Ssangyong kyron reviews ?

Wex1977 · 17-05-2011 11:16pm #1

I have read some very mixed reviews on these jeeps and am looking for honest opinions from anyone who has driven/ owned one. At the moment I drive a commercial Nissan x trail. I am happy with it but hate the look of it. Due to the imminent arrival of baby soon I need to get a passenger jeep. I like the look of the ssangyong kyron and I especially like the price !!! My budget will not allow me to buy much so I either buy another Nissan x trail or something like the ssangyong. I am looking at 2007/2008 models 4x4 passenger. I am not overly worried about resale value which I know is crap as I will have it a few yrs. So anyone got an honest opinion. How for example would it compare to Nissan x trail, KIA sportage, Hyundai Tucson which are in the same price range. Thanks in advance :-)

mickdw · 17-05-2011 11:21pm

Ive heard of a few serious enough engine issues with them. They are reported to have mercedes engine but it seems the engines are some form of copy built completely independant of mercedes and nowhere near mercedes quality

colm_mcm · 17-05-2011 11:44pm

Isn't it a 2.0 diesel?

Thought the 2.7 /2.9 engines were Mercedes copies alright.

Nissan doctor · 17-05-2011 11:44pm

There is a reason they only sold here for a few years, ssangyong were one of the worse made brands to go on sale in recent history.

andyseadog · 17-05-2011 11:51pm

So you hate the look of the X-Trail, but like the look of the Ssangyong Kyron, you really should visit your GP because that's not normal behavior.

I'd certainly consider a Sportage/ Tucson (same car) over one. I'd also consider most every other option, i'd place the Kyron somewhere between having to walk to work, and having to walk to work carrying the people I used to carpool with on my back.

Sorry OP, rant over

Ardennes1944 · 17-05-2011 11:56pm

my boss has one, he seems to love it, says "its a lovely aul bus" but i drove it one day and by god its horrible. he also doesnt have much luck with it regarding reliablity. avoid like the plague....IMO

L-M · 18-05-2011 12:30am

If the Rexton is anything to go by I'd run a mile.

There's a reason why they're cheaper than their counter parts

dan hibiki · 18-05-2011 1:08am

engine is not mercedes. awful ride quality, ****e brakes, problems with electrics and not light on diesel. go for the kia, imho.

Daegerty · 18-05-2011 1:47am

A boring ould hape

Koreans don't know how to make cars. They know how to make a lot of things, just cars aren't on that list.

jimmycrackcorm · 18-05-2011 1:55am

Daegerty wrote: »

A boring ould hape

Koreans don't know how to make cars. They know how to make a lot of things, just cars aren't on that list.

If every other manufacturer knew how to make cars then they'd be offering 7 year warranties. I suspect you've never driven a Kia...

Ardennes1944 · 18-05-2011 1:58am

They definitely know how to make cars, just ones you cannot enjoy unless there is something wrong with you

dan hibiki · 18-05-2011 2:07am

Deutschlandfürimmer7 wrote: »

They definitely know how to make cars, just ones you cannot enjoy unless there is something wrong with you

had a sorento. fantastic apart from fuel economy.

techie · 18-05-2011 8:02am

I have a Kia Sportage and will be getting another one when this one is to be replaced in a few years time.

Nissan doctor · 18-05-2011 8:17am

Daegerty wrote: »

A boring ould hape

Koreans don't know how to make cars. They know how to make a lot of things, just cars aren't on that list.

Kia/Hyundai make very decent cars these days and are in a different league to ssangyong.

I would give anything to see the Germans put their money where their mouth is an offer a 5/7 year warranty!:rolleyes:

Stevie Dakota · 18-05-2011 9:52am

Got talking to a hapless Kyron owner who bought on a whim and one year later was trying to find a way to get rid of the hopeless thing. Dealer was offering him a third of what he paid...

Twin-go · 18-05-2011 10:02am

Nissan doctor wrote: »

Kia/Hyundai make very decent cars these days and are in a different league to ssangyong.

