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Buying a used car in Ireland guide

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  • Registered Users Posts: 336 ✭✭Bombbastic22


    PatsyR wrote: »
    Is it ok or a bit dodgy to transfer money into the seller's bank account and collect the car later on the same day?

    Very, very dodgy. I knew a guy once who sold the same motorbike to three different people - except that none of them actually got it.

    Also, not sure if anyone has mentioned this but it's a good idea to ring the hp register to check if there is any finance owing on a vehicle cos you could be in hot water if there is

    H.P register:
    012600905


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,088 ✭✭✭sean1141


    Is that the reason? It seems kind of dumb since you could do that with any car at anytime whose reg is visible. I mean, why bother going to look up cars online when you can see em right outside your door.

    but say i am looking to clone the reg of a blue mondeo. i could be walking/driving around for hours looking to see one that i could get the reg off. where as it would be so much easier to log on to an online car sales site, input the make and model and sometimes colour and presto i have a list to chose from..


  • Registered Users Posts: 336 ✭✭Bombbastic22


    sean1141 wrote: »
    but say i am looking to clone the reg of a blue mondeo. i could be walking/driving around for hours looking to see one that i could get the reg off. where as it would be so much easier to log on to an online car sales site, input the make and model and sometimes colour and presto i have a list to chose from..

    Makes sense I guess.


  • Registered Users Posts: 336 ✭✭Bombbastic22


    Was looking at a few 09 Mitsubishi Lancers of late and noticed that a lot of them have had two owners already.

    Does anyone else think it's dodgy for a car to have already had two owners in two years?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,694 ✭✭✭✭L-M


    Was looking at a few 09 Mitsubishi Lancers of late and noticed that a lot of them have had two owners already.

    Does anyone else think it's dodgy for a car to have already had two owners in two years?

    Could be a co-incidence or the ones you looked at were origionally demos.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 401 ✭✭Bob Cratchet


    sean1141 wrote: »
    but say i am looking to clone the reg of a blue mondeo. i could be walking/driving around for hours looking to see one that i could get the reg off. where as it would be so much easier to log on to an online car sales site, input the make and model and sometimes colour and presto i have a list to chose from..

    Interestingly I notice most dealers that advertise cars don't blur out the reg, so I'm a little suspicious of sellers that do.


  • Registered Users Posts: 336 ✭✭Bombbastic22


    Interestingly I notice most dealers that advertise cars don't blur out the reg, so I'm a little suspicious of sellers that do.

    Aye, me too.

    I'm a little concerned about cars imported from U.K and one's that are filthy when you go to see em as well...........I just think if you can't be bothered to clean it, you probably didn't look after it......


  • Registered Users Posts: 336 ✭✭Bombbastic22


    Aye, me too.

    I'm a little concerned about cars imported from U.K and one's that are filthy when you go to see em as well...........I just think if you can't be bothered to clean it, you probably didn't look after it......

    Spoiler: Now you see it, now you don't.

    http://www.carzone.ie/search/Mitsubishi/Lancer/NEW-1.5-/201105201103453/advert?channel=CARS

    Two different cars. Dodge or what?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,088 ✭✭✭sean1141


    Interestingly I notice most dealers that advertise cars don't blur out the reg, so I'm a little suspicious of sellers that do.
    but dealers dont own the cars and most will have cctv cameras to prove the car was in the yard and not speeding/going through the toll where as a prive seller might not have an alibi as such


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 755 ✭✭✭whowantstwoknow


    Hi all,

    Looking at a car that is being sold by a family member as the owner is working abroad. So far all my checks seem legit, but how best can I protect myself to prove the relative has permission to sell the car on the owners behalf? I've seen the VLC and its been "signed" by the owner, but what proof is that? I can contact the owner by phone but again what proof is that also?

    As I said so far all my checks seem legit...

