Tonight With Vincent Browne Thread v2.0

jimaneejeebus · 21-02-2012 3:33am

Elmo wrote: »

Anyway Hook wants to see change:-

1. The moratorium on Elections removed (even though he gave his show a moratorium during the presidential election, for excaltly the reasons I agree with the moratorium, some peace)
2. Political Advertising on Television and Radio, but not RTÉ.

But that isn't change it is just more of the same.

I know u made loads of valid points there but I must go to bed.... just on the last point, I'm kind of of the opinion that there should be a complete and utter moratorium on all types of electioneering. There exists huge biases in favor of the person with the largest advertising budget, how good looking they are, how well they do on "I'm a celebrity...", how well they did in the eurovision etc etc

tayto lover · 21-02-2012 12:46pm

Lapin wrote: »

Should we declare our interests before posting comments on Boards ?

I'll begin by declaring that I'm very interested in Karen Devine.

You will have to fight me for her. I saw her first.

hotmail.com · 22-02-2012 12:18am

Abortion tonight!

Leo Dowling · 22-02-2012 12:20am

So much for gender balance.

JonathanAnon · 22-02-2012 12:20am

Moany Clare Daly.... Cant stand the woman..

take everything · 22-02-2012 12:20am

hotmail.com wrote: »

Abortion tonight!

Getting heated already.
Probably be more heat than light tonight.

Janedoe10 · 22-02-2012 12:20am

Heavy stuff .

hotmail.com · 22-02-2012 12:23am

Mary Harney hasn't said anything.

token101 · 22-02-2012 12:25am

Cant stand Clare 'Empty Stare' Daly with her skanger accent. I know the country has a lack of political talent, but jesus how did she get elected?

hotmail.com · 22-02-2012 12:27am

token101 wrote: »

Can stand Clare 'Empty Stare' Daly with her skanger accent. I know the country has a lack of political talent, but jesus how did she get elected?

Maybe concentrate on what she has to say, rather than her accent.

token101 · 22-02-2012 12:28am

hotmail.com wrote: »

Maybe concentrate on what she has to say, rather than her accent.

I cant it's too distracting. I'm not missing much I'd say.

JonathanAnon · 22-02-2012 12:33am

What about the accountability for the sexual activity of the hypothetical working class woman in your example Clare... fkn whingebag.. Will somebody throw Vincent the papers before I put my fist through the screen..

take everything · 22-02-2012 12:33am

They seem to be dancing around the issue.
Is that legal person saying legislation is not needed.

telekon · 22-02-2012 12:34am

Who's the fierce defensive grumpy one second left?? I think I hate her...and that's saying something when she detracts from Clare Daly beside her!

Silvio.Dante · 22-02-2012 12:35am

The lesbian abortionist's hair is very dodgy...

hotmail.com · 22-02-2012 12:37am

What is actually wrong with abortion?

Havermeyer · 22-02-2012 12:37am

I wonder what the ratio of science/faith plays a part in the views of the pro-lifers.

muppetkiller · 22-02-2012 12:39am

Clare Daly when asked about the rights of the child ..."what child ? it's a fetus"..
She comes across as such a warm woman

JonathanAnon · 22-02-2012 12:39am

Silvio.Dante wrote: »

The lesbian abortionist's hair is very dodgy...

She's going through her Ziggy Stardust phase..

MungBean · 22-02-2012 12:39am

She's not too clever for a doctor, doesnt even seem to know who's she's treating.

hotmail.com · 22-02-2012 12:40am

How did this woman become a doctor, can she form a coherant argument at all...

tayto lover · 22-02-2012 12:40am

JonathanAnon wrote: »

Moany Clare Daly.... Cant stand the woman..

She must have a bed in the studio.

telekon · 22-02-2012 12:42am

This doctor's argument really is all over the shop...

M cebee · 22-02-2012 12:42am

HT SCORE

ugly left wing lesbos 1 ugly right wing heteros 2

JonathanAnon · 22-02-2012 12:43am

Somebody put a newspaper in her mouth, for gawd's sake..

