Any brave souls out there willing to take one of these on?

http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/3305507

Looks straight and clean to me in the pictures which were perhaps a wee while back judging by the price he has on the windscreen.

Generally speaking, an XJ from before 2000 or with more than 100k on the clock is a risk. Generally speaking. One with both is probably a bad idea.

pappyodaniel · 17-06-2012 5:15am

rocky wrote: »

dat a$$

Butter Face!?!

bijapos · 17-06-2012 1:14pm

BeerSteakBirds wrote: »

How many miles has it got left ?

Sorry, i don't understand what you mean by this.

Saab Ed · 17-06-2012 1:17pm

DL plate could suggest its missing 50k but worth a look as a bargain load lugger.

http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/3504358

Saab Ed · 17-06-2012 1:19pm

And more Luxonomics ....

http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/3504309

NCT'ed yesterday .

Saab Ed · 17-06-2012 2:27pm

Holy God, here's another one ....

http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/3504892

Top Dog · 17-06-2012 2:45pm

I think this is the first time I've ever seen a Baleno estate! Didn't even know they existed!

BeerSteakBirds · 17-06-2012 8:36pm

bijapos wrote: »

Sorry, i don't understand what you mean by this.

I saw others which with 50k miles have to be clocked or involved in major shenanigans but this one is a 95 Registration and already has over 200,000 Miles on the clock. Great car or not, I am wondering how many more miles could a potential buyer expect to squeeze out of it in the future ? Sure I could even be a potential buyer if I was prepared to live with the tax and insurance but not if the engine will blow up within 6 months. What do the experts think about how many miles would be left in it ? I think it's a reasonable question.

Capri · 17-06-2012 8:38pm

Can we have a €1000 cut-off for Bangernomics car of the week/day - Part II , would that be a realistic price for a banger ??

Jimdagym · 17-06-2012 8:47pm

Capri wrote: »

Can we have a €1000 cut-off for Bangernomics car of the week/day - Part II , would that be a realistic price for a banger ??

Far too low IMO. Asking price of a grand rules out some crackers. 2k is perfect.

but43r · 17-06-2012 9:00pm

BeerSteakBirds wrote: »

I saw others which with 50k miles have to be clocked or involved in major shenanigans but this one is a 95 Registration and already has over 200,000 Miles on the clock. Great car or not, I am wondering how many more miles could a potential buyer expect to squeeze out of it in the future ? Sure I could even be a potential buyer if I was prepared to live with the tax and insurance but not if the engine will blow up within 6 months. What do the experts think about how many miles would be left in it ? I think it's a reasonable question.

200,000 miles is not that much really. Where I'm from, a lot of cars for sale from that era have over 400,000 km (around 250,000 miles) on the clock and are still going strong.

17-06-2012 9:11pm

Saab Ed wrote: »

And while we're at it, the best car in the world ever .....

http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/3278029

BeerSteakBirds wrote: »

How many miles has it got left ?

Not being smart but engine wise if it has been serviced correctly and continues to be you could be looking at another 200,000 miles easy

I don't know about the auto box on them but realistically what spells the end for a car like that would be the likes of it needing a set of tyres, an exhaust, a service and maybe some suspension work, it can get difficult to justify putting that much cash into keeping a car worth so little on the road.

You'd replace it with a much more modern Volvo 7 seater for under €1500 very easily.

BeerSteakBirds · 17-06-2012 9:19pm

but43r wrote: »

200,000 miles is not that much really. Where I'm from, a lot of cars for sale from that era have over 400,000 km (around 250,000 miles) on the clock and are still going strong.

RoverJames wrote: »

Not being smart but engine wise if it has been serviced correctly and continues to be you could be looking at another 200,000 miles easy

I might have seen it as a better bet if it had been diesel though. Diesels seem to last longer but it's a petrol engine.

17-06-2012 9:27pm

The likes of this would appeal more to me if needing a 7 seater and presuming I could come up with the extra €s to buy it....

http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/3496349

17-06-2012 9:38pm

A nice fresh looking C70 with a decent lash of NCT but taxing a 2.5 one of these would leave a sour taste when there are 2.3 T5s about ...

Asking €1299 in Dublin, 81k miles and 9 months NCT
http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/2898658

I Was VB · 17-06-2012 10:14pm

Capri wrote: »

Can we have a €1000 cut-off for Bangernomics car of the week/day - Part II , would that be a realistic price for a banger ??

Bangernomics is about the cheapest possible way to get around, basic cars at a basic price with NCT and Tax. Its used on here by people who dont fully understand the term 'bangernomics' its more 'i seen a car for sale thread'.