    Thanks In advance

    W.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,694 ✭✭✭✭L-M


    If it's signed by the previous owner I wouldn't too worried as long as the logbook matches the car. Make sure they post it too.

    If you really want to be sure, ask them for proof of id, then ask them to sign a bit of paper saying

    "I ________ have sold the car with registration number _______ to __________ on behalf of ___________, as I have been given the permission to do so."

    Sounds like a trader to me using the family member as an excuse, I wouldn't be too worried.


  • Registered Users Posts: 336 ✭✭Bombbastic22


    Eventually read all of your initial post (Limerick) and what you said about checking with Cartell.

    Just wanted to say that I did a check with Cartell on a car I bought, it came up clean but the car turned out to be crashed and rather dodgy.

    I'm not sure Cartell can tell you much more than you can find out anyway. Far as I can see it only tells you if there is finance on the vehicle (which you can find out yourself anyway by ringing the hp register in Dublin), how many owners it had (which is on the log book) and if it was written off (which you'll find out pretty quickly also).

    I found it to be a bit of a waste of 35euro and it didn't help with the headache of a car I had. Got a refund eventually though.

    Do you think I should start a thread "How to get a refund on a dodgy used car?" ;-)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,694 ✭✭✭✭L-M


    I disagree.

    I was going to buy a Passat (admittedly I used Motorcheck) and it told me it had 6 owners, normally that wouldn't bother me but it gave me the dates and the bulk of the owners were in very quick concession of each other. The car turned out to be a pile of ****e.

    Same that I'd seen numerous clocked cars come up, crashed etc. (mostly UK imports).

    It's not a necessity to used one of those sites, it's just another option to give you peace of mind on your few thousand euro spend.


  • Registered Users Posts: 336 ✭✭Bombbastic22


    I disagree.

    I was going to buy a Passat (admittedly I used Motorcheck) and it told me it had 6 owners, normally that wouldn't bother me but it gave me the dates and the bulk of the owners were in very quick concession of each other. The car turned out to be a pile of ****e.

    Same that I'd seen numerous clocked cars come up, crashed etc. (mostly UK imports).

    It's not a necessity to used one of those sites, it's just another option to give you peace of mind on your few thousand euro spend.

    Well, it sounds like it was money well spent in your case then.

    It was a waste of money in mine though, though it was a different service.

    It's sure no harm to do it and maybe in many cases it is money well spent, but no more than the N.C.T - there are no guarantees.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,694 ✭✭✭✭L-M


    Oh there's a guarantee with the NCT alright, guaranteed to come out with 50 quid less than you went in with ;)


  • Registered Users Posts: 336 ✭✭Bombbastic22


    I disagree.

    I was going to buy a Passat (admittedly I used Motorcheck) and it told me it had 6 owners, normally that wouldn't bother me but it gave me the dates and the bulk of the owners were in very quick concession of each other. The car turned out to be a pile of ****e.

    Same that I'd seen numerous clocked cars come up, crashed etc. (mostly UK imports).

    It's not a necessity to used one of those sites, it's just another option to give you peace of mind on your few thousand euro spend.

    You really would buy a car with 6 previous owners? wowzers! Well, I guess if you have a good knowledge of motors it could be safe. I would be wary myself though.

    Hey, you know about that cream on the filler cap thing you mentioned?? Is that absolutely a minor thing and as a result of a car doing lots of short journeys? I test drove about 15 cars today and about 80% of them had this creamy stuff on the filler caps. One in particular was caked in the stuff and others just had a small wee bit.

    Also, can't all SIMI garages give you a Motorcheck report for free anyway?


  • Registered Users Posts: 336 ✭✭Bombbastic22


    Oh there's a guarantee with the NCT alright, guaranteed to come out with 50 quid less than you went in with ;)

    hahaha.

    Seems they are a lot harsher with it lately though, ever since the prime time exposure. Everyone I speak to seems to fail.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,694 ✭✭✭✭L-M


    You really would buy a car with 6 previous owners? wowzers! Well, I guess if you have a good knowledge of motors it could be safe. I would be wary myself though.