How did she manage to turn this in to a feminist issue... ??

Havermeyer · 22-02-2012 12:45am

M cebee wrote: »

HT SCORE

ugly left wing lesbos 1 ugly right wing heteros 2

I think you need to recount that score card.

All I'm getting from the righties is waffle.

hotmail.com · 22-02-2012 12:45am

I think the pro-choice argument wins tonight.

token101 · 22-02-2012 12:45am

Well I don't have a newspaper handy but......

hotmail.com · 22-02-2012 12:46am

JonathanAnon wrote: »

Somebody put a newspaper in her mouth, for gawd's sake..

How did she manage to turn this in to a feminist issue... ??

It's obviously an issue of feminism and womens rights.

If men could have abortions, they would have been legalised centuries ago.

token101 · 22-02-2012 12:47am

Jesus 8 abortions in a year!!

Technocentral · 22-02-2012 12:48am

Life begins at 40 not conception.

take everything · 22-02-2012 12:48am

Pity Vinny didn't manage this bunfight better.

Bullseye1 · 22-02-2012 12:49am

Oh God. Thank god I'm joining this show late. Looks like it was a good night to miss.

Technocentral · 22-02-2012 12:52am

hotmail.com wrote: »

I think the pro-choice argument wins tonight.

The religious types had a good run in this Country but its over, majority of people believe in a woman's right to choose.

take everything · 22-02-2012 12:52am

There's a decision on the Fiscal Compact referendum due this week.
VB show should have a field day with that. :pac:

Skid · 22-02-2012 12:53am

Leo Dowling wrote: »

So much for gender balance.

Very true.

He made a rant about trying to have balanced male/female panels a while back.

But it appears that Abortion Night is Ladies Night

Technocentral · 22-02-2012 12:55am

Just caught the end, but on a more trivial note TV3 really need to improve their Chroma Key (green screen) removal, people beginning to look like puppets on it!

telekon · 22-02-2012 12:56am

LOL. Vincent's look to camera said everything we needed to know about that last inane text...

take everything · 22-02-2012 12:56am

Pacino on a bender in The Sun.
LOL

Silvio.Dante · 22-02-2012 12:56am

Berry: No one has mentioned the babies

Daly: Whorra bou dem...

take everything · 22-02-2012 12:58am

Is Vincent drunk.
Asking the first woman if she's ever been to a sex party.
Mad bastard.

Technocentral · 22-02-2012 12:59am

take everything wrote: »

Is Vincent drunk.
Asking the first woman if she's ever been to a sex party.
Mad bastard.

He's a bit like the embarrassing uncle you can't bring anywhere, alright.

JonathanAnon · 22-02-2012 1:10am

Technocentral wrote: »

He's a bit like the embarrassing uncle you can't bring anywhere, alright.

Well I'd rather bring him out ahead of Clare Daly any night, bar Halloween.

muppetkiller · 22-02-2012 1:24am

I don't see what the problem is with bringing in Abortion in this country...After the 10 month waiting list in you go

Elmo · 22-02-2012 8:01pm

Technocentral wrote: »

The religious types had a good run in this Country but its over, majority of people believe in a woman's right to choose.

Here is my pro-Life views. I don't take either the Conservative or the Liberal view on abortion.

Society wants a quick fix. We live in a society that does not respect a Mother and Child. If a woman gets pregnant at 16 both conservative and liberal society look down on her. Conservatives say she was wrong to have sex, liberals say she has ruined her life. If a woman gets pregnant in her 20s out of wedlock conservatives say she should be married, liberals say she has ruined her career. Neither look at the men involved.

Men don't have to take the responsibility and unfortunately they tend not to (a generalism I know). We need a society that recognizes that after sex there is a possibly you or your partner will get pregnant (sometimes even when protection is used). You should take your responsibly, and not take the easy way out, society therefore should provide you with the help required to bring a child into this world. A society that also brings up men to take their responsibilities as fathers.

Have sex responsibly, sex can lead to pregnancies.

