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Why did they get rid of the glass milk bottles that the milkman delivered?

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,058 ✭✭✭✭Abi


    the birds used to peck through the foil

    Feckin birds again :mad:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 125 ✭✭Trail_Blazer


    Hagar wrote: »
    Do they deliver cans of worms where you live? :pac:

    No sir, they do not.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,112 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    No sir, they do not.

    They use Tetra-Pak now.


  • Registered Users Posts: 644 ✭✭✭Jeanious


    Thaedydal wrote: »
    I have an italia 90 commemorative bottle and a millennium one too.

    Three of the things that are comin with me to Hades are my Millennium milk bottle, my Italia '90 milk bottle and my other Italia '90 milk bottle (there was 2 types!)

    My oul granda had to build a little box with MILK painted on it to keep the feckin birds away from it!

    I do indeed also remember the orange juice bottles, never had one now but one of my neighbours used to get it fairly regularly. As well as that, i remember readin the little pink receipt that they used to give ya, and being amazed at all the weird and wonderful things you could get from them; cream, orange juice, milk, yoghurt, eggs (wtf?!!)....made all the more interesting by the fact that i never heard of anyone ever getting any of these (well apart from the orange and milk, obviously!)

    And in my neck of the woods, we still got milk delivered in 96/97 at an educated guess.

    Ah the memories!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,580 ✭✭✭Splendour


    rubadub wrote: »
    I
    We used to leave empty yoghurt lids out to be put on top, some people had fancy containers with fold down lids to stop them.

    Ah, this thread is bringing back memories...

    My dad was a milkman and wheras I loved going out on the round with him, I hated when people put out yogurt cartons to cover their bottles; it totally slowed us down! Didn't mind a one piece thing but them bloomin' individual things drove me crazy!
    Another thing I hated was when people didn't wash their bottles 'cos we had to put our fingers in 'em to pick them up-ugh!

    I imagine it's awkward delivering tetra paks. Bottles were so handy to grab out of the crates-four to each hand. Mind you, I also remember the bitter cold winter mornings (insert violin music here...) when it was very difficult to get the fingers working!

    Still, we could drink as much milk as we wanted (including the green top full fat Jersey milk-yum) and the tips when doing the weekend collections weren't half bad :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,191 ✭✭✭✭Latchy


    When all the little birdies died off from polution they had no need for the milk bottles anymore
    Thaedydal wrote: »
    I have a italia 90 commemorative bottle .

    I have that one to and saw one for sale on EBAY a few months back .


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,919 ✭✭✭✭Gummy Panda


    I believe the Living Daylights put doubt about milkmen into the general public



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 308 ✭✭PunkFreud


    You get milk delivered to your door?


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,108 ✭✭✭Electric Sheep


    Does anyone remember a brief fad in the 70s for milk delivered in plastic bags that you put in a special jug? Good idea in theory, in practice the crows soon started pecking them and bursting them. We all had to put biscuit tins up a the gate for the milk to evade the crow damage.

    Or, even before that, milk in the shops in those pyramid shaped cartons that supposedly kept them fresh longer? Problem was, shop had no fridge for them, so they still went sour in 24 hours or under in the summer.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,477 ✭✭✭grenache


    We got our milk straight from the bulk tank! Fresh from the cows tits! None of this pasteurisation mullarky :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,382 ✭✭✭✭rubadub


    coyle wrote: »
    the weird and wonderful things you could get from them; cream, orange juice, milk, yoghurt, eggs (wtf!)
    We had a separate egg delivery man.
    Splendour wrote: »
    I hated when people put out yogurt cartons to cover their bottles; it totally slowed us down! Didn't mind a one piece thing but them bloomin' individual things drove me crazy!
    Another thing I hated was when people didn't wash their bottles 'cos we had to put our fingers in 'em to pick them up-ugh!
    We put the lids out but we did clean all the bottles. A good few rinses not put in the dishwasher like Hayacith Bucket!
    grenache wrote: »
    We got our milk straight from the bulk tank! Fresh from the cows tits!
    Thats a terrible way to talk about your mother.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,262 ✭✭✭✭Joey the lips


    We got eggs from an egg man as well. He use to deliver a cheep version of the TV guide with them It was always wrong.


