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SU elections (Full time and part time) **MOD NOTE** POST #1 and #26

  • 12-02-2012 9:19pm
    #1
    NUIGHead
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2 ✭


    So watching SU elections around the country start off, first year in Galway and want to get some more info on the NUIG ones,
    Who's running and for what?
    What's different between them?
    When are the dates of nominations and election?

    ** MOD NOTE**

    Declaration of SU Allegiances 2012 - POSTING IN ELECTION THREAD WITHOUT POSTING HERE = BAN

    The NUIG SU election time has rolled around again. Please read the following post carefully and abide by that which you find in it so that our little forum can continue in relative peace....

    If you wish to engage in discussion in the SU election thread you must first post http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056567675 and state which, if any, candidates or campaigns you are affiliated/related/best mates with.

    Thank yousmile.gif


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  • #2
    bildo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 289 ✭✭bildo


    LOL!


  • #3
    TheCosmicFrog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,380 ✭✭✭TheCosmicFrog


    bildo wrote: »
    LOL!

    Nope, I've been thinking about it now for a few minutes and still don't understand the point of your comment.


  • #4
    Ficheall
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,034 ✭✭✭Ficheall


    TheCosmicFrog wrote: »
    Nope, I've been thinking about it now for a few minutes and still don't understand the point of your comment.

    It's internet slang. It originated as an abbreviation for "laughing out loud" or "laugh out loud", though this is something of a misnomer, as the user rarely, in fact, laughs out loud when using the abbreviation. Through overuse the abbreviation has descended into moreso a sort of alternative to "I have nothing to say".

    In this case bildo is expressing his opinion that NUIGHead's post is laughable, but, perhaps due to the pointlessness of the thread, does not feel that there would be any merit in detailing whether this is because
      the new user claims to be following SU elections, which are almost entirely pointless, around the entire country
      he feels the user is being dishonest in giving the impression that s/he is merely a curious observer
      the OP asks what differences there are between the candidates, as though there were somehow any that were both honest and different from other election candidates in any election ever
      if the candidate were truly a curious observer s/he could either simply Google the dates s/he seeks, or find it on one of the many posters which seem to be plastered all over campus in this inexplicable, unprecedented drive to encourage students to vote
      he has nothing to say, for a change, but feels obliged to comment nonetheless (cf. third sentence)

    That is my interpretation of it, at any rate...


  • #5
    bildo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 289 ✭✭bildo


    I actually did LOL at this. SU election threads are inevitably lulzy here at boards. Especially since the last one was heavilly directed at myself.

    Simply anticipating the huge buckets of lols that are bound to be extracted at this lolcow of a thread


  • #6
    TheCosmicFrog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,380 ✭✭✭TheCosmicFrog


    Ficheall wrote: »
    It's internet slang. It originated as an abbreviation for "laughing out loud" or "laugh out loud", though this is something of a misnomer, as the user rarely, in fact, laughs out loud when using the abbreviation. Through overuse the abbreviation has descended into moreso a sort of alternative to "I have nothing to say".

    In this case bildo is expressing his opinion that NUIGHead's post is laughable, but, perhaps due to the pointlessness of the thread, does not feel that there would be any merit in detailing whether this is because
    • the new user claims to be following SU elections, which are almost entirely pointless, around the entire country
    • he feels the user is being dishonest in giving the impression that s/he is merely a curious observer
    • the OP asks what differences there are between the candidates, as though there were somehow any that were both honest and different from other election candidates in any election ever
    • if the candidate were truly a curious observer s/he could either simply Google the dates s/he seeks, or find it on one of the many posters which seem to be plastered all over campus in this inexplicable, unprecedented drive to encourage students to vote
    • he has nothing to say, for a change, but feels obliged to comment nonetheless (cf. third sentence)

    That is my interpretation of it, at any rate...

    lol


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  • #7
    Lockstep
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,031 ✭✭✭Lockstep


    Full time election candidates:

    President
    • Curley, Paul
    • O’Brien, Will



    Vice President / Education Officer
    • Brusilovskaya, Tatiana
    • Fennelly, Evelyn
    • Kitt, Rory
    • Reilly, David
    • Stitt, Conor




    Vice President / Welfare Officer
    •Adebari, Dami
    • Allen, Robin
    • McCarthy, Sarah


  • #8
    Reillyman
    Closed Accounts Posts: 834 ✭✭✭Reillyman


    Looking forward to next week now, should be some good banter.


