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SWTOR: 2 months on, who's still playing

  • 20-02-2012 1:58pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,880 ✭✭✭


    So, over the last 2 months since TOR launched, it's seen a lot of people getting very disatisfied, and I've noticed the game getting a bit quieter on the inside as well. So who's still around?

    If anyone thinks a poll option is missing, please post in thread with it and I'll add it.

    Are you still playing TOR? 73 votes

    Still playing it, still subbed and still having fun.
    0% 0 votes
    Still playing, but just till my sub runs out.
    68% 50 votes
    Cancelled my sub, but I'll be back in a few months once they fix it.
    10% 8 votes
    Cancelled my sub, not coming back.
    20% 15 votes


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Comments

  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 23,213 Mod ✭✭✭✭Kiith


    I'm subbed for another 30-40 odd days, but i've not logged in for a week or two. I enjoyed the game, but it's just not enough. And i'd not necessarily blame TOR, just mmo's in general. They really just don't do anything for me at the moment. Until we get one that does something very different, i'm pretty much done with the genre.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,376 ✭✭✭Anyone


    Still playing, still enjoying it. However, I'm not sure what to do once I have levelled. I have 3 chars on the go right now, and enjoying all 3. But I'm a bit wary of getting too involved in it, as I dont want a re-occurance of my WoW addiction :p


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,880 ✭✭✭Raphael


    TBH Kiith I think that's a big culprit for player number drop off - TOR is a very samey MMO, and doesn't have the polish of any more established ones that have had time to work out their kinks.

    Now that I've hit 50, my time is roughly split between RP, levelling alts, and doing Hardmodes, but I'm only playing once or twice a week now, so I don't need as much content to get me by.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 742 ✭✭✭Loco


    The servers are defo not populated enough. They could do with merging a few of them, if that is possible.

    It gets extremely boring wandering around empty planets and I'm tired of constantly spamming LFG on guild/general chat with no responses!

    I haven't even managed to do a raid yet, as each of the ones I have tried joining up in didn't get enough players.

    After level 30 its all the same really - kill 25, kill 50, destroy box, kill boss etc.

    I hit 50 with a sorceror, and tried to start an alt but got bored.

    Already back on BF3!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 412 ✭✭Akarinn


    Ditch the game.. Its not worth it, mmo's are dead for me now, WoW destroyed that. Everytime i play a new mmo i just go back to thinking , what has this got that WoW doesnt.. So really, as some1 said above..
    Until we get one that does something very different, i'm pretty much done with the genre.

    This is soo true.. Get away from mmo's for a couple of years, and hopefully when you/we return things will be different.. Currently im sick of them, and i dont see any reason to continue playing.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,834 ✭✭✭Welease


    Still playing.. only log in to do the pvp daily.. Grinding out the last couple of pvp levels to level 60..

    I'll keep the sub up and running, as no other game interests me (not that this does much either).. but they need to do something with ilum fast.. There is absolutely no pvp end game..

    Luckily I have a rake of xbox and wii games that need immediate attention :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,929 ✭✭✭✭ShadowHearth


    like most i guess. nothing new i can tell here, i already said about it other thread.

    SWTOR is a SOLID MMORPG, unfortunately this will atract only new to mmorpg people, those who were around the block will just see the same stuff only wraped in SW universe.

    its a great game, but mmorpgs ran out of steam for me. i am back to BF3 now.

    i dont think i will ever start any more mmorpgs unless those are just pure sex and drops something new to the mmorpgs world. after 5 years of WoW slavery i am enjoying gaming once again! :D

    oh yeah, way too much money wasted on mmorpgs which did not took off:

    AoC
    warhammer online
    AOIN
    Now SWTOR too...


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 14,715 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dcully


    Have to disagree with you shadowhearth, its far from "a solid mmo" or a "great game"
    Its more like a single player game than an mmo,there just so much wrong with it i really havent time to list lol.