    The birds in my estate now chew through the fcekin cartons. Jesus they are resourceful.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 579 ✭✭✭spoofilyj


    I remember in primary school and for a bit in secondary getting the crates of milk bottles delivered in the morning for 11 o'clock break, there was also orange junce delivered. Mmmmm ice cold milk in the morning yummy.
    I think they stopped the bottles because of the amount of caustic soda used in sterilising the bottles, it was really bad for the enviornment and then it became cheaper to produce cartons which also required an awful lot less work on the part of the Dairy... CMP milk in glass bottles FTW...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,445 ✭✭✭Irish Halo


    Does anyone remember a brief fad in the 70s for milk delivered in plastic bags that you put in a special jug?
    You can buy milk in bags here in the UK, reduces waste. Also milk is sold in bags quite a lot in the US and Canada.

    I can still buy milk and orange juice in milk bottles here in the shops and regularly buy the OJ. I'm sure I've seen milk bottles in some shops when I've gone home to Ireland.

    Don't ever remember milk bottles from the milk man though just the tetra paks.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    Having withdrawl symthoms from no longer getting a milk bottle?
    Tempoary help is available LOL
    See: http://www.knottingley.org/letters/milkbottle_museum.htm

    ...and it had to happen sooner or later.
    Milk in a bag - as mentioned above!
    See: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-512190/End-milk-bottle-Supermarket-begins-selling-milk-BAG.html

    Apparently in the states, they make a big thing out of still giving you your daily stuff within glass.
    For example: http://www.mindfully.org/Plastic/Dairies-Glass-Bottles-Milk.htm

    They also produce an eye opening link as to why plasic might not be good!
    Link: http://www.mindfully.org/Plastic/Plasticizers/Out-Of-Diet-PG5nov03.htm


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 845 ✭✭✭yupyup7up


    Because of Aphex Twin "I would like some milk from the milkman's wife's t*ts.."
    :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,342 ✭✭✭Long Onion


    I blame the EU rabble rabble rabble rabble,

    No to lisbon - bring back our glass bottles!

    Those damn Swedes, inventing tetra pak and criticising our blasphemy laws,

    Those damn milkmen roiding our wimmins

    Those damn birds, pecking though our lids

    That Damn Mary Harney, drinking all our cream

    Bring Back DeValera

    Rabble rabble rabble rabble


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    Long Onion wrote: »
    Bring Back DeValera

    Rabble rabble rabble rabble

    LOL Stuff Dev, Bring back Michael Collins!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,399 ✭✭✭✭r3nu4l


    I was astounded to find that in the UK they still have milk men that deliver milk to your door. I couldn't believe it!
    Novella wrote: »
    What?! In the UK?! Still?!
    I have a milkman who delivers milk to my door! :)

    Actually, not only are there milkmen delivering to your door, they still deliver in glass bottles over here!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 ✭✭✭✭Run_to_da_hills


    As kids we had milk delivered on horse & cart. :)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,656 ✭✭✭norrie rugger


    The glass bottles had UHT milk, but nobody likes that because it's sh1te. :pac:

    Maybe in backwards land or something.

    Ours was delivered in glass bottles, direct from the dairy


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,671 ✭✭✭BraziliaNZ


    i miss them, when you got the christmassy tops on them in december, or when you came down and you could see that birds had been picking at the lids, awww


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,112 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    r3nu4l wrote: »
    Actually, not only are there milkmen delivering to your door, they still deliver in glass bottles over here!