  • #9
    Squeeonline
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,560 ✭✭✭Squeeonline


    Vote RON!


  • #10
    Robbo
    Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 10,571 Mod ✭✭✭✭Robbo


    What's the current, hip slur to be thrown these days now that "Fianna Fail stooge" no longer has the same cachet?


  • #11
    Lockstep
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,031 ✭✭✭Lockstep


    I'd say the following will be starting out with a strong lead, although I'll be waiting for campaigns to start before I decide how to vote.

    Curley: Heads BizSoc and will get kudos for organising the Commerce Ball which seemed to go down very well this year. Got a strong showing last year so will probably do well this year as well.

    Stitt: Topped the poll last year but lost out on transfers. He's left FEE but has a good history of campaigning on mental health, fees etc so should be fairly transfer friendly between both activists and the general student population. Is also the man behind NUIG memes which should add a few extra votes.


    Allen: Former Equality Officer (went around with a megaphone shouting for Jim Browne to improve disability access), is involved with literally everything that goes on in NUIG from the Commerce Ball to the Irish National Law Debates.


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  • #12
    Ruire
    Registered Users Posts: 166 ✭✭Ruire


    Robbo wrote: »
    What's the current, hip slur to be thrown these days now that "Fianna Fail stooge" no longer has the same cachet?

    Given FEE are running someone for everything, I'm sure they'll conjur something or other.


  • #13
    Manco
    Closed Accounts Posts: 178 ✭✭Manco


    I'm voting RON for President. It's Joe Loughnane or nothing!!


  • #14
    Reillyman
    Closed Accounts Posts: 834 ✭✭✭Reillyman


    Joe Loughnane isn't a student in NUIG.


  • #15
    Manco
    Closed Accounts Posts: 178 ✭✭Manco


    http://media.giantbomb.com/uploads/2/24773/830068-thatsthejoke.jpg


  • #16
    Lockstep
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,031 ✭✭✭Lockstep


    Easy mistake to make in fairness, he still hangs around the university a lot and attends protests, Class Rep Council meetings and so on.


  • #17
    Squeeonline
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,560 ✭✭✭Squeeonline


    I STILL BELIEVE IN HEBER ROWEN


  • #18
    leeroybrown
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,563 ✭✭✭leeroybrown


    BRING BACK HEBER!


  • #19
    Lockstep
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,031 ✭✭✭Lockstep


    Damn Japan, taking our Heber.


  • #20
    NUIGHead
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2 ✭NUIGHead


    Reading up about it all now, finally the information is getting out there,
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKUuuCxX4hQ&list=UUCNZOQ-5aJu0LOZFYgX7lCw&index=2&feature=plcp

    And also
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N2beR4QcyUw&feature=related

    What's the difference between the other candidates?


  • #21
    Ruire
    Registered Users Posts: 166 ✭✭Ruire


    HEBER FOR PRES!

    He's great, our Heber.


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  • #22
    KittyeeTrix
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,239 ✭✭✭KittyeeTrix


    Please refrain from casting personal comments (in particular regarding appearance) on any of the NUIG SU candidates please...............

    NUIGHead......consider yourself warned:)


  • #23
    Reillyman
    Closed Accounts Posts: 834 ✭✭✭Reillyman


    What exactly can we discuss?


  • #24
    KittyeeTrix
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,239 ✭✭✭KittyeeTrix


    Reillyman wrote: »
    What exactly can we discuss?

    You may discuss the candidates running and what they being to the table in terms of policy etc but you may not make disparaging remarks on any aspect of their appearance (I'd imagine that goes without saying!!)