    My W124 had 12 owners and it currently has 16, that was since 01. It was perfect ish. On things like big end petrols cars, "spur of the moment cars" kinda thing, many owners wouldn't bother me. Someone might buy it thinking they can afford it, then flog it on again and the circle keeps going.
    Hey, you know about that cream on the filler cap thing you mentioned?? Is that absolutely a minor thing and as a result of a car doing lots of short journeys? I test drove about 15 cars today and about 80% of them had this creamy stuff on the filler caps. One in particular was caked in the stuff and others just had a small wee bit.

    If you buy a car and the gunk on the cap turns out to be something more serious I'll foot bill. It's condensation in the engine, ie. water which mixes with the oil and gives that creamy colour, very common on cars sitting in forecourts etc. Now it's when it's on the end of the dipstick, that's when you should proceed with caution/walk away because it's more than likely headgasket failure (ie oil mixing with the water on a more serious level)
    Also, can't all SIMI garages give you a Motorcheck report for free anyway?

    Most members of SIMI have access to beepbeep.ie, all the cars that are put on that have to be checked and greenlighted before they go live. Depends on the situation but most reputable garages have some form of access to cheaper, through bulk buying, or free reports.


  • Registered Users Posts: 336 ✭✭Bombbastic22


    Excellent! You've made up my mind on a wee Lancer I was looking at so!

    The slightly creamy cap thing was making me worry a bit though.

    You're sound out, Limerick Man!!!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,497 ✭✭✭✭Esel


    If you buy a car and the gunk on the cap turns out to be something more serious I'll foot bill.
    Meaning you will pay for the repairs, or you will kick some guy called Bill? :confused::D

    Not your ornery onager



  • Registered Users Posts: 336 ✭✭Bombbastic22


    Esel wrote: »
    Meaning you will pay for the repairs, or you will kick some guy called Bill? :confused::D

    No cheeky! :)

    He means he will give me my money back if things go wrong!!

    LM - pm'ing my paypal acount details shortly!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,694 ✭✭✭✭L-M


    Best of luck with the motor!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,622 ✭✭✭Gloomtastic!


    Great thread Limerick man. Was dreading going out and prentending I knew what to look for. Now it looks like I'm an expert! :rolleyes:

    I went into geek mode and converted all the info in this thread to a questionnaire-type format that you can copy/paste into a Text Document and use it for each car you look at.

    Happy hunting everyone! :)

    ____________________________________________

    Initial question when calling! I'm enquiring about the car you have for sale.


    Car:____________________________________

    Registration: _____________________________

    Mileage:_________________________________

    Price:___________________________________

    Phone Number: ___________________________

    1.Reason for sale:_________________________________________________

    2. How long have you had the car? _________________

    3. How many owners has it had?_________________

    4.Is there any outstanding finance on the vehicle? Yes/No

    5.When was the last full service carried out on the vehicle? _______________

    6.Has the car been imported and if so, have all relevant charges been paid (VAT, VRT etc)?

    7.Do you have documented service history? Yes/No

    8.Has the car ever been in an accident? Yes/No

    9.Is the mileage displayed correct? Yes/No

    10.Viewing Date/Time: ______________________

    11.Owner's Name: _______________________________

    12.Are you the registered owner of the car? Yes/No

    13.I will need to see some photo ID at the viewing.

