Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 11/12-Jan 2012 onwards

K-9 wrote: »

No, my point was aimed at people who were happy with the team picked. You asked me who could play DM and I said nobody, Carra or Coady aren't options.

we shouldnt need a kick ass DM against Bolton, it should be them attacked and battered from the outset..we have a technically better team, but there was a lack of effort today...when Liverpool goes a goal down i never think that we cant come back..but we didnt even look like scoring and then they went two up.. game over.... we didnt give them enough respect....lack of pace, lack of pride..lack of drive and selfish players... arghh!! Many games this season, players going for goal when a pass sidewards could get a goal... and Charlie Adam should be a squad player..

I think kenny made a mistake buying the players he did.... shopping list for the last 10 years...2 pacy wingers, 1 pacy striker, 1 creative midfielder....
will this cost 100 million

cloptrop wrote: »

well im afraid liverpool are slowly turning into cannon fodder, they up their game for the big clubs and give 200 per cent , but from todays performance should they be rated any higher than the likes of fulham ,
Like go through the player for player , is gerrard any better than dempsey nowadays , they have duff ,zamora , hangeland ,
Honestly player for player I reckon there is very little in the difference.
I think the next few spends are very important for liverpool , if they buy ****e again the money may dry up , and mid table may be all they can hope for.I like to see liverpool just outside the top 4 , i would honestly feel terrible for them to go to pot .

are you having a laugh; duff, zamora and hangeland..are they better than anyone in Liverpool's first 11??

cloptrop wrote: »

Kenny hasnt got the respect of either by the looks of things and yet he will never be sacked, itll be a political minefield if he is, he will still be in charge in division 3 and everyone will be too scared to tell him to piss off.

On one hand, you imply that the fans or players don't have any respect for Kenny. Then, in the same sentence, you say that the owners won't have the bottle to sack him and seem to imply that this would be down to the potential reaction from the fans or players or someone else (not sure who else to be honest).

You are either a WUM or stupid.

There's a week left of the transfer window and we haven't signing anyone. Striker, DM, winger or attacking midfielder. Without at least 3 signings no top 4 finish. Can't we just forget Carroll. Thank Kuyt and send him om his way.

cloptrop wrote: »

Do you honestly think he is doing a good job, honestly
Will you call for him to be sacked? No you wont even answer no to the above uestion even though you know it deep down.
Personal abuse is not nice , i dont know what a wum is but im sure if icalled you it a mod would be sending me pms.

Not really no.

I didn't really want him appointed in the first place. As such, I would have no issue calling for him to be sacked if I thought he should be.

WUM = wind up merchant.

The post that I quoted was absurd. It was of such poor quality that one can only assume that you are looking for a reaction for other posters here. If you honestly claim that you weren't and that it was a genuine post, you aren't exactly a genius. Sorry, I appreciate that that is a bit harsh but that what happens when you post complete horse****.

Bring it to the attention of a mod if you wish.

cloptrop wrote: »

What about kenny and his never play for the club again speech,
They say Benitez was sacked mainly on the players wanting rid .
Woy cause the fans wanted rid.
Kenny hasnt got the respect of either by the looks of things and yet he will never be sacked, itll be a political minefield if he is, he will still be in charge in division 3 and everyone will be too scared to tell him to piss off.
I reckon the American has started to hide his money cause hes too afraid Kenny might ask for more.
Its like when a beggar cajoles you in the street with a bag of cans in his hand and he tries to beg money off ye and yer like , "sorry bud im smashed"

Sharpen up lad, this is very poor standard stuff.

cloptrop wrote: »

What about kenny and his never play for the club again speech,
They say Benitez was sacked mainly on the players wanting rid .
Woy cause the fans wanted rid.
Kenny hasnt got the respect of either by the looks of things and yet he will never be sacked, itll be a political minefield if he is, he will still be in charge in division 3 and everyone will be too scared to tell him to piss off.
I reckon the American has started to hide his money cause hes too afraid Kenny might ask for more.
Its like when a beggar cajoles you in the street with a bag of cans in his hand and he tries to beg money off ye and yer like , "sorry bud im smashed"

I may as well just say this to you. Learn to form sentances and grammer. Your posts just look sh!t. You won't survive in the trolling world with posts like this!