    There is however no personal canvassing allowed:)


  • #25
    Manco
    Closed Accounts Posts: 178 ✭✭Manco


    A complaint has been raised about postering early, with photos forwarded to the elections committee for review. it's a bull**** rule, but silly for him to let himself get caught out like that.

    **Mod note**
    Name of candidate removed as claim is unsubstantiated

    Fair enough KittyeeTrix, my apologies.


  • #26
    KittyeeTrix
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,239 ✭✭✭KittyeeTrix


    **MOD NOTE**

    Would any of you who have already posted in this thread please re-read the first post and carry out the relevant steps before continuing to contribute to this thread

    Thank you:)


  • #27
    Ficheall
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,034 ✭✭✭Ficheall


    Lockstep wrote: »
    based on the current welfare manifestos available online
    Linky? Preferably non-Facewank.


  • #28
    Lockstep
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,031 ✭✭✭Lockstep


    All up on Facebook I'm afraid!


  • #29
    Ficheall
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,034 ✭✭✭Ficheall


    Ugh... typical.
    Any available to view by anyone without an account?


  • #30
    empacher
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,864 ✭✭✭empacher


    copy paste and pm to you if you wish?
    I only got facebook a month ago. Apparently I wa mising out on something, an endless stream of invites to the most pointless event.


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  • #31
    Ficheall
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,034 ✭✭✭Ficheall


    Does that not contravene Mr. Sherlock's wishes?


  • #32
    Lockstep
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,031 ✭✭✭Lockstep


    Surprisingly, looks like the FEE candidates (O'Brien, Fennelly, McCartihy) have the best funded campaign: loads of slick, glossy posters around campus. Definetly more exposure than anyone else. They have the best record on fighting fees but their policies require a lot of cash (O'Brien wanting a fourth full time officer, McCarthy wanting free morning after pills, Fennelly wanting to end the assessment charge for students with learnig difficulties) which is very problematic given the current economic climate.
    Allen seems quite light on posters so far.
    Quite a lot of spelling mistakes on some of the candidates' posters too.


    Unimpressed with a lot of the candidates who are going on about how anti-fees they are. I've been involved with the anti-fees campaign (though I'm not a member of FEE) for years and have never seen most of these people. Then again, this seems to happen every year with candidates coming out of the woodwork to say how anti-fees they are.

    I'd also be a bit wary of any political or partisan person as Welfare Officer: it's a counsellor position, not an activist one. You need to have an open door where anyone feels comfortable coming to talk to you. Also, some of the Welfare Officers don't seem to realise that casework is the mainstay of their work. It's a focus on this that made Brian Grant so good at his job


  • #33
    carolmarx
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87 ✭✭carolmarx


    While I'm pro Mc Carthy (The girl is very very approachable and genuinely gives more of a shít about things than most people do) I'm really unimpressed with her policy of making the MAP free for all. Not only might this encourage risky behaviour, but it'll be financially devastating..I don't think she has an idea of how many of them are given out every year.


  • #34
    Lockstep
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,031 ✭✭✭Lockstep


    They normally cost e25, right?


  • #35
    Funkie
    Closed Accounts Posts: 22 ✭Funkie


    Have to say I'm not that impressed with the candidates, I think RON probably would be the outstanding candidate for all 3 positions.


  • #36
    carolmarx
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87 ✭✭carolmarx


    Yeah Lockstep it's usually 25 euro in college doctor... Pharmacy prices range from 10 euro to 45ish.


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  • #37
    BhoscaCapall
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,940 ✭✭✭BhoscaCapall


    I agree the MAP shouldn't be free. €25 is hardly a lot given the nature of what it is - certainly cheaper than a babóg anyway!

    Is the contraceptive pill free on the college doctor? If not, that would be a far more realistic and sensible thing to campaign for.

    Maybe I'm just being cynical but I don't think a majority of students think too much about manifestos and what have you. Plenty will just go "free morning after pill? Why not?!", after all, it's not them who has to work out where the funding comes from.