    The big problem that I had in the UK, years ago, was living on the fourth floor of a Victorian building, and being too lazy to put the empties out each day, then having to suffer the wrath of the folks in the dairy shop when about 100 milk bottles got dumped on their counter every few weeks.:eek:


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I remember getting milk in bottles from Athboy when we lived in Ballyfermot, would have been until around 1992/93. My parents still have the Millennium '88 and Italia '90 bottles.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,044 ✭✭✭gcgirl


    Thaedydal wrote: »
    Milk men still do exist.



    Yes, they were gotten rid of like 24 years ago.

    I have a italia 90 commemorative bottle and a millennium one too.
    we have one of the italia 90 bottles in the glass case ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 61 ✭✭Arthur Peanut


    I found a milk bottle, It says M.B.L. on it, your common or garden milk bottle, it has letters and numbers stamped on the bottom. Anyone know what they mean?

    The numbers and letters are:

    IGB

    1312 1

    76


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,555 ✭✭✭Gillington


    Got Milk?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,836 ✭✭✭TanG411


    It means you brought back a two year old thread.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,689 ✭✭✭✭OutlawPete


    Novella wrote: »
    My milk has always been delivered in cartons :confused:

    How long ago was this?!

    When 'always' doesn't include when you were young, that's when you know you're getting old :(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,388 ✭✭✭gbee


    was the primary motivation to ban the glass milk bottle.

    Milk producers never wanted to move from the glass bottle because of customer resistance.


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  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 92,470 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    The-Rigger wrote: »
    They love those foil tops!
    What did they do with them?
    They cleaned them up, flattened them out and put them onto a giant parobola so they could focus sunlight onto wilderbeast and rebel militia, a primitive but effective death beam


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 92,470 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    Anyone else remember the cream at the top being so thick that the milk wouldn't come out until you got a spoon at the cream. And there there'd be blobs of it on your breakfast.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    The MBL I believe stood for Milk Bottlers Limited.
    Anyone else remember the cream at the top being so thick that the milk wouldn't come out until you got a spoon at the cream. And there there'd be blobs of it on your breakfast.
    Yep, this was because the milk was unhomogenised. Nowadays, milk goes through a homogenisation process which disperses the cream within the milk rather than letting it build up on top.

    The Athboy milk I mentioned in my previous post, when it moved to carton form, boasted that it was the only unhomogenised milk available, this would have been mid 90s.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 861 ✭✭✭yawnstretch


    Definitely tasted better from glass and the satisfying press of the foil caps - fresh and cold!

    Ah those were the days...

    /skims iPad - hmm actually, I'll take modern luxuries over bottles :)

    I wonder why milkmen were needed in the 80’s though? Was it cheaper in bulk or that it came from the dairy without shop middleman? Feckin' birds though - always getting stuck into the cream top.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,654 ✭✭✭✭For Forks Sake


    now these I do remember : http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=57113880

    Milk did taste a lot better from bottles than cartons


  • Registered Users Posts: 141 ✭✭WWC1


    One of our more "interesting" neighbours used to steal the glass milk bottles from ours and other doorsteps. She'd appear not long after the milkman had put putt'd away in his truck and off she'd go at high speed with the stolen bottle clink clinking under her arm


    We nicknamed her Dawn Run :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,575 ✭✭✭✭FlutterinBantam


    Could be this reason


    probably not though;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,018 ✭✭✭Mike 1972


    Why did they get rid of the glass milk bottles that the milkman delivered?

    Because the scangers used to smash them :mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,128 ✭✭✭✭Oranage2


    My nanny told me that the birds would peck the tops. I'd say its cheaper to produce the cardboard container so thats why.

    Also I think the milk tasted nicer from the bottles because back then the farmers didnt add water to the milk;)


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    Oranage2 wrote: »
    My nanny told me that the birds would peck the tops. I'd say its cheaper to produce the cardboard container so thats why.

    They certainly did, I remember my mother complaining about the "fecking birds." I looked it up once before, apparently there's a creamery in the west who still make unhomogenised milk. I think it's only available locally but I'd be curious to see if it's the same as I remember it.