  • Registered Users Posts: 40 Cillo rs200


    I've still subbed, although I haven't played in around a week and i'll more than likely cancel my sub after this month. I think the stories are great but I just don't have the drive to burn through the very generic side quests. The WOW like clone controls were a major turn off too, I imagined controls a bit like the force unleashed when I seen the first few cinematic trailers....I am hearing good things about teras combat however


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,984 ✭✭✭Venom


    As big a fan as I am of both MMOs and Star Wars I just can't see myself going back to SWTOR. The sheer amount of flawed game design ranging from the huge amount of instancing, dull gameplay and boring combat are things I can't see Bioware being able to fix with just patches.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,932 ✭✭✭YouSavedMyLife


    Still playing and enjoying it. Although we just killed SOA on Nightmare tonight so that means we have all content clear on Nightmare so it could indeed get boring for me simply farming raid content. New patch coming out next month with a new raid so hopefully its decent, but how long will a single raid dungeon tide me over till the next raid? I think im gonna get off the ride when Diablo 3 or Tera is released.

    As far as people thinking its a single player game with the amount of instancing in it, i do agree......for leveling. But when your doing endgame the social aspect and grouping really picks up. And yeah it is very much a WOW clone in Star Wars skin, but if you jumped straight over from WOW i can see how you could get jaded fast with SWTOR. I on the other hand havent played an MMO in over 3 years so it feels reasonably fresh for me.

    PVP in SWTOR doesnt interest me at all. Actually its terrible.


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 28,633 Mod ✭✭✭✭Shiminay


    I got a 6 month sub and I don't regret it. I've been side tracked by other games atm, but am looking forward to getting back into it.

    As an aside, I tried playing WoW the other day and thought it was appallingly dull and boring compared to Star Wars, so I guess it's a "generation" thing as to who like what :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,748 ✭✭✭Dermighty


    I am subscribed until the end of March though I haven't logged in since the end of January.

    Just not worth the time at the moment, very plain and monotonous, I have a level 42 Powertech Bounty Hunter.


  • Registered Users Posts: 26 November One


    Still delightfully hooked on this.

    It's been years since I played Wow and while of course I can spot the similarities I can't help but feel this game is a drastic improvement.

    While I can understand a few of the complaints aimed at it, I'm failing to grasp the reason for the huge amount of butt hurt on this forum. I was expecting a story driven Star Wars MMO that borrowed it's combat from WoW's formula (if it aint broke don't fix it!), and that's exactly what I got. People that were expecting revolution instead of evolution clearly spent no time following the development of this game.


    That being said my highest level character is only 42 so I haven't experienced how great or terrible the end game is, then again I'm enjoying the story-heavy single player style of leveling (with a healthy dose of PvP to break it up) so odds are once I ding 50 if there's a lack of content I'll happily just role a new toon to experience that class's story. The games only out 2 months, it's obviously gonna take time to flesh out the full end game experience.

    My primary fear is that so many people played Wow for so long that in their eyes nothing will ever compare to it. Don't get me wrong it was a genre defining game and I doubt any other will reach the dizzying subscription heights it had, but it's now 8 years old and the age is certainly showing. It's time for people to move on. So long as there isn't a mass exodus back to the kung fu panda expansion I'm confident SWTOR will do fine.

    Just my €0.02


  • Registered Users Posts: 316 ✭✭Omphin



    While I can understand a few of the complaints aimed at it, I'm failing to grasp the reason for the huge amount of butt hurt on this forum. I was expecting a story driven Star Wars MMO that borrowed it's combat from WoW's formula (if it aint broke don't fix it!), and that's exactly what I got. People that were expecting revolution instead of evolution clearly spent no time following the development of this game.

    The games only out 2 months, it's obviously gonna take time to flesh out the full end game experience.

    My primary fear is that so many people played Wow for so long that in their eyes nothing will ever compare to it. Don't get me wrong it was a genre defining game and I doubt any other will reach the dizzying subscription heights it had, but it's now 8 years old and the age is certainly showing. It's time for people to move on. So long as there isn't a mass exodus back to the kung fu panda expansion I'm confident SWTOR will do fine.

    Just my €0.02

    I agree. I'm still playing the game and still having fun. There are issues, everyone can see but the amount of qq on these forums over the game amazes me. The game is only out 2 months its needs alot of fixing and it was pushed out prematurely. But for the love of god I will not return to a seven year old WoW just cause its safe. I'll stick with SWTOR cause im patient enough to know things will get fixed and WoW wasnt built in a day.

