Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 11/12 MOD POST #1130

mike65 wrote: »

Gerrard off at HT.

For his own good, lucky not to be sent off.

El Spearo wrote: »

that was actually a very good tackle.

the fact people consider a hard commited tackle a bad tackle is a disgrace and is turning the game into a pillow fight.

just because a player went off injured does not mean it was a wreckless challenge. it was a strong challenge and Gerrard won the ball. To be fair, it wasnt even a free kick.

Maybe when you or I played football it was a great tackle.... but alas, in all fairness - ya cant be doing that anymore !!

El Spearo wrote: »

well my understanding and interpretation of this is, just to get someone the lads will like...then get really good players and hope to god they gel and play well together

ie the manager doesnt actually matter anymore...

im always thinking back to the actual money ball movie...where brad pitt is actually the important one (and the nerdy guy)...

so samuel l jackson should actually be our next manager.

I'm seeing this sort of thing a lot, here, on other forums and in real life.

It's not as simple as this, and the idea that the Manager doesn't matter anymore is really not true at all.

People are holding Pep Guardiola up as the best manager since sliced bread, but Barca have had a DoF\Sporting Director for as long as I can remember, same with Jose at Madrid, where Zidane is Sporting Director. AvB got sacked by Chelsea, but again, they've had a DoF pretty much since Abra took over. Klopp at Dortmund....pretty much the same story, Ancelotti at PSG, he has Leonardo as his DoF. I could go on all night here tbh. The fact is that this isn't some sort of American thing, being foisted upon the club by our owners, it's been around for a long time, and although more or less copied from American sports, its not some sort of mad, alien concept. More than a few English clubs have this role as well.

The example of Fergie and Wenger is given as an argument against having a DoF/Sporting Director/Insert Job Title Here at a club. Really you could be arguing here that because of the time they have spent at their respective clubs, their roles have evolved into a sort of DoF anyway. Many Utd fans are complaining that the lack of a strong assistant manager ( Phelan doesn't seem to be a favourite) for Ferguson is a reason that they have "struggled" lately, and they look back wistfully at Kidd and Quieroz. Wenger has had Pat Rice as his assistant for donkeys, just retired with 40 odd years on his CV there. This allows both men to perform many of the roles of a traditional DoF.

Like it or not, a club like Liverpool (or any other top tier club) is a multi million euro business, as well as being something that we as fans hold dear. If I ran a business of that size away from sports, would I trust one of the biggest aspects of that to just one person? No chance tbh. The load would be spread among a team, with various responsibilities given to each person.

Sir Gallagher wrote: »

Fck that, i wish them all well.

Purely selfish reasons on my behalf.

Liverpool>>>>internationals

rarnes1 wrote: »

Purely selfish reasons on my behalf.

Liverpool>>>>internationals

I dont get this....surely you want Carroll and Downing to tear it up at the euros? It would be different if they were already at the top of their game but they had very poor seasons. The better the tournament they have, the better for us.

Slattsy wrote: »

For his own good, lucky not to be sent off.

Arrah would you get away out of that. That was a superb challenge, he was first to the ball, caught the ball with the inside of his foot, was in control and did not have a straight leg out (which is one of the criteria refs have been told to look out for for some reason). He second foot was behind him and while it was strong, it was well timed.

I hat that any contact is now considered a foul and that the stronger the contact the more sanction people look for. In any time that was a good challenge and he won the ball. The ref was going to blow the whistle the second he saw Gerrard dive in, you could see that his whistle was on the way to his lips and he was moving to the scene even before contact with the ball was made, he had made up his mind that it was a foul. Bad reffing IMO.

G.K. wrote: »

Henriksen is playing for Norway tonight, he's a lad Kess rates.

Yep him and Singh are two from Norway I really rate.

Henriksen I have been wittering about for a year or so now. The lad is only 19 atm and has, imho anyway, tons of potential.

G.K. wrote: »

He didn't have his best game tonight, but showed his talent in flashes. And boy, when he did, he was a class above anyone else. Incredibly intelligent player.
I think he'd have done better if played slightly more centrally.

He plays in a more central role at club level, and is very effective in getting forward to link attacks from the centre. He was played in a more forward role tonight and he did not quite have a handle on it in terms of positioning. But the talent is there for anyone to see, and at 19 he has loads of time to reach that potential.

A lot of people think that the swede Christian Eriksen is the young talent to watch (and they are not wrong to be honest as he is a super player), but I think that Henriksen will turn out to be the bigger talent in time as for me he has more to his game already in terms of physical attributes, mental attributes, and technical ability.

Reckon Henriksen would cost a hell of a lot less atm than Eriksen though as the latter has a much higher profile.

Keep an eye out for Harmeet Singh in the future as well. He is a couple of years older than Henriksen, but is a very clever midfielder who is growing into the role of being a very good link player in CM.

mike65 wrote: »

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/liverpool/9292139/Liverpool-oweners-Fenway-Sports-Group-sounding-out-experienced-Dutchman-Louis-van-Gaal-for-senior-role.html

Van Gaal as manager and Martinez as Dof...

El Spearo wrote: »

do they not even proof read anymore?

No, that's my recommendation !

Mirror has tweeted RM will do conference on Tues to announce whether he is new boss or not.

daithijjj wrote: »

Some fairly solid tweets (BBC NI) going around that Rogers has got on a flight to the states today.

Brendan no interviews Rogers, bit of a turn around.

Pretty close between him and Roberto in the betting.
No idea, I'll plump for Roberto between the two because he seems slick. :cool:

Martinez as DoF? Wonder is that nonsense, they must have a lot of time for him.
Can't imagine Van Gaal working under a young pup of a DoF.

Just had a look at Brendan's rap sheet. :-/

We are proper mental for not knocking down Rafa's door, **** sake.