Lissadel House Shut down

Re reply from the above - tnx

I know the first blog was a bit of a tour de force -- but having searched web re the closure (having been in the House on Sunday afternoon the last day its open) I was genuinely amazed at some of the blogs.

Anyways - lets hope the hope matter is resoved ASAP. Sligo is a small area, and with the exception of Markree and Annaghmore or Coopershill has little heritage in anything like good order. Tours around Sligo Abbey and Rourke's/Parke's Castle I leave a lot to be desired.

Plans for Hazelwood have to be applauded, with a reservation over housing density -- again private finance.

Look at the bigger picture re culture/history and tourism in the area, Sligo Co Co and Corporation finances -- they can't finish new Museum up the Mall (no money), don't have finance for new bridge at Cleveragh, are paralysed as what to do with O'Connell Street (no funds).

Sligo Co Co had chance to buy Lissadell -- choked or didn't have money.

To me it seems that aside to what I wrote previously, there would appear to be a sense of grievance with the Co Council (by either Executive or Elected Representatives) to get back at 'de Landlord class'.

Will be interested in statement from the County Manager et al.

Pity only half decent local paper didn't run a more extensive article regarding the County Council meeting, which according to Cllrs was a torrid and hotly contested affair -- they all seemed like pussy cats when asked on radio 'why and what exactly they did what they did'.

This affair just reeks of the worst time of typically Irish, typically Sligo small-minded parish pump nonsense, allied with so-called libertarians who essentially without any real entitlement think they can dictate to anybody who fails to be convinced by their prejudice, disregard and often small-minded ignorance.

UP DA ROVERS!!!!!:D

Hi Blackbestie -- thanks for the update from the Indo concerning Eddie Walsh's expressed interest in selling Lissadell -- real shame in the short and long term.

Going back in time I was in favour of State purchasing the house -- but they didn't.

Lissadell gets kicked from both sides, one side says all the original artefacts are gone, the house is a form of shell which embodies only relicts of oppression/landlordism etc.

Others in favour of a more pro-British friendly (revisionist) history say they are not interested in the house because countess markievicz was a 'bloody thirsty murderess'.

But in my humble opinion, these are the extremes of views expressed re Lissadell -- the vast number are just genuinely interested in it as a curious relict of our shared past and a day out, along with any particular interests they may hold.

If Eddie Walsh sells the house -- best of luck to him. But I think its a pity and it's a pity there weren't 10 more couples in North Sligo like he and his wife to promote this area (like them or loathe them they did the job wonderfully).

If, as suggested, the breakup of the estate part of their exit strategy then the gombeens who offered him this, as you and your 'informed'? mate predict(ed), a very lucrative compensation package (if he is the machievellian character some view him) then he must be laughing up his sleeve at the stupidity and blundering of Sligo Co Co, as representatives of their electorate, who offered him this golden opportunity.

However maybe, just maybe, he had a love of the area, the house, ALL the characters associated with that historic home and wanted to undertake the project because he is a wealthy, ambitious and talented human! Maybe that is hard for some to understand who shuffle through this mortal coil, filled with venom and bile. None of us know everything about the place, but its important to be fair and balanced.

Those who are informed, intuitive and reflective just might entertain the prospect that there is another side to the avalanche of infective that people, including this blog, such as Jimmy hold (by the way its nothing personal, Jimmy, I don't know you -- the above is mere crystallised theorising).

But back to the real world, Lissadell is closed. If its for sale -- its a bad time to sell. There are only 400 acres at Lissadell its mostly forestry and foreshore. I suppose some in cyberworld will say he will ride back to Kildare suffering this sheckles in his back pocket, god help them!, as if is is part of a grand master plan.

Now if he sells it lets see if the State, with a second opportunity and bite of the cherry will go for Lissadell -- however, considering the shortage of available cash outlined for current projects outlined in Sligo; allied with inglorious Government killing of Cancer services in Sligo and our local reps inability to a great deal about this life-and-death matter allied with others, I very much doubt it.

There are more important things in life that all this -- 2,000 in Dell have lost their jobs, that's mind-blowing. They can't pick up a canvas and try and sell some art for inflated sums, they live in the real world.

As for local yokels, when the Gore-Booths were threatened with imprisonment by the State in the 1950s for keeping 200 people employed and looking after their non compis mentis brother, locals and local politicans invited members of the Land Commission down to CARVE UP the estate under these elderly ladies' noses! This was when the Gore-Booths had alreay released 28,000 acres of land to tenants -- under the Wyndham Act, Sir Josslyn Gore-Booth, being the first in Ireland to do this reducing the Estate to about 3,000 acres. By the way, the local farmers were only able to buy back this land after a £100,000,000.00 Million buy-out with money provided by the British Exchequer, because tenants didn't have the proverbial pot (with payments staggered over 60 years).

When they got land around the Gore-Booth estate, what do many of these beneficiaries they do apply for planning permission and sell off their sites at vastly inflated prices.

This is the mentality of some of the people you are dealing with -- either etheral and transient or reactionary post-peasantry!

That's about it, I have my say -- looks like Lissadell is closed as far as the Walshs are concerned. I don't believe its bluster or brinksmanship -- he is independently wealthy of Lissadell, best of luck to the new owner, whoever they are. However, next time it might not just be roads that people claim they are entitled to pass that will be closed but the house and general grounds itself. When dust settles and matter goes to court, could go to the Supreme Court, I don't believe the roads will be made public.

But back to the real world -- the locks are up, 11 people have lost their jobs, local businesses are now not going to benefit, Sligo no longer has a promotional and cultural asset and we are made look like a bunch of reactionary fools, cutting off our collective nose to spite our face (for the benefit of a handful of faceless individuals how either had the wherewithal, finance, brains, ability or courage to assert a right of way themselves, in which they could have been assisted (as mentioned earlier) by none other than the Attorney General.

By striking a blow against tyranny, these snivellers sought a new master, the Local Authority, and cowered under the cloak of a tax-payers blundering democrarcy. Edward Said, quoted: 'The oppressed in turn become the WORST oppressor'. What an abuse of such privilege!

Again, take a bow Sligo Co Co.:cool:

Hi Dumbyear

Re right of way: Matter is very straight forward:
County Co seek to have road put on Co Development Plan:
Notice is sent to owners
If they object they go to Circuit Court..in Ireland this can be appealed by either side to the Supreme Court.

If Co Council feel they wish to create a new right of way owners will have to be compensated.

For anyone interested familiarise yourself with Ireland's planning legislation.

That's the situation in a nut-shell. That's net point.

All the rest is background.