    Till then I'm happy to play alts to see the different stories, play some pvp, experience some of the endgame pve. Unlike WoW theres enough to keep me entertained in SWTOR till they fix alot of the known issues. And im also looking forward to guild wars 2


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 14,715 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dcully


    While I can understand a few of the complaints aimed at it, I'm failing to grasp the reason for the huge amount of butt hurt on this forum. I was expecting a story driven Star Wars MMO that borrowed it's combat from WoW's formula (if it aint broke don't fix it!), and that's exactly what I got. People that were expecting revolution instead of evolution clearly spent no time following the development of this game.

    I assure you very few longterm mmo players were expected anything massively different than whats already available, we were expecting the game to be semi decent.
    Its not even anywhere remotely near a solid mmo, the list of flaws is literally endless.
    It is an absolute disaster as far as im concerned,they got practically everything wrong, its actually shocking just how wrong they got it.
    The issues are so deep rooted i seriously doubt patching can fix it.
    After 3 weeks solid playtime i predicted this game would be the single biggest failed mmo in many a year with a massive drop off in players, ive yet to see anything to suggest i could be wrong.
    Id go so far as to say the idea of this been labelled an mmo is bordering on farsical.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,929 ✭✭✭✭ShadowHearth


    Dcully wrote: »
    I assure you very few longterm mmo players were expected anything massively different than whats already available, we were expecting the game to be semi decent.
    Its not even anywhere remotely near a solid mmo, the list of flaws is literally endless.
    It is an absolute disaster as far as im concerned,they got practically everything wrong, its actually shocking just how wrong they got it.
    The issues are so deep rooted i seriously doubt patching can fix it.
    After 3 weeks solid playtime i predicted this game would be the single biggest failed mmo in many a year with a massive drop off in players, ive yet to see anything to suggest i could be wrong.
    Id go so far as to say the idea of this been labelled an mmo is bordering on farsical.

    Waaaaaay over QQed with this.

    It had its flows, but it did good few things that really made it better then any major mmorpg out there.

    I wount list them too, you know... It's just good game...

    It's old type mmorpg, but it's not the worst version of it. It really does not deserve the treading of poo on your shoe.

    I would recomend it to anyone who is new to mmorpg, but I would not recomend to anyone who played mmorpgs in the past amd of they are looking for something new.


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 14,715 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dcully


    Waaaaaay over QQed with this.

    It had its flows, but it did good few things that really made it better then any major mmorpg out there.

    I wount list them too, you know... It's just good game...

    It's old type mmorpg, but it's not the worst version of it. It really does not deserve the treading of poo on your shoe.

    I would recomend it to anyone who is new to mmorpg, but I would not recomend to anyone who played mmorpgs in the past amd of they are looking for something new.

    While i respect everyones opinions i just cannot disagree more.
    Opinion is one thing but "better than any major mmo out there" - Are you for real? :eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,929 ✭✭✭✭ShadowHearth


    Dcully wrote: »
    While i respect everyones opinions i just cannot disagree more.
    Opinion is one thing but "better than any major mmo out there" - Are you for real? :eek:

    if my friend would ask: " listen, i want to start some mmorpg, which one could you recomend? "

    my answer would be: SWTOR ( and i played wow for 5 years and **** loads of other mmorpgs )


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 829 ✭✭✭Eoin247


    Still subbed and playing it, but not very often tbh. Having fun but not "Great" fun


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,984 ✭✭✭Venom


    if my friend would ask: " listen, i want to start some mmorpg, which one could you recomend? "

    my answer would be: SWTOR ( and i played wow for 5 years and **** loads of other mmorpgs )

    You would recommend a bug ridden game missing major features for a modern MMO, that requires a pretty powerful PC to run on very dated looking graphic settings over WoW?

    The same WoW that has at least 20 times the amount of content, is polished as hell, runs perfectly on very old PC's and is what every other game is measured against?

    Not to mention your "friend" would be paying the same price for both!

    Did your "friend" kill your dog, sleep with your wife or burn your house down? I would hate to see what you would recommend to people you dislike lol.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,642 ✭✭✭✭Mr. CooL ICE


    Dcully, I have seen your posts about SWTOR over the past few weeks and they seem like a complete and utter overreaction.