I would give anything to see the Germans put their money where their mouth is an offer a 5/7 year warranty!:rolleyes:

Ask yourself the question. Why do KIA need to offer a 7 year warranty?

fletch · 18-05-2011 10:05am

Wex1977 wrote: »

At the moment I drive a commercial Nissan x trail. I am happy with it but hate the look of it.

Wex1977 wrote: »

I like the look of the ssangyong kyron

The Kyron must be one of the worst looking cars on the road!

Stevie Dakota · 18-05-2011 10:13am

Twin-go wrote: »

Ask yourself the question. Why do KIA need to offer a 7 year warranty?

All part of getting a foothold. But would they offer it if they didn't feel confident in their product, no. Will they ever pull it back to a 5 year warranty or less, no. Are their cars soon going to be as good as or better than most Euro makes, yes.

They are setting the pace and you can bet VW and others are more than bit worried.

EPM · 18-05-2011 10:14am

Twin-go wrote: »

Ask yourself the question. Why do KIA need to offer a 7 year warranty?

To gain Market share and dispel the idea they are cheap tat. They have come on a huge way and are a match for most models in their classes now.

Nissan doctor · 18-05-2011 10:17am

Twin-go wrote: »

Ask yourself the question. Why do KIA need to offer a 7 year warranty?

The answer requires no thought, its because they are confident that they are building a good quality product, and in general, they are so far proving to be correct with their confidence.

Have you been inside a new Hyundai recently?

Wex1977 · 18-05-2011 10:23am

General opinion so is to avoid ??? I knew they were priced too nicely to be good !

EPM · 18-05-2011 10:25am

Wex1977 wrote: »

General opinion so is to avoid ??? I knew they were priced too nicely to be good !

If it's too good to be true...do you need a 4x4? If not you'd get something spacious and suitable for a little one no problem.

Wex1977 · 18-05-2011 10:31am

Yeah unforctunately need the 4x4 and something with a bit of pulling power. Must look into the KIA sportage or maybe just stick with the Nissan x trail. Really can't complain about my Nissan but just dislike the boxy shape !

Nissan doctor · 18-05-2011 10:35am

Suzuki grand vitara?

billius · 18-05-2011 10:40am

Nissan doctor wrote: »

Suzuki grand vitara?

Have to 2nd this! Have one and love it. Not sure how it is for pulling power. It's only a 1.9 diesel, so you might want something with a larger engine. The shape? Well, not too dissimilar to the Xtrail shape in my opinion...boxy, but maybe a little more "car" like. I like the shape of the Xtrail though. Don't know how you could consider that Ssangyong yolk...but each to their own. Some people must like them as there's a fair few on the roads.

Twin-go · 18-05-2011 10:46am

Stevie Dakota wrote: »

All part of getting a foothold. But would they offer it if they didn't feel confident in their product, no. Will they ever pull it back to a 5 year warranty or less, no. Are their cars soon going to be as good as or better than most Euro makes, yes.

They are setting the pace and you can bet VW and others are more than bit worried.

They are only appealing to a certain section of the market with a 7 year warranty. People that purchase car like the would a fridge or a washing machine. Thats fine but, I can't ever see them taking maket share from BMW/Merc/Audi/VW etc.

Nissan doctor · 18-05-2011 10:49am

billius wrote: »

Have to 2nd this! Have one and love it. Not sure how it is for pulling power. It's only a 1.9 diesel, so you might want something with a larger engine. The shape? Well, not too dissimilar to the Xtrail shape in my opinion...boxy, but maybe a little more "car" like. I like the shape of the Xtrail though. Don't know how you could consider that Ssangyong yolk...but each to their own. Some people must like them as there's a fair few on the roads.

The likes of the kia/hyundai are all 2.0 diesel too.

@op, I'm not sure what model of x-trail you have but if you went for the latest model you can have a 2.0 dci with 170+ hp which makes it by far the most powerfull available for the engine size.

