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Ratings

  • 23-05-2005 11:07am
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 707 ✭✭✭


    Where can I find out details of the TV ratings (most watched programmes) for a certain week?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 162 ✭✭Lochaber


    Well... don't know where to get most channels but the RTÉ guide and Aertel (pg 369) both show top ten for their two channels and TG4 have top ten under the heading TAM (Television Audience Measurement) on their wepage.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,872 ✭✭✭segadreamcast


    TV Now do one I hear - though I can't verify that as I wouldn't touch it with a barge pole.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,459 ✭✭✭Blisterman


    Neilson do the ratings for TV shows. Try contacting them. Or RTE's advertising department.


  • Registered Users Posts: 162 ✭✭Lochaber


    On the other hand if you are looking for US ratings you can find them here.

    http://www.nielsenmedia.com/ (click top right Nielsen Top 10 TV ratings)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,761 ✭✭✭✭Winters


    RTÉ list the ratings for both RTÉ One and RTÉ Two on their Aertel pages here: http://www.rte.ie/aertel/p369.htm


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 707 ✭✭✭seabee


    Thanks for all your help. I checked the aertel page but as the song goes "I still haven't found what I'm lookin for". I'm gonna mail RTE


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 550 ✭✭✭Telefís


    I use the 369 page all of the time, unfortunately the sevice has been reduced substantially over the past few years.

    It used to give the top 20 for RTÉ 1, RTÉ 2 and TV3. Then it dropped to just the top 10 for the three stations, and finally it dropped TV3 altogether - just focusing now on RTÉ 1 & 2 :(

    One wonders if they used TV3 at the beginning as its ratings were appalling at first, but as time progressed they began to show RTÉ up so they ditched them...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    www.medialive.ie
    www.tg4.ie

    Each week in TV Now for 1,2 and 3.

    and also page 365.

    Could we have this as a sticky as this is a FAQ


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,583 ✭✭✭limerick_man


    Its the same pretty much every week! TV3 get highest figures for corrie ... then RTE1 come second (but remains high), then RTE2 starts about 2 or 300,000 below TV3's highest rating!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,872 ✭✭✭segadreamcast


    Man, I genuinely had no idea that TV3 were doing that well! Good on them!


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  • Moderators, Regional North West Moderators Posts: 19,126 Mod ✭✭✭✭byte
    byte


    Thread now stickied. :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,583 ✭✭✭limerick_man


    Well TV3's only good ratings are for Corrie, if it wasnt for that they'd be struggling with RTE2


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,872 ✭✭✭segadreamcast


    "struggling with RTE2" would still be a respectable position after - what - ten years on air?

    I expected them to be a distant, lagging third for some reason, even though I probably watch it more often than RTE2.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    I expected them to be a distant, lagging third for some reason, even though I probably watch it more often than RTE2.

    TV3 has from 600,000 - 200,000 viewers for their ITV soaps.

    1. Coro St. 600,000 - 400,000 on a good week
    2. Emmers 400,000 - 250,000 on a really good week
    3. Heartbeat/The Royal - averages 200,000 viewers.

    It remains a distant 2ND place to RTE One. As it has not really done anything to change that, they rely heavily on Both Emmers and Corro do bring in viewers.

    RTE One relys heavily on the old reliables unfortunately. The Late Late Show, Winning Streak, Fair City and EastEnders.

    Its top twenty gets from 600,000 veiwers to 400,000 on a good week.

    RTE Two is doing well with Desparte House wifes and are lucky to have it. But its majority of viewers come from sport.

    RTE Two has from 350,000 to 150,000 on a good week

    To summerise

    1. RTE One's has form 600,000 - 350,000 viewers for its top 20 (Total Share 34%)
    2. TV3 has from 600,000 - 150,000 viewers for its top 20 (Total Share 15%)
    3. RTE TWO has from 350,000 - 150,000 viewers for its top 20 (Total Share 11%)
    4. TG4 has from 100,000 to 30,000 for its top 10 (Total Share 3%)

    TV3 could do better if it had some more (ok some) Irish shows to fill around Coro St. and Emmerdale IMO.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,680 ✭✭✭Skyuser


    Will The Late Late Show ever get 1million viewers. Maybe if they get Bin Laden on or someone like that. Or Elvis.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    The late late is the only show to ever get 1million viewers each year.


    The Toy Show.

    Will any show ever reach 1million viewers?

    It's Unlikely

    Coronation Street and Fair City have each reached 1million but that was pre-2001.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,315 ✭✭✭quazzy


    Elmo wrote:
    The late late is the only show to ever get 1million viewers each year.


    The Toy Show.

    Will any show ever reach 1million viewers?