    I'm not gonna try dig up the specific post, but right around the time I had gotten my character to lvl 30, you complained the game was boring because you had (IIRC) gotten to 50 and has a few 20s by that time. While I don't aim to blitz characters to level cap asap, I certainly don't slack when it comes to leveling and had been putting in a fair few hours between my evenings and days off into the game. To hear that you had gotten to 50 with one character and 20+ with "a few others" while I was only 30ish was rather shocking to me and indicative that you perhaps put way too much into a game in its opening weeks.

    I'm not trying to attack you here, but I think you need to put how you approached the game into perspective here.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,984 ✭✭✭Venom


    Dcully, I have seen your posts about SWTOR over the past few weeks and they seem like a complete and utter overreaction.

    I'm not gonna try dig up the specific post, but right around the time I had gotten my character to lvl 30, you complained the game was boring because you had (IIRC) gotten to 50 and has a few 20s by that time. While I don't aim to blitz characters to level cap asap, I certainly don't slack when it comes to leveling and had been putting in a fair few hours between my evenings and days off into the game. To hear that you had gotten to 50 with one character and 20+ with "a few others" while I was only 30ish was rather shocking to me and indicative that you perhaps put way too much into a game in its opening weeks.

    I'm not trying to attack you here, but I think you need to put how you approached the game into perspective here.

    Its better to play smart than hard :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1 Virginiaq


    I got SWTOR for my son ,checked that the game would work on my laptop first before I bought it and all looked good.But when I went to install the game it said I needed to download "Game Client" which I started doing.But Game Client is 27 GB and I ony have a limit of 15 Gb a month so I ended up going way over my limit and it is still not finished and its costed me alot of money. Anyone able to help me sort this problem out


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 18,332 CMod ✭✭✭✭Nody


    Virginiaq wrote: »
    I got SWTOR for my son ,checked that the game would work on my laptop first before I bought it and all looked good.But when I went to install the game it said I needed to download "Game Client" which I started doing.But Game Client is 27 GB and I ony have a limit of 15 Gb a month so I ended up going way over my limit and it is still not finished and its costed me alot of money. Anyone able to help me sort this problem out
    You knew your limit, you knew you were going over it, exactly what do you need help sorting out?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 726 ✭✭✭Lister1


    Have purchased it but not played it yet due to studying for exams. I am actually glad as it will give them time to fix any minor issues which seem to occur with the release with all mmos.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 400 ✭✭Dubhthamlacht


    I'm still playing and still really enjoying it, despite it's flaws. I avoided the long queues at the start by not preordering or getting the game first day of release. Instead I waited until end of December. So when I did start, there were not queues at all, and I avoided a lot of fustration. For sure, the game needs refining and without doubt, it was rushed to release too early. But, it is still a fine game. I've only got my character to 35 so far, but so far the game has met my expectations. I wanted a story driven leveling experience where I can group with other players and that is what I got. I'm not at end game yet but from reading forums and game guides it seems to be the type of end game I am looking for.

    Seems like a lot of folks are burned out from MMO's and spolied by how good WoW was, and how it currently is and that may have diminished their enjoyment of this game. I've no doubt SWTOR will be an extremely polished game in a few months time and I'm looking forward to it.


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 14,715 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dcully


    Dcully, I have seen your posts about SWTOR over the past few weeks and they seem like a complete and utter overreaction.

    I'm not gonna try dig up the specific post, but right around the time I had gotten my character to lvl 30, you complained the game was boring because you had (IIRC) gotten to 50 and has a few 20s by that time. While I don't aim to blitz characters to level cap asap, I certainly don't slack when it comes to leveling and had been putting in a fair few hours between my evenings and days off into the game. To hear that you had gotten to 50 with one character and 20+ with "a few others" while I was only 30ish was rather shocking to me and indicative that you perhaps put way too much into a game in its opening weeks.

    I'm not trying to attack you here, but I think you need to put how you approached the game into perspective here.

    So my opinion is "a complete and utter overreaction" is it ? how so?
    I expressed my opinion, you dont have to agree with it.