    14.Address: _______________________________________________________

    Before Viewing – Car History Check

    www.motorcheck.ie or www.cartell.ie

    Viewing

    Visual

    1.All panels fit? Yes/No
    2.Any unusual gaps? Yes/No
    3.Is car symetrical? Yes/No
    4.Paintwork same throughout? Yes/No
    5.Tyres – Thread even? Known brand?
    6.Keys – how many sets?
    7.Boot Check - Is it damp inside and pockets either side? Yes/No
    8.Lift Carpet
    9.Spare Wheel - is it there? Thread ok?
    10.Locknut there? Yes/No
    11.Tools there? Yes/No
    12.Boot closes ok? Does it line up?
    13.Original Badges there? Yes/No
    14.Do they look like they've always been there?
    15.Bonnet Check –
    16.Front left/right bars creased? Yes/No
    17.Any rust inside? Yes/No
    18.Look at the bolts that hold the wings in. Do they look like they’ve been removed? Do both wings line up with the lights and the bumpers on both sides?
    19.Timing Belt – Has it been done? (if the car has one). This is normally marked in white tipex either on the engine cover or somewhere around the engine bay. If this hasn’t been done (Zafira every 40,000k) ask the owner about it. If they can’t prove when it was done take into account that this will have to be done, this is a very important part of the engine and can be very expensive to do (and can require a new or rebuilt engine if it snaps.).

    Oil Check:

    Wipe dip stick
    1.Level? Up near max? Yes/No
    2.Colour? Black/Golden/Creamy coffee colour – Golden good, all others bad!


    Windows Check:

    1. Do all numbers match on sides/front/back? Yes/No

    Numberplates Check:
    Is there one new and one old numberplate? Or two new ones? If there is one new numplate take note of the bumper, does it look freshly painted? One new numberplate could easily be because one fell off, but more often than not, the old one was damaged. All ok? Yes/No

    Interior Check:

    1.Driver's seat Bolster worn?
    2.Steering wheel worn?
    3.Handbrake worn?
    4.Pull seat belt out – release – Fast/slow?
    5.Carpet damp? Under pedals/Under dash?
    6.Buttons – push every button in/out
    7.Radio – Turn on/off – Volume up/down – CD Player working?
    8.Lights on/off – Dip/Full ok?
    9.Indicators
    10.Seats – push back/forward – up and down

    Turn Engine on:

    1.First Click – all lights lit? Yes/No All lights go out?
    2.Airbag Light – different sequence to Oil light?
    3.Engine starts first time? Yes/No
    4.Any unreasonable sounds? Yes/No

    Start car/Test Drive – at least fifteen minutes:

    1.Rev car up all gears and down all gears.
    2.High Rev – any blue smoke?
    3.Test brakes – soft stop. Hard stop – Any weird feeling? Do the wheels wobble badly?
    4.Air Conditioning working?

    __________________________________________________


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,737 ✭✭✭MidlandsM


    /\

    Don't get suckered into the tippex thing, some cnuts write false info on the cambelt cover. I always want to see a invoice or parts invoices to back up a belt change.

    Also, check the coolant, is it fresh and coloured? any oily shyte/gunk in the coolant (very important to check and when making an appointment respectfully as for the car to be cold when you arrive to allow you to start it up from cold, easy to check coolant then etc. Also, on test drive, geat the car up to temperature and see where the temp guage sits.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,622 ✭✭✭Gloomtastic!


    MidlandsM wrote: »
    /\

    Don't get suckered into the tippex thing, some cnuts write false info on the cambelt cover. I always want to see a invoice or parts invoices to back up a belt change.

    Also, check the coolant, is it fresh and coloured? any oily shyte/gunk in the coolant (very important to check and when making an appointment respectfully as for the car to be cold when you arrive to allow you to start it up from cold, easy to check coolant then etc. Also, on test drive, geat the car up to temperature and see where the temp guage sits.

    Can you please explain to me how you get the car up to temperature. Never had a temperature guage before! :confused:


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  • Registered Users Posts: 99 ✭✭gazmc18


    Just drive it, after ten min the gauge should be up to its normal place.
    1.Reason for sale?

    I would take this question out, at least as your no1 question anyway. It will not benefit you in any way by asking it.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,737 ✭✭✭MidlandsM


    gazmc18 wrote: »
    Just drive it, after ten min the gauge should be up to its normal place.