Twin-go · 18-05-2011 10:50am

Nissan doctor wrote: »

The answer requires no thought, its because they are confident that they are building a good quality product, and in general, they are so far proving to be correct with their confidence.

Have you been inside a new Hyundai recently?

I had a loner Hyudai Coupe last year for a week. Wasn't impressed tbh. Slow and uncomfortable. The interier was just bland and not really a place I would want to be for too long.

Nissan doctor · 18-05-2011 10:53am

Twin-go wrote: »

They are only appealing to a certain section of the market with a 7 year warranty. People that purchase car like the would a fridge or a washing machine. Thats fine but, I can't ever see them taking maket share from BMW/Merc/Audi/VW etc.

I wouldn't be so sure about that, there are plenty of people out there who have been burned by german marques often questionable reliability, expensive repairs and generally terrible customer service and are looking for alternatives.

EPM · 18-05-2011 10:56am

Twin-go wrote: »

I had a loner Hyudai Coupe last year for a week. Wasn't impressed tbh. Slow and uncomfortable. The interier was just bland and not really a place I would want to be for too long.

Their longest running model with roots back about 10 years at this stage. The modern stuff is a lot better. And they obviously don't compete with BMW and the like.

Nissan doctor · 18-05-2011 10:57am

Twin-go wrote: »

I had a loner Hyudai Coupe last year for a week. Wasn't impressed tbh. Slow and uncomfortable. The interier was just bland and not really a place I would want to be for too long.

The current coupe is from the old Hyundai design school, have a sit in a new 'I' series car or wait for the new coupe and have a look.

I drove a Hyundai Genesis in the US last year(unfortunatly not being released in Ireland) and I can assure you, it felt every bit as high quality(everything soft touch, perfect fit and finish, doors that 'sound like a golf':rolleyes:) as an equivilent 3 series.

Twin-go · 18-05-2011 11:05am

Nissan doctor wrote: »

I wouldn't be so sure about that, there are plenty of people out there who have been burned by german marques often questionable reliability, expensive repairs and generally terrible customer service and are looking for alternatives.

Every car marque have issues you only have to loook at Toyota and the major cock-up they had. If something similar happens with KIA and they have to honour the 7 year warranty it could see them go bankrupt.

For people that just want A-B transport the KIA may well be an attractive offer.

For people that want to buy a badge the wouldn't touch KIA/Hyundai with a barge poll.

Then, for people that enjoy their car as more than just a mode of transport the Koreans won't get a second thought.

R.O.R · 18-05-2011 11:11am

Twin-go wrote: »

Then, for people that enjoy their car as more than just a mode of transport the Koreans won't get a second thought.

I'd buy a Pro C'eed tomorrow if I had the money. But then again, I've driven one and am not going off what someone said down the pub, in the 80's.

Must mean I don't enjoy cars and just see driving as an A-B chore. Probably wrong choice of career so - thank's for clearing this all up for me.

Stevie Dakota · 18-05-2011 11:15am

Twin-go wrote: »

Then, for people that enjoy their car as more than just a mode of transport the Koreans won't get a second thought.

I think you are very wrong. Have you seen or driven the new Sportage? Ex Audi man at the helm of design and it shows, the car is very desirable and Kia can't make enough of them. If this is a sign of what's coming Kia is going to be huge.

Twin-go · 18-05-2011 11:32am

R.O.R wrote: »

I'd buy a Pro C'eed tomorrow if I had the money. But then again, I've driven one and am not going off what someone said down the pub, in the 80's.

Must mean I don't enjoy cars and just see driving as an A-B chore. Probably wrong choice of career so - thank's for clearing this all up for me.

Which one would you buy? and why would you choose over a Golf/Focus/Astra?

Twin-go · 18-05-2011 11:37am

Stevie Dakota wrote: »

I think you are very wrong. Have you seen or driven the new Sportage? Ex Audi man at the helm of design and it shows, the car is very desirable and Kia can't make enough of them. If this is a sign of what's coming Kia is going to be huge.