    God I'm only 26 and I sound like I'm 56! :eek:


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 92,470 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    one problem with the bottles was that sunlight destroys riboflavin (or one of dem things)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,459 ✭✭✭Blisterman


    You think it's bad in Ireland, try living in England. They don't have milk cartons here. They have stupid clear plastic bottles, which never makes a tight seal when you close it, meaning that it invariably leaks all over everything in your fridge, and makes it stink for months.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,013 ✭✭✭kincsem


    the birds used to peck through the foil
    Tits.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,067 ✭✭✭✭Seve OB


    Getting used to the idea that not the entire Irish island is "UK Property" so to speak. I mean I've always known that - It was just easier for my ignorant yankee ass to categorize the whole thing as "UK". Now if only countries like Scotland, Wales and Australia can entirely break free from the United Kingdom to become their own independant countries, that'd be nice.

    Australia aren't in the UK. The UK is made up aof Great Britain (England, Scotland & Wales) & Northern Ireland

    Austrailia is an Independent country, it just chooses to remain in the commonwealth (god knows why, though there was talk a little while ago of Ireland returning to it, will never happen though)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,067 ✭✭✭✭Seve OB


    I remember them well, the red and silver foil top, pressing it gently with the thumb so it would lift off rather than pierce through, and they way the cream was floating on top, just made my cornflakes taste all that better. To reminise, if we have any cream in the fridge I would pour a bit over my cornflakes.

    I think we were still getting them delivered in Shankill before we moved back in 1997.

    I remember going on holidays in 1991 to Loire valley in France and we used to go up to this farmer to get milk from him. We had to bring empty bottles so it was coke, 7up whatever we could get our hands on and then you would just dip your hands into the tank till the bottle was full. Cold on the hands, but damn tasty milk straight from the cow!

    I remember collecting the foil tops for competitions and stuff, I would wash them off and flatten them out, I had envelopes stuffed to the gills with them, and at christmas, there would be special tops with sprigs of holly in the design.

    I remember I was collecting for a competition one time, can't remember what it was for, something half decent anyway, and you had to fill in a slogan, "Premier Dairies is the best because......
    Well as this competition was running there was a guy in the audience on the Late Late show one night who was a champion slogan master, won loads of stuff. Gaybo interviewed him and went on with the show until some punter rang in and asked him to get the slogan guy to finish the Premier Dairies slogan. Straight away, yer man went,.........because the cream rises to the top"
    I could never understand why I didn't win that competition.... sure I was only about 10!!

    Think the ma still has a few of the old bottles at home, definately had the millineium bottle, the Italia 90 one, but I think there was another special edition one. anyone remember, maybe Dublin city of culture or something?

    MBL stood for Milk bottles limited.

    We just got a milkman recently, nearly 8 years in our house and never had one round before, so handy, but god I wish I could get the good aul stuff again.

    If they brought it back, I would be happy to pay a quid a bottle. How much would you pay for it?

    Even if the did something mad like only sold it in one shop or direct from a dairy or something, it would be the one thing I would be quite happy to go out of my way to get.

    Lets start a campaign, bring back the milk bottle...


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,661 ✭✭✭General Zod


    I still have my 1988 Dublin Millenium milk bottle. I may have an Italia 90 one as well.....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr


    Amberjack wrote: »
    I remember in nursery school (laye 70's) we used to collect the foil tops and they were sent off to orphanages in Africa or other 3rd world places. Anyone else do this?

    Lots of hungry black kids going "what the f**k use are these yokes?"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,067 ✭✭✭✭Seve OB




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,821 ✭✭✭phill106


    Would think they would bring them back with the recycling etc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,522 ✭✭✭✭Cookie_Monster


    you can thank all the H&S hygiene nonsense for the demise. people don't want to use a reused glass bottle that someone else may have drunk out of...


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