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I found them all :eek:College Champs on Glendasan.
Map says it all really. 2mins on 3, control 6&7 were void due to wrong placement, then a haymaker of a mistake at 11... 4 god dam minutes. In four minutes, I could sit down, make myself a coffee, drink said coffee and have another one. To be fair, I was watching McCloy and having a laugh at this point. Should really have switched on. Bad drills.
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That makes me either really clever or I was so bad I happened to be in the wrong place at the right time
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May be of interest to some.
Contour across (red route), or drop down (blue route) to better running to be able to attack the control following the line of crags.
In the end, the lower route choice was safer and quicker, but if the contouring route choice was taken and executed well, it is potentially 1:25mins quicker.
Map quality is better in the link in the previous post.
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The colour of the tabs is the colour of the dots when in play mode.
In AutOanalysis, the "Blue" line is the quickest route, and then the second line is red or green with a +XXmins or -XXmins depending on if the runner was faster or slower across that section.
Autoanalysis has adds +/- sections everytime lines cross. In this route choice, we don't cross at all, but on routes where there is a lot of crossing, it helps to aid micro route choice.... which will hopefully gain you seconds in future.
A good example is here.
David A was the quickest on the leg (7:02) with Jonas (7:15).
Jonas loses 1 second, then they have the same time until the road. At the road, Jonas goes out to the road and loses 9seconds, before having a better entry to the control to take back 3 seconds, but he loses the leg by running extra out to the road.
The software is in the Alpha phase so it dropped a few seconds here and there, but overall, its bloody awesome software!
Hope thats of interest/use
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Also - corrected splits table and graph for Sunday.
The splits have being edited to remove all time between control 5 and 8. So when you punch 5, you leave control 8... as leg 6 and 7 were wrong, so runners mucked up 8 as they were starting from the wrong location.
Spent a few hours editing the file :P
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Goals are always an important part of training and racing.
Even if you don't openly admit it and are just racing for "fun", there is always an objective. Be it to finish, to not walk or to win at all costs regardless of the toll on your body or to excute a perfect technical race.
When you come up with a goal, you have to weight up what is needed to achieve the goal and justify if the goal is worth the sacrifice that has to go in to achieving the goal.
Are you willing to do what is needed to achieve that goal? If your not willing to do what is needed, then the payback of the goal to you is not good enough and it is possible that the goal does not interest you - it is most likely the goal of someone else. A goal should be a burning desire, something that you are willing to sacrifice for (it doesn't always have to be sport related).
Is it worth getting up at 06:00 every morning to do a session before work. Is the shifting of your body clock to something against what your training partners are doing in the hope to get the edge when it counts. Can you justify going to bed earlier, passing on the 5th or 10th mug of coffee? There are countless small changes we could make to get that extra 0.5% - but is the pay back worth it?
I wrapped up my XC season with one of my best results of the year. The course was pretty monsterous, the hills broke me slowly and I suffered out the remaining laps. Was it the absolute best result I could have a achieved? Probably not - I wasn't patient enough. Lesson learned.
I spent the next too days sitting around. Not training, not caring about racing. It was a time to reflect on what has gone and what still needs to be done. This morning, I was annoyed at myself for not training. I was being lazy and making excuses.
This evening, I read a training log - a talented GB runner got a stress fracture. Rushed getting back into full training.
Maybe I am learning to be calm and to trust the fitness.
Time to start looking at the next box to tick
WOC draws closer
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Do you have a relative lack of experience with sprint events compared to most of your competitors?
With the upcoming JK, I reckon I have speed for top 5, but I've no experience of sprint events and its likely I'll be technically sloppy which would cost be many places.
I've been going through routegadget and trying to visualise a run. No where near the same as doing one! 0 -
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My close up eyesight is rapidly deteriorating.
It happens at my age and the 1:5000 is hard enough for me to see.
I'm now using one of these, but it often doesn't cover a full leg, but it is easing my reading troubles a lot.
All ahead of you and need not concern you now you young lad
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Second pre JK session on the Bull.
Kept it controlled. An acceptable session.
I had planned a corridorO on the north end but the form lines and 2.5m contours meant I couldn't see sh!t in the terrain and it didn't go to plan so I bailed. No point losing confidence in the nav as selection races no. 2 draw closer.
Overall, happy with the session.
]Map: http://www.cnocmaps.totalh.com/show_map.php?user=c.hill&map=240
or http://www.cnocmaps.totalh.com/index.php?user=c.hill
or go via the awesome CNOC Website.. www.cnoc.ie
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Thanks for your analysis.
Here's my account of the 3 legs you highlighted plus 2 other legs.
About 90 secs in total for a 2nd place....