    When i but i new mmo yes i spend as much time as i can to see if i want to keep subbed after the initial 30 days free as do most mmo players.
    I level fast in mmos,its not exactly difficult especially if you skip the cutscenes which i did after about lvl 30 or so it was a snoozefest to sit through them.
    Im more interested in combat,class mechanics and how the game plays as opposed to a story.
    Anyways i got a BH healer to lvl 50 an IA healer to 30 and a SS to lvl 22.
    I fail to see how you find that shocking expecially considering the game was released just intime for the holiday season.
    There was people on boards got to lvl 50 long before i did and complaining about nothing to do.
    I find it rich of you to have a go at someone over their opinion of a game, "a complete and utter overreaction" as you put it could well describe your post mate unless ofcourse your a blinkered fanboy :P
    I think you need to put how you approached the game into perspective here.

    This i agree with, if i had little experience with an mmo id possibly love the game,im merely forming my opinion on the way i see it from my perspective which is what this thread is about isnt it :)


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 18,332 CMod ✭✭✭✭Nody


    Seems like a lot of folks are burned out from MMO's and spolied by how good WoW was, and how it currently is and that may have diminished their enjoyment of this game. I've no doubt SWTOR will be an extremely polished game in a few months time and I'm looking forward to it.
    I don't understand this argument honestly. "Well it's not as good as WoW, yea, it's missing key features, yea there're gaming breaking bugs but don't compare it to what's on the market and look at it in a vacuum and you'll see it's a good game!"

    Honestly, no, you compare it to what's available now including all the content available in other MMOs. Everquest had a similar lead on WoW when WoW came out (EQ was on it's 7th expansion or something like that). WoW was simply better with LESS content hands down no questions asked; so why can't SWTOR do the same to WoW?

    Also keep in mind no MMO has ever managed to grow after release (with exception of Eve); a poor launch means poor long term subscription numbers because you only get one chance to pull people in (in general) before the later new games come along (see AOC, WHO, the new FF game I can't remember the number on, EQ2 etc.).


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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,297 ✭✭✭Jaxxy


    I'm still playing and I'm still very much enjoying. I'm pretty sure I haven't sunk as much time into it as some people here, nor been playing it as long which is probably why I don't feel as cheated or hard done by.

    I think it's a great game with great stories and I think it's suited to a player like myself; someone who doesn't have the time to dedicate to lvling multiple chars to 50, basically someone who can spend a couple of hours of an eve a couple of times a week. I'm still subbed and will remain so for the next few months at least.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,929 ✭✭✭✭ShadowHearth


    Jesus lads, If you don't like it, then why are you still here and moaning about it? I am not going in to wow forum and moan how **** it became. I just moved on, thats it.
    If you still got an urge to moan about then you can fill in very detailed survey that bioware gives you. Who knows, they will fix all of the stuff you don't like and maybe install a toaster in your ship.

    And yes, I would recomend swtor over wow Any day.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 412 ✭✭Akarinn


    @Virginiaq

    If they wont give u an answer il try,
    Now seeing as u had to download the while client im guessing where ever u bought SWTOR, they sold u the pre order edition.. Which basicly got u into the game earlier then everyone else, only cost like a tenner... But if u dont have the real copy then , yes u are gonna have to download the full client as the pre order copy doesnt come with the full client install, it only contains a key code.

    If this is the case, wel then your going to have to shed out €40...? To buy the game itself..!
    P.s - possibly loads of updates for the game now, so im guessing ur gonna have to go over your limit even more ^^


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 14,715 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dcully


    Jesus lads, If you don't like it, then why are you still here and moaning about it? I am not going in to wow forum and moan how **** it became. I just moved on, thats it.
    If you still got an urge to moan about then you can fill in very detailed survey that bioware gives you. Who knows, they will fix all of the stuff you don't like and maybe install a toaster in your ship.

    And yes, I would recomend swtor over wow Any day.

    Its an internet forum,its a thread that happens to be discussing a game many on here feel we wasted money on.
    Furthermore pretty much everyone on here would like to see the game develop into something special.
    In a nutshell we care, why cant we discuss the game?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 400 ✭✭Dubhthamlacht


    Nody wrote: »
    I don't understand this argument honestly. "Well it's not as good as WoW, yea, it's missing key features, yea there're gaming breaking bugs but don't compare it to what's on the market and look at it in a vacuum and you'll see it's a good game!"

    Honestly, no, you compare it to what's available now including all the content available in other MMOs. Everquest had a similar lead on WoW when WoW came out (EQ was on it's 7th expansion or something like that). WoW was simply better with LESS content hands down no questions asked; so why can't SWTOR do the same to WoW?