I've seen it alright but have not driven it. Any review I've read say that perfomance, ride and handeling don't compare favourably to the competition. Equipment and Price make it value for money though. I buy my cars based on performance and ride before equipment.

R.O.R · 18-05-2011 11:37am

Twin-go wrote: »

Which one would you buy? and why would you choose over a Golf/Focus/Astra?

1.6D.

Cheaper and better equipped than the other's. Cracking engine (much better than the abysmal Opel Diesels, Torquier (?) than the other 2). Handling is on par with the Golf, not quite up to the Focus or Astra, but not a million miles away.

I also think it's the best looking - until the new Astra GTC is launched.

Nissan doctor · 18-05-2011 11:38am

Twin-go wrote: »

Which one would you buy? and why would you choose over a Golf/Focus/Astra?

Because its cheaper, has a much longer warranty and is known anywhere it is sold, having been reported on by thousands of people with actual knowalage on the subject, as being every bit as good as its rivals!

Twin-go · 18-05-2011 12:00pm

R.O.R wrote: »

1.6D.

Cheaper and better equipped than the other's. Cracking engine (much better than the abysmal Opel Diesels, Torquier (?) than the other 2). Handling is on par with the Golf, not quite up to the Focus or Astra, but not a million miles away.

I also think it's the best looking - until the new Astra GTC is launched.

Fair enough, but it will also depreciate quicker so the cheaper part is relative.

EPM · 18-05-2011 12:05pm

Twin-go wrote: »

Fair enough, but it will also depreciate quicker so the cheaper part is relative.

You'll pay top money for a decent year or two year old one.

Twin-go · 18-05-2011 12:11pm

Nissan doctor wrote: »

Because its cheaper, has a much longer warranty and is known anywhere it is sold, having been reported on by thousands of people with actual knowalage on the subject, as being every bit as good as its rivals!

Who are these thousands of people with "Actual Knowledge"?

I just don't think Cheaper and longer Warranty = Better.

EPM · 18-05-2011 12:33pm

Twin-go wrote: »

Who are these thousands of people with "Actual Knowledge"?

I just don't think Cheaper and longer Warranty = Better.

Are you saying more expensive and shorter warranty is better then?

Have you driven any of the recent models from either? They are more than capable, the real turning point being around 2006/7 with the Ceed and i30 being launched.

coolbeans · 18-05-2011 12:38pm

I can see the likes of this stealing many sales from VW and BMW. I remember looking at a Kia Rio in 2001 and thinking that I'd never buy a Kia. Not in a million years. My mind has been changed in recent years as they consistently launch cars that equal and often better the likes of Ford, VW, Toyota and Opel. To be honest, and from your posts you seem to be biased against the marque based on conjecture rather than actual experience.
Ssangyong are dirt though.

Nissan doctor · 18-05-2011 12:40pm

Twin-go wrote: »

Who are these thousands of people with "Actual Knowledge"?

I just don't think Cheaper and longer Warranty = Better.

Motoring journalists mostly, and people who have driven them/owned them, or at the very least sat in one!:rolleyes:

Cheaper to buy and long warranty on their own don't equal better, but, when, in the case of the c'eed, they are as reliable, handle as well, are as well built, hold their value as well, are as economical to own and run AND cheaper to buy with a longer warranty then they could well be construed as 'better'.

illegalpower · 18-05-2011 12:48pm

Whats great about the surge in kia and hyundai sales is that now parts will become cheaper and easily available just like ford parts and this other than the 7 year warranty is also great. The new models are fantastic value for money and very nice to look at. I'd have a sportage without a second thought and the c'eed is a brilliant little car.

Some people will never be interestd in buying from these brands not matter what they do and thats just a mind set but it looks more and more likely that these two brands are going to become the biggest in global sales over the next few years which is some achievment if you consider where they've come from

-Corkie- · 18-05-2011 12:55pm

Ya the Sportage is a fine machine. There is a thread here somewhere on them. Anyone who bought one seem to be very happy with them.

Twin-go · 18-05-2011 1:44pm

EPM wrote: »

Are you saying more expensive and shorter warranty is better then?