    I would take this question out, at least as your no1 question anyway. It will not benefit you in any way by asking it.

    yeah, a good test drive for over 20 mins will take it up to temp.
    Re; reason for sale question, no harm in asking, but i like to eyeball the vendor when asking this just to see if they hesitate and to study their body language, which is something you cant do over the phone.;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,694 ✭✭✭✭L-M


    MidlandsM wrote: »
    /\

    Don't get suckered into the tippex thing, some cnuts write false info on the cambelt cover. I always want to see a invoice or parts invoices to back up a belt change.

    I thought i mentioned somewhere about looking out for fresh tippex on a car that was supposed to have had it belt done 20k miles ago etc.
    MidlandsM wrote: »
    yeah, a good test drive for over 20 mins will take it up to temp.
    Re; reason for sale question, no harm in asking, but i like to eyeball the vendor when asking this just to see if they hesitate and to study their body language, which is something you cant do over the phone.;)

    +1

    The reason you ask them the reason for sale is because you ask them twice, once on the phone and once out of the blue in person, the stories might not add up ;)


  • Registered Users Posts: 99 ✭✭gazmc18


    yeah, a good test drive for over 20 mins will take it up to temp.
    Re; reason for sale question, no harm in asking, but i like to eyeball the vendor when asking this just to see if they hesitate and to study their body language, which is something you cant do over the phone
    The reason you ask them the reason for sale is because you ask them twice, once on the phone and once out of the blue in person, the stories might not add up wink.gif

    Its a great idea doing up a checklist for someone buying a car for the first time dont get me wrong here, and a great thread too btw.

    Just pointing out regarding the checklist that you could probaly ask the sellers name even before reason for selling car.

    You are only presuming that this is also the 1st time the seller is selling a car and has no experience at it either. For example I sell cars for a living, if say i wanted to sell dodgy cars (which i dont btw) i would give the same reason for selling a car to every person. (eg iam selling the car because my granny is in a nursing home and i need to sell the car to fund it). So when you do ask me why am I selling it wouldnt phase me because ive been belting out the same story for possibly 2 years to people and i would have it down to a tee. (hope i explained this ok?).
    I just dont want people here thinking that if the reason for selling seems ok that the car is probaly ok too.

    Also midlands to someone who sells motors fulltime i honestly cant see an eyeballing phasing them, they will probaly of come accross a lot worse than that in their time. These tricks might work on some dodgy young fella trying to pawn you off a junker but id imagine you would of figured that out as soon as you see him/his car.

    Again lads i hope i dont come accross as being harsh here as i dont mean to be. Everyone is coming up with good ideas here, iam just trying to be constructive too.:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,694 ✭✭✭✭L-M


    gazmc18 wrote: »
    Just pointing out regarding the checklist that you could probaly ask the sellers name even before reason for selling car.

    I'm fairly sure asking someone's name comes naturally and doesn't need to be wrote down ;)
    You are only presuming that this is also the 1st time the seller is selling a car and has no experience at it either.

    No, it's actually to try catch out people that are otherwise trying to sell off a dodgey motor.
    For example I sell cars for a living, if say i wanted to sell dodgy cars (which i dont btw) i would give the same reason for selling a car to every person. (eg iam selling the car because my granny is in a nursing home and i need to sell the car to fund it). So when you do ask me why am I selling it wouldnt phase me because ive been belting out the same story for possibly 2 years to people and i would have it down to a tee. (hope i explained this ok?).

    That's possibly the worst excuse I've ever heard and I'd hang up on someone if they gave me that!
    I just dont want people here thinking that if the reason for selling seems ok that the car is probaly ok too.

    The reason for selling obviously isn't the only contributing factor to make the it a legitimate sale, but people use such excuses as "Going to America, need quick sale" when in reality the car is a ball of ****e and the closest the seller will get to America is how far West he has to walk to his bed at night!