    Unlike in actual government where there can be quite polarised opinions and strategies, most SU candidates campaign for the exact same issues. They are essentially popularity contests, a competition to see who has the biggest Facebook network and the most effective promotion strategy. Which is healthy in its own right, particularly because they are usually all quite capable candidates anyway. Like many others, I'll just be voting for the people whom I'm friends with - because they're good people who deserve the success.

    Out of interest, has anyone ever campaigned for the absolute craic? As in, led a bit of a joke campaign just to see how many votes they'd get? I'd be interested to see how much support a campaign would get based purely on humorous posters. Can't imagine NUIG being too happy about it, but it would be a bit undemocratic to forbid it.


  • #38
    Canvasser
    Closed Accounts Posts: 290 ✭✭Canvasser


    Free morning after pills is lunacy, absolute crazy stuff. The morals of this University are really going down the drain. But on the other hand I do think the welfare position should go to a woman so I'll wait to see the other policies before deciding.

    Education looks a tight run race between Stitt and Kitt I say. FF v SF. generally viewed as a stepping stone to President it's important we get a competent person in there.


  • #39
    BhoscaCapall
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,940 ✭✭✭BhoscaCapall


    Canvasser wrote: »
    Free morning after pills is lunacy, absolute crazy stuff. The morals of this University are really going down the drain.
    It's got nothing to do with morals.
    But on the other hand I do think the welfare position should go to a woman so I'll wait to see the other policies before deciding.
    It's one of the downfalls of democracy that people like you are allowed to vote.


  • #40
    Lockstep
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,031 ✭✭✭Lockstep


    O'Brien a lot more high profile than I anticipated although I still think Curley will swing it but O'Brien isn't going out without a fight.

    If Kitt can transfer his voting energy and canvassers well, he's in with a good shout. I was a bit leery about some of his policies (for example, for someone who promises he will get kick start both fees and Irish campaigns, I've not seen him involved in any of these in the past and I'm an old hack) However, he did strike me as a genuinely nice guy and I'd say he'd do a good job.
    As has been said, I'd say it's a tossup between Kitt and Stitt for education.

    Adebari has probably the highest canvasser turnout out of anyone. Seriously large turnout and postering campaign. McCarthy has a good postering campaign but seems light on canvassers. Allen falls somewhere in between. I've no idea how welfare will go.

    BhoscaCapall wrote: »
    Out of interest, has anyone ever campaigned for the absolute craic? As in, led a bit of a joke campaign just to see how many votes they'd get? I'd be interested to see how much support a campaign would get based purely on humorous posters. Can't imagine NUIG being too happy about it, but it would be a bit undemocratic to forbid it.
    They used to be quite common. There were 2 joke candidates who ran in 2007 for president and took the almighty piss out of the process. Great fun altogether.


  • #41
    leeroybrown
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,563 ✭✭✭leeroybrown


    BhoscaCapall wrote: »
    Out of interest, has anyone ever campaigned for the absolute craic? As in, led a bit of a joke campaign just to see how many votes they'd get? I'd be interested to see how much support a campaign would get based purely on humorous posters. Can't imagine NUIG being too happy about it, but it would be a bit undemocratic to forbid it.
    There hasn't been a good joke campaign for ages. The last time I ran one with a few friends a couple of the other candidate's canvassers started having a go at me for undermining the democratic process and making a farce of the whole election. We had two joke candidates that year. A five minute electoral history lesson later and they'd quietened down a bit.

    I've wanted to run a proper R.O.N. campaign for years. Not the usual pointless anti- campaign but a positive pro-R.O.N. movement with real ideas. Make R.O.N. the (wo)man of the people and (s)he'd win hands down!


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  • #42
    Ruire
    Registered Users Posts: 166 ✭✭Ruire


    Lockstep wrote: »
    Surprisingly, looks like the FEE candidates (O'Brien, Fennelly, McCartihy) have the best funded campaign: loads of slick, glossy posters around campus. Definetly more exposure than anyone else. They have the best record on fighting fees but their policies require a lot of cash (O'Brien wanting a fourth full time officer, McCarthy wanting free morning after pills, Fennelly wanting to end the assessment charge for students with learnig difficulties) which is very problematic given the current economic climate.
    They really have no grasp of money. Free tea and coffee for all students sitting exams? Not to mention that the €500 assessment fee is actually pretty low, and most people are already assessed before they get to college anyway.