    Also keep in mind no MMO has ever managed to grow after release (with exception of Eve); a poor launch means poor long term subscription numbers because you only get one chance to pull people in (in general) before the later new games come along (see AOC, WHO, the new FF game I can't remember the number on, EQ2 etc.).

    I played WoW for 4 years from release and even though I quit it over 3 years ago, it remains one of the best games I've ever played. Despite that I don't look through rose tinted glasses at what it was like at release. At release it was in a similar state to what SWTOR currently is. I've played a fair few MMO's (including some of those you listed) and none of them at release ever matched the polish of WoW after several years. Indeed, I rate SWTOR better than those other titles too. WoW as market leader has created a set of expectations e.g. WoW vanilla had an average of 21 days I think to get to level 60....how would players bases react to that today? Some of those expectations are necessary, e.g. an effective LFG system and auction house. Very few MMO's at release will ever better a market leader around for years. Having played 7 or 8 MMO's my expectations were to expect flaws and to expect that some parts of the game were rushed. I also expected iSWTOR to get an awful more right than wrong and for me and for now it has acheived that. I still find the game fun which is the main thing :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,929 ✭✭✭✭ShadowHearth


    Dcully wrote: »
    Its an internet forum,its a thread that happens to be discussing a game many on here feel we wasted money on.
    Furthermore pretty much everyone on here would like to see the game develop into something special.
    In a nutshell we care, why cant we discuss the game?

    You can discuss, but so far I only heard moaning without actual problems. If you do want developers do something about, then atleast point out your problems out.

    So far I showed my opinion and the moaning part of this thread just points out that I wrong.
    In the end of the day, if you don't like the product, don't use it. If you moan about, thn make it constructive atleast, and accept that someone actually enjoyed game and like it.
    I said that I cancelled sub, and I saidy honest opinion about, which is positive, even after I decided not to play it. If some people just steam roll the ge with foam in they mouth and then complain about content, then I don't really think its developers problem. From reading few posts here and seeing that some people had maxed level amd few alta with med level is such small time. Seriuosly... Now that's we're I would inser " get a life " remark.

    I have nothing to say anymore. Of someone did not liked the game, then fair play. It's a matter of taste, you can't make a product that will appeal To everyone. I personally liked it, but I wont have enough time to dedicate myself to such mmorpg.


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  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 14,715 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dcully


    You can discuss, but so far I only heard moaning without actual problems. If you do want developers do something about, then atleast point out your problems out.

    So far I showed my opinion and the moaning part of this thread just points out that I wrong.
    In the end of the day, if you don't like the product, don't use it. If you moan about, thn make it constructive atleast, and accept that someone actually enjoyed game and like it.
    I said that I cancelled sub, and I saidy honest opinion about, which is positive, even after I decided not to play it. If some people just steam roll the ge with foam in they mouth and then complain about content, then I don't really think its developers problem. From reading few posts here and seeing that some people had maxed level amd few alta with med level is such small time. Seriuosly... Now that's we're I would inser " get a life " remark.

    I have nothing to say anymore. Of someone did not liked the game, then fair play. It's a matter of taste, you can't make a product that will appeal To everyone. I personally liked it, but I wont have enough time to dedicate myself to such mmorpg.

    I agree in parts but people can express what they feel about a game positive or negative, you see the negatives as moaning and whining,others dont.

    From reading few posts here and seeing that some people had maxed level amd few alta with med level is such small time. Seriuosly... Now that's we're I would inser " get a life " remark.

    It doesnt take long to level up at all, i dont know where your bizzare like lesson is coming from.
    Not everyone takes long to level up characters, you cant simply generalize like that.
    Its like saying this guy cant run a marathon as fast as that guy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,548 ✭✭✭Draupnir


    I really enjoy it, I've only got one character and he is level 33 right now (Commando). Just fluting around Alderaan at the minute, did a pretty cool quest last night that involved some excellent little side quests.

    I never really enjoyed WoW as much as this, for whatever reason, I am really into Star Wars so that certainly helps.

    If I was offered both games (in fact I own both games), I'd rather play SWTOR every time. I have little or no reasoning for this, maybe because there is less in it right now so I don't feel massively behind the curve.