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  • Registered Users Posts: 99 ✭✭gazmc18


    I'm fairly sure asking someone's name comes naturally and doesn't need to be wrote down
    Agreed. But its number 11 on the checklist.
    No, it's actually to try catch out people that are otherwise trying to sell off a dodgey motor
    My point being that this question wont catch out an experienced car seller.
    That's possibly the worst excuse I've ever heard and I'd hang up on someone if they gave me that!
    Again you missed my point, i only used that as an example. My point was that a guy who sells cars for a living could be using the same excuse for selling his car to peaople on a daily basis for years, so this "reason for selling" question wouldnt make him bat an eyelid.

    Theres no harm in asking it, I just dont think its of benefit. Especially not as no1 question on the checklist


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,737 ✭✭✭MidlandsM


    gazmc18 wrote: »
    midlands to someone who sells motors fulltime i honestly cant see an eyeballing phasing them, they will probaly of come accross a lot worse than that in their time. These tricks might work on some dodgy young fella trying to pawn you off a junker but id imagine you would of figured that out as soon as you see him/his car.

    Again lads i hope i dont come accross as being harsh here as i dont mean to be. Everyone is coming up with good ideas here, iam just trying to be constructive too.:D

    ohhh, thanks for the insight ohhh experienced one......lol:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,694 ✭✭✭✭L-M


    gazmc18 wrote: »
    Agreed. But its number 11 on the checklist.

    Not my checklist but it's not a minus to have it there.

    My point being that this question wont catch out an experienced car seller.

    We don't get experienced sellers over here, we mostly get chancers.

    Again you missed my point, i only used that as an example. My point was that a guy who sells cars for a living could be using the same excuse for selling his car to peaople on a daily basis for years, so this "reason for selling" question wouldnt make him bat an eyelid.

    Theres no harm in asking it, I just dont think its of benefit. Especially not as no1 question on the checklist

    Most people who do sell cars for a living will tell you after chatting to them for a few mins that they buy and sell the odd car here and there, or say it in some way vague. I've never come across someone that blatantly lies and has a bs excuse, because it's very easy spot out and chat a liar.


  • Registered Users Posts: 99 ✭✭gazmc18


    Not my checklist but it's not a minus to have it there.

    It was the other checklist that was printed above that I was talking about. Nah its not a minus, leave it there I just dont see the point in it thats all. Its such a small detail theres no point going on about it anymore. My fault for bringing it up in the 1st place tbh.
    We don't get experienced sellers over here, we mostly get chancers.

    I thought this was for dealing with dealers too. (i know a lot of these are chancers too).
    Most people who do sell cars for a living will tell you after chatting to them for a few mins that they buy and sell the odd car here and there, or say it in some way vague. I've never come across someone that blatantly lies and has a bs excuse, because it's very easy spot out and chat a liar

    Again not really what i was getting at. But your right it can be easy to spot, then there are other guys that are good at it and could sell Ice to an Eskimo.
    BUt in fairness even the honest dealers out there are not going to shoot themselves in the foot. If someone asks why did the person trade-in the car? the dealer is not going to say because they hated it and it gave them trouble so they wanted rid of it. He will say something like they traded up to the newer model or something similar. Iam not saying i do it myself but again iam just using it as an example.
    Unless you can read minds you can never be 100% sure its the truth or not.

    You got to look at the car and its history on its own merits.Some sellers will tell you its the best car ever made and its in great nick etc. Sometimes Its not because they are trying to con you, its because they generally believe it themselves that its a fantastic car. They just dont have a clue what they are talking about.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,694 ✭✭✭✭L-M


    gazmc18 wrote: »
    You got to look at the car and its history on its own merits.Some sellers will tell you its the best car ever made and its in great nick etc. Sometimes Its not because they are trying to con you, its because they generally believe it themselves that its a fantastic car. They just dont have a clue what they are talking about.