#4 brought me back to earth as I started out on my route I noticed an uncrossable fence in way. I had to retrace and then lost further time locating the flag. About 12 secs lost.
Again an uncrossable fence got in the way to #5 and I had to retrace. At least 20 secs lost. Perhaps best route was retrace back towards #3 and out to road.
At #18 I over ran my navigation. I was almost on top of control when I decided I was heading towards other hill and so turned back to where I thought my control would be to find what I punched was not the right one. I then saw my control. 15 secs lost
The other 2 I had issues with was your 13 and one near end just past the skateboard park.
15 secs lost at #9 with missing the route into control after going through dense vegetation. Perhaps would have been best to have accessed control from the direction that I left it towards #10
For #19 there was a skate park in the way. I didn’t know that the green found on sprint maps is private land. I had it in my head that it was for vegetation that is not to be crossed, such as gardens. I thought the skate park was the paved area on map and knowing that I needed to be north of this area, proceded to go north around it and then hit the river. With this the penny dropped. So had to relocate and plot the route to 19. 30 secs lost
There were quite a few top 10 Irish finishers down through the classes. There is certainly talent amongst us.the small bauld man of the Southern Mountains
He's nearly as old as me and you lot are stilling trailing in his wake. tut tut, does the truth hurt?
I finished weekend with a feeling what might have been, but also came away with confidence and a better know how of tackling technical areas, the like of which I haven't experienced in recent years.0 -
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:eek: I'm speechless....National 10k
So I ran the National 10k instead of Wicklow Lakes....
Everything a win or loseGot 1,000 miles out of a pair of racers, win!
Mullaghmeen in 2 weeks.....not going?In other racing news - Roar is a ********.
Final league table here. One single feckin point. ONE!!!! GAWHHHH
A place that would suit your speed and make up that point....
I mispunched yesterday, visited 11 twice instead of 5 & 11. I think first time I've ever mispunched! I'm usually careful in checking codes but had made map reading error, so was in a pickle anyway. Glad to get around though considering ankle. It held up well. Took it easy on anything but good paths, particularly on downhills. I think I'm still tired from JK, just the one tired run during week.0 -
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Same here, well not the annoyed bit,Mullaghmeen Map.
Ran hard. Got beaten. Annoyed. thought I'd been quicker, but I was lacking on the hills, perhaps a little tired from training. Note my errors, I had an almost clean run. Missed 6 by 5m, (ran right by it!) peripheral vision out of glasses is bad and the 2nd depression at 8 stumped me because it was hidden by the route line
Pretty bad there alright. I was going round as I usually avoid brambles like the plague but saw an opening and went. Hit brambles where the map said clear....Map lacked consistancy with the brambles. Straight to 15 (through the brambles) was clean, going around was hidious!0 -
Its difficult to sum up the past month in terms of racing.
There have being highs and low and moral crushing exams.
Since Mullaghmeen my life revolved around my thesis.
That got put to bed and it was off to Inch Strand to race at the Irish Orienteering Champs Relay. The boys gave me a +5min lead and I threw it away with sloppy orienteering and unused legs. Sh!t happens.
Then it was into the auld exams.
Mid way through exams I went south and ran the Leinster 10k
From my training logLeinster Senior Road Championships.
Ken really wanted a team, so I said I'd give them a lash.
Went off slightly harder than intended. Ken and some DSD guy went off for the fight for gold, I was in the pack for 3rd.
Some LV dude was out in front, a pack formed on my shoulder and we hunted him down. Caught him at 3k and the pace settled. John Canning (Newbridge AC) went off the front and caught Catch Grennin (Tullamore) and it was game on as my bunch tried to reel them in. Going through 5km, it was strung out in a straight line.
I jumped out of the line and pushed the pace as we dropped down the hill.
Catch came back to us and I knew that someone in this group could take 3rd. John was still a bit in front but catchable. At around 7.5k, Catch went for it again and the group splintered. The group I was in was now every man for himself. Everyone knew they could medal but we were running out of time. As the distance ticked down, I knew we couldn't catch John and Catch was looking difficult.
It ended up being a 3 horse race for 5th. I got dropped going up the hill at 9km, but managed to get back Darren Spring of LV as we neared the end. Couldn't catch the other guy. Maybe 5m in it at the end.
Ken won (31:59), Canning 3rd (33:36), mise 6th.
Turned out Phil dropped out injured. Bit ****, but there things happen.
Happy with how the day went. More positives than negatives, ever if the time is a bit ****.
Splits
3:03, 19, 18, 48, 15, 21, 19, 34, 38, 24
Exams ended and a 1.5 Mile TT was the order of the day
Bashed out 7:33. Nothing to write home about.
Then it was off to Scotland for the Irish World Champs Selection races.