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 14,715 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dcully


    Draupnir wrote: »
    I really enjoy it, I've only got one character and he is level 33 right now (Commando). Just fluting around Alderaan at the minute, did a pretty cool quest last night that involved some excellent little side quests.

    I never really enjoyed WoW as much as this, for whatever reason, I am really into Star Wars so that certainly helps.

    If I was offered both games (in fact I own both games), I'd rather play SWTOR every time. I have little or no reasoning for this, maybe because there is less in it right now so I don't feel massively behind the curve.

    This says it all, the chap enjoys the game.
    Fair play to him, likewise others dont.
    Doesnt mean either party is wrong.


  • Registered Users Posts: 32 teishen


    Still playing and enjoying it, will probably be slowing way, way down though after my massive gaming splurge. My computer isn't up to scratch at the moment though for flawless play, so I've been amusing myself levelling a slew of alts. Finding the repetition isn't so bad and I'm enjoying the different class quests.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,548 ✭✭✭Draupnir


    I've got a fear of starting an alt with a lightsaber, my Commando may never see me again and I've gotten very attached to him. To the point where I think an RP server would have been a better choice.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,880 ✭✭✭Raphael


    Draupnir wrote: »
    I've got a fear of starting an alt with a lightsaber, my Commando may never see me again and I've gotten very attached to him. To the point where I think an RP server would have been a better choice.
    One of us, one of us...


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,297 ✭✭✭Jaxxy


    Draupnir wrote: »
    I've got a fear of starting an alt with a lightsaber, my Commando may never see me again and I've gotten very attached to him. To the point where I think an RP server would have been a better choice.

    You could be surprised! For some reason I'm drawn towards the non-Force chars. Don't get me wrong, my SI is fun but she has been largely ignored for my agent and smuggler. :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,548 ✭✭✭Draupnir


    Raphael wrote: »
    One of us, one of us...

    To be honest, I might just be! Have never played a role playing game in the past but I do find myself bizarrely attached to this character and I've got all kinds of backstories for him.

    Picking even the most menial response in a conversation requires deep consideration!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,548 ✭✭✭Draupnir


    Jaxxy wrote: »
    You could be surprised! For some reason I'm drawn towards the non-Force chars. Don't get me wrong, my SI is fun but she has been largely ignored for my agent and smuggler. :D

    I got attacked by an Empire player last night, really enjoyed killing him with my trooper against his Inquisitor. Would have liked to be able to nick his lightsaber or something after.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,046 ✭✭✭Dustaz


    You can discuss, but so far I only heard moaning without actual problems. If you do want developers do something about, then atleast point out your problems out.

    Everyone knows what the problems are, they have been repeated here ad nauseum, but i can paste my cancel account comments if you wish?
    In the end of the day, if you don't like the product, don't use it.

    Well thats pretty much the point of this, and the other thread isnt it?
    From reading few posts here and seeing that some people had maxed level amd few alta with med level is such small time. Seriuosly... Now that's we're I would inser " get a life " remark.
    I had a max level account by early-mid january and i would have had a maxed alt except for the last 3 weeks i havent been bothered playing that much. I have a pretty full on career and an active social life. I have a life, thanks very much, and I'm also qualified to say that having actually levelled to cap and raided and pvp'd. Something that cannot be said for the majority that are still enjoying the game.
    I personally liked it, but I wont have enough time to dedicate myself to such mmorpg.

    You said earlier in the thread that you would recommend this game over wow to your friend.

    You should ask yourself why you spent 5 years playing wow, when you have cancelled your sub to this after 2 months.

    I


  • Registered Users Posts: 23 Holyhole


    It does seem a funny one tbh.

    One thing that seems certain to me is that this is not a game for the Dcully type, the level fast, maximse gaming time, 'hardcore' attitude sorrta thing. Everyone I know who has attacked it with that attitude has been dissapointed, and i can understand why..

    tbh there are many issues, but for those of us that are more relaxed about it, want to log in for mayb a couple hours a night, maybe 1 or 2 raids a week with m8s, in no hurry to get to top level, watching ALL the cutscenes and getting into the full experience, its pretty cool. i mean there are performace issues and all that sure, I believe that will get fixed. and the end game content is a bit dull.. but if you want to envelop yourself in Star Wars you will enjoy it.