    Also, screw that whole 'buses to outside exam centres' lark. If you don't have the brightness to get a bus from Eyre Square to Leisureland, you don't deserve to sit the exam. Especially given that contracting a bus company would be more expensive for everyone.


  • #43
    bildo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 289 ✭✭bildo


    Ruire wrote: »
    They really have no grasp of money.

    Really now? As an SU Officer who has paid close attention to the Union's accounts and general spending and assets I would very much disagree.


  • #44
    Raging_Ninja
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,717 ✭✭✭Raging_Ninja


    bildo wrote: »
    Really now? As an SU Officer who has paid close attention to the Union's accounts and general spending and assets I would very much disagree.

    What does 'bring SU commercial services back under student control' mean?


  • #45
    Ruire
    Registered Users Posts: 166 ✭✭Ruire


    bildo wrote: »
    Really now? As an SU Officer who has paid close attention to the Union's accounts and general spending and assets I would very much disagree.
    How much does the assessment cost every year?

    How much would it cost to hire a private bus company per day for exams? (along with how much would the greater expense between that and taking a CIE/City Bus from town to Salthill cost the student body altogether?)

    How much would it cost to provide tea and coffee to several hundred students in at least five different exams centres twice a day, everyday for two weeks?

    And then would the SU be able to cover it, and if not, how would they find the funds for it?


  • #46
    Ficheall
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,034 ✭✭✭Ficheall


    Well, the signs beside that bull**** "music" tent outside the College Bar have ruled out a couple of candidates for me at any rate...


  • #47
    Lockstep
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,031 ✭✭✭Lockstep


    First day is winding down:
    Very strong presence from Curley, Adebari, O'Brien and Kitt. Both in terms of posters and legions of canvassers.
    Slow start for Allen and Stitt but things seem to be picking up, both have had a decent presence on campus, doing lecture shout outs and so on.
    Fennelly and McCarthy were both around today and did an absolute poster blitz but don't seem to have the same presence as other candidates in terms of canvassers.
    Few people out for Reilly, but I didn't see much.
    Saw nothing from Brusilovskaya aside from one A4 poster. Very low key it seems.

    Hustings are on tomorrow at 7pm in the Kirwan.


  • #48
    Canvasser
    Closed Accounts Posts: 290 ✭✭Canvasser


    It's got nothing to do with morals.



    It's got everything to with morals. Life changing choices should not be just handed out free without any thought or counselling! Start down this slippery slope and next thing you know we'll have abortions freely available beside the College Bar and sure we'll throw them a free carvery dinner while we're at it.
    BhoscaCapall wrote: »
    It's one of the downfalls of democracy that people like you are allowed to vote.

    :rolleyes:

    It's a well known fact women are best suited to the welfare position due to the nature of the job. it's essentially a job that is suited to women having a chat over tea and biscuits.

    Men have proven themselves more capable in the leadership role of President over the years it's fair to say. Tough decisions need to be taken there like Emmets courageous killing off of rag week. While Education is probably a sex-neutral position to be fair.

    Either way hope everyone had a fun first day of canvassing, Have fun out there and be nice to us!


  • #49
    Manco
    Closed Accounts Posts: 178 ✭✭Manco


    Another year, another troll account from Brendan Gallagher...


  • #50
    Reillyman
    Closed Accounts Posts: 834 ✭✭✭Reillyman


    Canvasser wrote: »
    It's got everything to with morals. Life changing choices should not be just handed out free without any thought or counselling! Start down this slippery slope and next thing you know we'll have abortions freely available beside the College Bar and sure we'll throw them a free carvery dinner while we're at it.

    Are you saying that the MAP is a form of abortion?:confused:


  • #51
    Ruire
    Registered Users Posts: 166 ✭✭Ruire


    Reillyman wrote: »
    Are you saying that the MAP is a form of abortion?:confused:
    Ignore him, he's a troll. He doesn't even go here.


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