I didn't say that

EPM wrote: »

Have you driven any of the recent models from either? They are more than capable, the real turning point being around 2006/7 with the Ceed and i30 being launched.

Hi have driven the Sonata in the States last year with the 2.4l 178bhp engine. Felt slow and the interior was a sea of hard plastics.

A friend of mine has a 2010 Santa Fe with a 2.0l diesel. I have driven it several times. It's big I'll give it that but the engine and interior lack refinment.

As I said in aprevious post the Hyundai Coupe didn't impress me at all.

Don't think I'm having a go at KIA and Hyundai, some recent efforts from Toyota and Nissan have felt cheap and nasty when I've have the opportunity to drive/be driven in them. And if my choice was between a Toyota Auris and a Kia Ce'ed I could be swayed to the Kia.

Of recent Asian cars I've driven only the Honda Accord 2.2d and the Lexus IS220d impressed me enough that I would be willing to spend my own money on.

Stevie Dakota · 18-05-2011 1:49pm

Well from what you've described all the Hyundais you've driven are relatively old school, even the 2010 Sante Fe. Hyundai and Kia are moving fast and their new products are leagues ahead of their old muck.

Zubeneschamali · 18-05-2011 2:11pm

Twin-go wrote: »

They are only appealing to a certain section of the market with a 7 year warranty. People that purchase car like the would a fridge or a washing machine.

The strategy looks to me to be aimed at the Japanese makes rather than the Europeans. No-one would buy an i20 above a Mini, but if it was a choice between a Yaris, new Micra or i20, I'd just kill myself
seriously consider the Korean.

log2billy · 20-07-2013 9:00pm

I am sorry, but I don't know where you get all this s***e from, lads. I bought a kyron in 2006, a commercial 2.0 ltr 4*4. I put 320k kilometers on the clock, and frequently pulled up to 3 tonne, plus having a heavy set of tools loaded. I sold it when it got to small for the work in 2012. I NEVER had any trouble at all. I got her serviced on a regular interval and apart from that changed only tyres and bushings, timing belt and filters. I nearly cried when I swaped her for a Nissan van. I NEVER had any trouble and will by one again. Also, I know of two more people in my locality that have one, and they never had an issue either. So why is everyone that never had one talking them down???? My wife had a Nissan X-Trail 2.2. We had only trouble. We bought a Kia Sorento 2.5 for her after, no power, constant problem with airbag, then we bought a passat, and guess what? 5 year warranty or not, she is a 2006 and still runs like a dream! So, for all of you out there, I'D BUY THE SSANGYONG KYRON!

coolbeans · 20-07-2013 9:30pm

log2billy wrote: »

I am sorry, but I don't know where you get all this s***e from, lads. I bought a kyron in 2006, a commercial 2.0 ltr 4*4. I put 320k kilometers on the clock, and frequently pulled up to 3 tonne, plus having a heavy set of tools loaded. I sold it when it got to small for the work in 2012. I NEVER had any trouble at all. I got her serviced on a regular interval and apart from that changed only tyres and bushings, timing belt and filters. I nearly cried when I swaped her for a Nissan van. I NEVER had any trouble and will by one again. Also, I know of two more people in my locality that have one, and they never had an issue either. So why is everyone that never had one talking them down???? My wife had a Nissan X-Trail 2.2. We had only trouble. We bought a Kia Sorento 2.5 for her after, no power, constant problem with airbag, then we bought a passat, and guess what? 5 year warranty or not, she is a 2006 and still runs like a dream! So, for all of you out there, I'D BUY THE SSANGYONG KYRON!

We had a ssangyong, a waste of metal, glass, plastic and space if not ask me. The dealer's mechanic said that he was leaving for another franchise because he was so sick of having to deal with all the bother they brought onto him. It'd take me twenty minutes to list the faults so I'll not bother but they included, gearbox, injectors and four wheel drive system. It wasn't a Kyron in fairness though.
They look terrible too.

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