The likes of WillChelseaLinfieldRangers1990 should be an encouragement for you!!

cloptrop wrote: »

So you are calling me a troll??
Isnt that an offence, i got an infraction for that before.

Why, did I say that?

Charlie Adam had 45% pass completion today.

seanwhite20 wrote: »

Read what I wrote again. I said proper tackles, im not talkin about goin in two footed and breakin someones leg....come on the slightest touch now and players are rolling around in a heap. It's fúckin ridiculous

Thats not an issue with the tackling per se.

All I can say about today is that Adam is one useless cnut. He should be put down.

And I don't know how people can blame Carroll. When the midfielders cant hold the ball for more than 2 passes how can you expect him to perform?

eldwaro wrote: »

so basically ...




and were sorted

I don't geddit.

cloptrop wrote: »

My posts didnt get beaten 3-1 by bolton today.
My posts didnt look dominated by a team that will more than likely get relegated.
My posts would not look better with jamie carragher being in them.

Don't know ya, but this is the most childish post I have read in sometime.

I have a feeling Cloptrop is very young, or else hes not the brightest lad around. Its best just ignore him to be honest.

Anyways we badly need a DM this window. Yesterday showed that. Bolton had a free run at our back four on so many occasions and its clear Gerrard and Adam cant play that covering role.

Not really sure who we could get in this window though. We also badly need a pacy striker whos capable of taking on and beating players. Not to mention the whole scoring goals thing.

People always said Babel would never make it because his first touch was so poor. Carroll has a worst first touch and minus the pace.

Shocking stuff yesterday - hard to know where the blame lies....

the players (apart from Bellamy) were abysmal (second to every ball, standing off their men, waiting for things to happen) but Kenny & co. weren't much better tbh.

It was clear from the opening 3 mins that there was a gigantic gap between the midfielders and defence yet this seemingly wasn't addressed at any stage during the game .

The bench was fairly uninspiring as well...the substitutions were totally irrelevant & made no difference to our complete lack of tempo and strategy.

And, after almost 12 months, I think it is now safe to say that Andy Carroll is not going to be a success at Anfield. Leaving his price tag aside (not his fault), he just doesn't look like he knows where or what he's supposed to be doing on the pitch. It was painful watching him y'day...I think genuine Liverpool fans wanted to see him do well and have been willing to give him time but he's way out of his depth.

Ditto Charlie Adam - he's a decent standard Premiership player but not good enough for the level that we're aspiring to. Again, not his fault that we bought him, and I'm sure he's doing his best, but it just simply isn't good enough.

The league season is now a write-off imo. Very frustrating in a season where Arsenal and Chelsea have been so inconsistent. The prospect of a limp-wristed arm-wrestle with Newcastle for 6th place is not something that I'm looking forward to. Would like to see some of our younger prospects (Sterling, Suso etc) given a chance in the league. Time for Maxi & Kuyt to stand aside.

Hopefully we can raise ourselves for the cup games next week

I know people are disappointed with the results and play this last few weeks but I'm taking a long term view.

While some signings have been poor value for money (Carroll, Henderson, Downing) and some others have not showed much this year (Adam) I think overall our squad is much better than at any time its been in the last 2 years. Losing Lucas was devastating for us given how he had been playing for the past 18 months.

I don't think we'll get the top 4 this season but next season will be a better one for us given the stability now at the club and with some more targeted investment in the squad. Kenny Dalglish didn't come down in the last shower and he'll know what changes have to made and he won't be shy in making them.

He has spent a good bit of money but given that we sold 3 of our best players for about 100 mil in the last 2 years and 2 summers when there was no net investment in the team this was money that had to be spent.

I honestly believe that the last thing we need is another change in manager in the summer (4 different managers in 4 seasons? is that what people want to see). When you give a very god manager time and back him you will get the results.