    I gotta say tho, right now, it is seeming to me more a replacement for Galaxies than a replacement for WoW.

    Ill still be playing for a long while yet tho.. really enjoying levelling assassin right now, and still havent got Soa down on Hard mode.. looking forward to new patches, and for populations on the servers to loose all the naysayers and just be left with committed people..


  • Registered Users Posts: 26 November One


    Holyhole wrote: »
    It does seem a funny one tbh.

    One thing that seems certain to me is that this is not a game for the Dcully type, the level fast, maximse gaming time, 'hardcore' attitude sorrta thing. Everyone I know who has attacked it with that attitude has been dissapointed, and i can understand why..

    tbh there are many issues, but for those of us that are more relaxed about it, want to log in for mayb a couple hours a night, maybe 1 or 2 raids a week with m8s, in no hurry to get to top level, watching ALL the cutscenes and getting into the full experience, its pretty cool. i mean there are performace issues and all that sure, I believe that will get fixed. and the end game content is a bit dull.. but if you want to envelop yourself in Star Wars you will enjoy it.

    I gotta say tho, right now, it is seeming to me more a replacement for Galaxies than a replacement for WoW.

    Ill still be playing for a long while yet tho.. really enjoying levelling assassin right now, and still havent got Soa down on Hard mode.. looking forward to new patches, and for populations on the servers to loose all the naysayers and just be left with committed people..


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  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 14,715 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dcully


    Holyhole wrote: »
    It does seem a funny one tbh.

    One thing that seems certain to me is that this is not a game for the Dcully type, the level fast, maximse gaming time, 'hardcore' attitude sorrta thing. Everyone I know who has attacked it with that attitude has been dissapointed, and i can understand why..

    tbh there are many issues, but for those of us that are more relaxed about it, want to log in for mayb a couple hours a night, maybe 1 or 2 raids a week with m8s, in no hurry to get to top level, watching ALL the cutscenes and getting into the full experience, its pretty cool. i mean there are performace issues and all that sure, I believe that will get fixed. and the end game content is a bit dull.. but if you want to envelop yourself in Star Wars you will enjoy it.

    I gotta say tho, right now, it is seeming to me more a replacement for Galaxies than a replacement for WoW.

    Ill still be playing for a long while yet tho.. really enjoying levelling assassin right now, and still havent got Soa down on Hard mode.. looking forward to new patches, and for populations on the servers to loose all the naysayers and just be left with committed people..

    I get what your saying here and fully agree but im far from hardcore mate When i subscribe to a game i want it to offer me loads to do when i want to play,when a a new mmo comes out as ive said i will play hard, time permitting for the free 30 days to see if i want to keep subbed.


  • Registered Users Posts: 28 Koded_AR_Rose


    in terms of graphics what game would be a good comparison i am a noob in pc gaming but have a decent enough laptop that runs fallout 3 fairly well and was wondering would it hold up for this game? ... sorry if this question is off topic :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,046 ✭✭✭Dustaz


    Holyhole wrote: »
    One thing that seems certain to me is that this is not a game for the Dcully type, the level fast, maximse gaming time, 'hardcore' attitude sorrta thing. Everyone I know who has attacked it with that attitude has been dissapointed, and i can understand why..

    One thing that noone seems to accept is that this 'type' of player exists in every game. The difference is that a game like wow can hold peoples attention for 5 years but swtor struggles to hold them for 5 weeks.

    You play the game at your own pace, thats fine but literally the only thing swtor has going for it is the questing system. Once that finishes (or wears thin) there really isnt a whole lot else to it. Companions, most professions, the world at large are useless at max level. The raids are good, but really only 'good'. If my guild had not have quit en masse (myself included) we would have everything clear on nightmare (all bar soa down in ev) by now and be left with nothing at all to do. For some reason in wow, that didnt happen untill at least a year into the cycle of each expansion.


    Ill still be playing for a long while yet tho.. really enjoying levelling assassin right now, and still havent got Soa down on Hard mode.. looking forward to new patches, and for populations on the servers to loose all the naysayers and just be left with committed people..
    Without sounding overly negative, Id guess that theres a faily hefty amount of that population is made up of naysayers. Basilisk Droid was a massively full server at launch and now on alliance side its a ghost town. I hope for the sake of people who do enjoy the game that therell be server merges soon.


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