    Impossible to look at a car and it's own merits when it's just been serviced, fully valeted and polished ;)


  • Registered Users Posts: 99 ✭✭gazmc18


    Impossible to look at a car and it's own merits when it's just been serviced, fully valeted and polished

    Hows that?

    If its clean you can see if its been painted a lot easier, or any marks/dents etc. You can also see how well the interior comes up.

    You can check to see if it has a service history.

    You can spot any leaks etc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,694 ✭✭✭✭L-M


    gazmc18 wrote: »
    Hows that?

    If its clean you can see if its been painted a lot easier, or any marks/dents etc. You can also see how well the interior comes up.

    You can check to see if it has a service history.

    You can spot any leaks etc.

    You're being niave, we've hundreds of scrap yards for reasons. It's easy get new seats, interiors, panels, etc. I'd have a very good eye for spotting a crashed cars and it's still hard.

    Best time to view a car is at night anyway.


  • Registered Users Posts: 99 ✭✭gazmc18


    :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,694 ✭✭✭✭L-M


    gazmc18 wrote: »
    :D

    I was being serious!


  • Registered Users Posts: 99 ✭✭gazmc18


    Forget the :D. You deserve one of these:eek:.

    You know this wumming could be taken as gospel by someone going to buy a motor;)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,694 ✭✭✭✭L-M


    I'm telling you, the best time to view a car is at night/dusk, you'll see alot more than you'll ever see. I'm saying this from experience not from seeing reading the internet.


  • Registered Users Posts: 99 ✭✭gazmc18


    Lol

    Iam not falling for it Limerickman!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,694 ✭✭✭✭L-M


    gazmc18 wrote: »
    Lol

    Iam not falling for it Limerickman!!

    May I be stuck dead by lightning tomorrow, it's the god honest truth. Marks etc. are so much more visable under dusk lighting, or under a flash lamp/steet lighting. Look at your own car as dusk tomorrow ;)


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,737 ✭✭✭MidlandsM


    May I be stuck dead by lightning tomorrow, it's the god honest truth. Marks etc. are so much more visable under dusk lighting, or under a flash lamp/steet lighting. Look at your own car as dusk tomorrow ;)

    Whilst this is your own experience and particular talent, I don't think its a practice to advocate. I ALWAYS advise anyone NEVER to look at a car in the DARK OR THE WET. It's deeply erronious to advise otherwise imho.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,694 ✭✭✭✭L-M


    Wet, never. Dark is completely different, I've seen many, many cars, and I know for a fact that I've seen alot more under a streetlight/with a flash lamp than I've seen in broad day light.

    I'm not saying people to only meet people at night, for the average car buyer stick to daylight, I'm just saying from my personal experience which is what this thread is!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,737 ✭✭✭MidlandsM


    Wet, never. Dark is completely different, I've seen many, many cars, and I know for a fact that I've seen alot more under a streetlight/with a flash lamp than I've seen in broad day light.

    I'm not saying people to only meet people at night, for the average car buyer stick to daylight, I'm just saying from my personal experience which is what this thread is!

    Mad, you're totally Mad LM...:pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,694 ✭✭✭✭L-M


    MidlandsM wrote: »
    Mad, you're totally Mad LM...:pac:

    Take out your car in dusk!


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 33,171 CMod ✭✭✭✭ShamoBuc


    Take out your car in dusk!

    I've a sneaking suspicion he didn't or else he did and cannot own up to agreeing with you:D


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,737 ✭✭✭MidlandsM


    ShamoBuc wrote: »
    I've a sneaking suspicion he didn't or else he did and cannot own up to agreeing with you:D

    errmm, no, I was too busy today selling jammerz to respond.;)
    Re; looking at cars at near nightfall, total bollox..........LOL:pac:


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 70 ✭✭Slushfund


    One thing I do know, paint defects, any resprayed areas etc. show up really easily under yellow streetlights etc., other than that, until I become as expert as Limerick Man, I think I still prefer looking at cars in the dry daylight.


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