If you or your partner ends up pregnant be happy. Life goes on.

hotmail.com · 22-02-2012 8:23pm

Elmo wrote: »

Here is my pro-Life views. I don't take either the Conservative or the Liberal view on abortion.

Society wants a quick fix. We live in a society that does not respect a Mother and Child. If a woman gets pregnant at 16 both conservative and liberal society look down on her. Conservatives say she was wrong to have sex, liberals say she has ruined her life. If a woman gets pregnant in her 20s out of wedlock conservatives say she should be married, liberals say she has ruined her career. Neither look at the men involved.

Men don't have to take the responsibility and unfortunately they tend not to (a generalism I know). We need a society that recognizes that after sex there is a possibly you or your partner will get pregnant (sometimes even when protection is used). You should take your responsibly, and not take the easy way out, society therefore should provide you with the help required to bring a child into this world. A society that also brings up men to take their responsibilities as fathers.

Have sex responsibly, sex can lead to pregnancies.

If you or your partner ends up pregnant be happy. Life goes on.

You're suggesting that having an abortion is irresponsible. It's not. It's a choice.

Elmo · 22-02-2012 8:37pm

It's not a choice in my view. Having a child is a worthwhile thing. The choice is so narrow because in society we expect a woman to be married or to be in a relationship with the father. Society still finds it unacceptable for a woman to have a child on her own. We still hide the fact when a woman gets pregnant out of marriage/ a relationship we might suggest that this is not the case but rather a choice that a woman has, but I don't think this is the case. Society still dictates when is the most appropriate time for a woman to have a baby.

I am saying that we have responsibilities and we should be aware of responsibilities rather then looking for the easy way out. This applies to so much in Society today.

So I don't agree with abortion. Be responsible about sex face up to the consequence, having a baby isn't the worst that could happen.

hotmail.com · 22-02-2012 8:54pm

Elmo wrote: »

It's not a choice in my view. Having a child is a worthwhile thing. The choice is so narrow because in society we expect a woman to be married or to be in a relationship with the father. Society still finds it unacceptable for a woman to have a child on her own. We still hide the fact when a woman gets pregnant out of marriage/ a relationship we might suggest that this is not the case but rather a choice that a woman has, but I don't think this is the case. Society still dictates when is the most appropriate time for a woman to have a baby.

I am saying that we have responsibilities and we should be aware of responsibilities rather then looking for the easy way out. This applies to so much in Society today.

So I don't agree with abortion. Be responsible about sex face up to the consequence, having a baby isn't the worst that could happen.

You can't force your views onto other people. Whilst you might disagree with abortion yourself, I'm sure you wouldn't like to see the state force other women to do something against their wishes.

Elmo · 22-02-2012 9:20pm

hotmail.com wrote: »

You can't force your views onto other people. Whilst you might disagree with abortion yourself, I'm sure you wouldn't like to see the state force other women to do something against their wishes.

Life must go on, you don't force women to be pregnant its part of life. You force women and men to adhere to social norms. I don't believe that I am forcing my opinion on anyone. I believe that children have the right to life. I doubt that many mothers feel that they were forced to have children and if they did why didn't they get the snip, the same goes for fathers.

IMO Society is suggesting abortion is a cure to some illness of some kind.

I disagree with it, but I also disagree with the arguments from both sides of the discussion.

hotmail.com · 22-02-2012 9:37pm

Elmo wrote: »

Life must go on, you don't force women to be pregnant its part of life. You force women and men to adhere to social norms. I don't believe that I am forcing my opinion on anyone. I believe that children have the right to life. I doubt that many mothers feel that they were forced to have children and if they did why didn't they get the snip, the same goes for fathers.

IMO Society is suggesting abortion is a cure to some illness of some kind.

I disagree with it, but I also disagree with the arguments from both sides of the discussion.

Earlier you said you were "pro-life" because of responsibilities or some other rubbish..and now you've said you believe a child has a right to life.

And if you think a woman should have a baby even she doesn't want it, then you are imposing your beliefs on someone else.

Tonight With Vincent Browne Thread v2.0

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