I've tryed to get it back to bangernomics before only to get shot down. They're happy with their wanked out 156's with no nct.

17-06-2012 10:26pm

I Was VB wrote: »

Bangernomics is about the cheapest possible way to get around..........

To me it also includes running a car that didn't cost a lot and selling it on without encountering much/any depreciation or maintenance costs relative to the time I had it.

I agree with your sentiment though to a huge degree.

Saab Ed · 17-06-2012 10:27pm

I Was VB wrote: »

Bangernomics is about the cheapest possible way to get around, basic cars at a basic price with NCT and Tax. Its used on here by people who dont fully understand the term 'bangernomics' its more 'i seen a car for sale thread'.
.

Define "cheapest"

I've been driving bangernomics car for years, usually some big engined luxury involved, and I'm in profit. Its cost me zilch, naadaa, nothing at all.

You're the one who doesnt get Bangernomics. Its not just about the initial cost or dirt cheap to run. Thats Bangernomics for Simpletons. Its about learning how to run them cheaply, knowing when to sell, when to modify to add value, knowing something is wrong and its time to move on and most importantly knowing a bargain, no matter what it is, when its in front of you.

If you can drive an S Class for a year for the price of a 98 Micra then who do you thinks the winner there. I know what I think, you can stick to cheap as chips junk if you want :cool:

I Was VB · 17-06-2012 10:42pm

Saab Ed wrote: »

Define "cheapest"

I've been driving bangernomics car for years, usually some big engined luxury involved, and I'm in profit. Its cost me zilch, naadaa, nothing at all.

You're the one who doesnt get Bangernomics. Its not just about the initial cost or dirt cheap to run. Thats Bangernomics for Simpletons. Its about learning how to run them cheaply, knowing when to sell, when to modify to add value, knowing something is wrong and its time to move on and most importantly knowing a bargain, no matter what it is, when its in front of you.

If you can drive an S Class for a year for the price of a 98 Micra then who do you thinks the winner there. I know what I think, you can stick to cheap as chips junk if you want :cool:

Not gonna start down this road again, if you honestly think that the cars on here are cost effective then more power to ya, but from what i've seen on here a alfa 156 with no nct is better value than a small Japanese hatchback with nct and some tax that gets sneered at.

Marlow · 17-06-2012 10:43pm

RoverJames wrote: »

A C70 T5 with almost 5 months tax (€400 ish) and 10 months NCT, 120k miles and asking €1850 in Meath....

Those Volvo's are brilliant cars. I had a vert of those. Loved it. Would definatly buy one again.

norrie rugger wrote: »

C70 T5, which is better? Automatic or Manual?

RoverJames wrote: »

DEpends on what your definition of better is, the auto would be that bit more fragile over time.

The self-adapting auto-box in those Volvos is actually very good and pretty unproblematic. It's really down to preference, but either are pretty much trouble free, properly maintained.

/M

17-06-2012 10:48pm

Saab Ed wrote: »

...........

I've been driving bangernomics car for years, usually some big engined luxury involved, and I'm in profit. Its cost me zilch, naadaa, nothing at all. ...........

All costs included (all maintenance/or lack of !!, NCT charges, tyres, consumables etc etc, not tax, insurance or fuel) I'm at -€6200 since Oct 2006.

17-06-2012 10:51pm

I Was VB wrote: »

........... from what i've seen on here a alfa 156 with no nct is better value than a small Japanese hatchback with nct and some tax that gets sneered at.

In fairness, only a minority of people post sh1t like you are describing.

Marlow wrote: »

............

The self-adapting auto-box in those Volvos is actually very good and pretty unproblematic. It's really down to preference, but either are pretty much trouble free, properly maintained...........

Cheers for the info Marlow

Saab Ed · 17-06-2012 10:55pm

RoverJames wrote: »

All costs included (all maintenance/or lack of !!, NCT charges, tyres, consumables etc etc, not tax, insurance or fuel) I'm at -€6200 since Oct 2006.

Ah but has it. I have to admit that all I've done is based it upon the purchase price and selling price of the vehicles. But have you subtracted what the running of, say a 1999 Starlet 1.3, would have cost you from the running of your bigger engined cars. Its still the same for oil, for NCT, for insurance (roughly once you're over 25) Factor in some increased fuel consumption and I'd still say I'm in profit....just

Doesnt matter though, for feck all more I'm driving an older but nicer car.

Marlow · 17-06-2012 10:55pm

The auto-box in the normal C70's are just autoadapting.

The ones in the T5 usually have a selector between normal, sport and winter. Fairly fancy and the winter program does, what it says on the tin-can. Very well behaved auto-box for winter driving.

/M

Bangernomics car of the week/day - Part II

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