Friday evening was an awesome run around Craigendarroch. A small beautiful forest on the edge of the Cairngorms.
Saturday was the Long Distance of Death. 19.5km with 960m of the vertical stuff. Just didn't have the legs for it following my 8 weeks of nothingness during my exams. Map.
Sunday dawned bright and windy. Awesome conditions for a shake out while racing the Scottish Relay Championships. I was running on a mix match Irish team that was entered for the craic! I had a solid run, but kept it easy on the climbs given I still had two races to go in the selection races.
Map, beautiful forest. Can't fault the planning either. Good gaffles and great head to head racing.
With that done and done, it was show time for the Irish WOC Sprint Selection race. This was the race I wanted to win and I wanted to win well. I wasn't planning on any sort of second place.
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With the Sprint race selection up for grabs, as far as I was concerned, it was show time. Time to unleash everything in a perfectly controlled race that was perfection and to put Mr. S in his place and place myself number 1 on the Squad list for Selection.
It kicked off with the usual quarantine where everyone is housed so the start is hidden. Just like the Worlds. Warmed up, felt rough, so I knew things were good.
Through the start box. Control codes, jog to the start. Around the bend and into the open area. Spectators to my left. Map in front. Start kite in front again.
3. Hand on map and emit on the start. 2. eyes glued to the clock. 1. Heart is racing. 0. Legs start turning, heart rate is up. Running down the funnel. Scanning the map. I can't locate the start on the map. Where the fuxk is the start triangle. I see number 10 and work my way back. Suddenly I'm at the start kite. I still haven't found the start on the map. The printing is faint. I see the triangle and try to get my barings. My world has stopped. After an age, I still haven't figured out where I am meant to be going.
Panic, Panic. I stood still for 20-25 seconds. These were the longest that I can remember. Eventually, I just ran off in a random direction. As I was running, things clicked and I knew where I was meant to be going. Needless to say, I still made a hash of things.
I got into the flow and began to run reasonably well. I had 1 nasty overshoot on 17, costing me a further 30sec, but, thats life. In the end, I finished 2nd Irish behind Nick. I was bitter, pissed off and just plain angry.
Map part 1 and part 2.
Tuesday was the Middle selection.
To save excess typing on my behalf, I am just going to copy paste my logOrienteering Race (SOC Middle) 40:06 mins
6.66 km (6:01 / km) +190m 5:16 / km
ahr:174 max:184 spiked:16/23c shoes: Inov8 Oroc 230
So this race was really fun.
Few misses and not perfect lines and was dropping seconds left right and center, but I felt as if I had good running speed.
For a lot of it I was running slightly too fast for my map reading to keep up but I held it together mostly.
Probably could have run straighter lines in places, but I was trying to make line features out of stuff to keep running speed up more so that trying to go point to point.
I got sloppy at the end and my splits take a dive after control 14 where I decided that I was getting tired. After 19, I just lost all confidence for some reason and took silly lines to 20 and a tour of the world to 21.
Fairly happy, but nothing to write home about. Lack of any sort of O showed.
1- 40sec, 2 - 10sec, 12 - 10sec, 15 - 20sec, 20 - 30sec, 22 - 30sec
Map
It was a super cool sanddune/ thick forest map with crap visibility. Just plain auld good fun.
Onwards to Swiss!!! Sprint, Middle and Relay. Its gona be great!
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Congrats on your selection. While I see you had bigger goals, esp with regard to sprint, but getting to WOC must have bottom line? And this was achieved.
And what better place to upstage Mr. S
I have always thought that the start triangle should be on the map that you look at at -2 min. It should not be an O skill to locate this.0 -
Congrats on your selection. While I see you had bigger goals, esp with regard to sprint, but getting to WOC must have bottom line? And this was achieved.
And what better place to upstage Mr. S
I have always thought that the start triangle should be on the map that you look at at -2 min. It should not be an O skill to locate this.
Cheers. Getting to WOC is step one. Step 2 is qualifying for the Final. While step 3 is written down on a little piece of paper that sits in botton of a press in my room.
Before you can complete step two, you must first complete step one.
Although I believe step 3 is possible, there is first the problem of making the final, which is by no means easy. A lot of fitness, a technically solid race and a little help from Lady Luck will help with that.
It appears to be ingrained within the juniors that you must go to Scandi if you want to make a final. I hope that mindset will be changed in the coming years.
I think my reason for making the mistake at the start kite was not seeing a copy of the map in the start box. Usually you see the map you will receive in the box and you can figure out where the start will be and then you can get a general idea of where you are headed - but not in this case. I didn't realise this until after when I was wondering why I made such a hash of the start/first control.
Its not an O skill to find the start kite, but it is to orientating yourself under extreme pressure.0 -
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