    It's Unlikely

    Coronation Street and Fair City have each reached 1million but that was pre-2001.


    I'm pretty sure the Eddie Hobbs show Rip-Off Republic got over 1 million viewers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    I'm pretty sure the Eddie Hobbs show Rip-Off Republic got over 1 million viewers.

    Yeah the cork man did well but not that well he had an estimated 800,000 viewers (on average) for Rip Off Ireland.


    http://www.medialive.ie/Television/sept-rev2005.html

    http://www.medialive.ie/Television/top_a.html


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 30 plugitplayit


    Does anybody know anybody with one of the systems in their house that actually measures who is watching what? You would have to question the method. I'm not 100% sure but I think the UK use a different method?

    Last year some great ratings for the likes of Podge & Rodge, The Popes Children, has a lot to do with market share and not just overall ratings. Not much point in putting something on at 7.30 or 8pm and trying to compete with Corrie and Eastenders.

    Has anybody been watching Dan and Becks the last two nights on RTE TWO. Not very impressed but at least it is semi-original.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    Does anybody know anybody with one of the systems in their house that actually measures who is watching what? You would have to question the method. I'm not 100% sure but I think the UK use a different method?

    I know your not suggesting that the UK method is better then the Irish method but prehaps their method isn't 100% correct either.

    Channel 6, Satanta and Sky want more involvement in the research and think that 4 TV channel households are overly represented, MulitChannel being under represented.
    Not much point in putting something on at 7.30 or 8pm and trying to compete with Corrie and Eastenders.

    I think its time someone had the guts to put something up againist the Soaps.

    Emmerdale and EastEnders weren't half as popular when their where on the other channel i.e. EastEnders had 150,000 viewers on TV3 it now gets 400,000 viewers on RTE ONE and Emmerdale wasn't even on during primetime, I had about 100,000 viewers on RTE ONE it now has 350,000 viewers.

    I HATE SOAP.
    Last year some great ratings for the likes of Podge & Rodge, The Popes Children, has a lot to do with market share and not just overall ratings.

    RTE made it into second place down to LOST, DH, R&P and Sport, but then the only reason that TV3 got to be the second most watch channel was because of Corro St, Emmers and ITV Reality.

    I HATE REALITY :)

    Other then those shows TV3 and RTE 2 have very little orginal programming of their own and the ratings for other show are way below the 200,000 mark.
    Has anybody been watching Dan and Becks the last two nights on RTE TWO. Not very impressed but at least it is semi-original.

    I only saw the first episode, didn't think it was that orginal i.e. Ross O'Carroll Kelly meets Rob Brydon.

    They should really just make ROCK the TV show, ROYSH.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 30 plugitplayit


    Yeah couldn't agree more.
    But the thing about the soaps and the reality shows is that they are needed to get advertisers so that there is money to produce more home-produced programming.

    Chasing the Lions (with Hector) was made by his own company and TV3, I thought it was class. TV3 also made a decent (wasn't really my bag but production values) Diary of a Debutant.

    As regards ROCK - it MUST have been suggested. The guy who writes it Paul Howard surely went to them with an idea but I would guess he wanted too much money or something so they got your man Coffey (who was involved with Bachelors Walk) to do it. Dan & Becks to me is a poor man's attempt at doing Ross O'C-K. Affluence.

    (The guy who writes Ross is from the Brack)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    Chasing the Lions (with Hector) was made by his own company and TV3, I thought it was class. TV3 also made a decent (wasn't really my bag but production values) Diary of a Debutant.

    They where good but surely not very expensive to make. AFAIK Diary of a Debutant was produced with the Sound and Vision Fund but I could be wrong about that.

    TV3 have plenty of money to make Irish TV. They just couldn't be arsed. I would argue this point futher but I am sure other board members are sick of me giving out about TV3.

    Also TV3 and RTE 2 could try to have some orginal programming of there own, generally it gets good viewership when it gets it. A TG4 approach to budgeting is what they need to think about. IMO.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 30 plugitplayit


    I think we will see an increase in the amount of Irish programming and a definite increase in the quality of it. BCI funding must surely raise the overall bar. I watched the Hidden History last week (and the week before) presented by Cathal O'Shannon, made by Tile Films (based in Dublin) and a Canadian company. It just oozed big budget. Perhaps co-production with foreign companies should be chased up by more companies?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 165 ✭✭cmoney


    Elmo wrote:
    Will any show ever reach 1million viewers?

    It's Unlikely

    Coronation Street and Fair City have each reached 1million but that was pre-2001.

    also i recall an episode of glenroe once getting ratings of over 1 million... cant rememer exactly though.... it was a murder storyline

    and how are the ratings calculated? how do "they" know how many tv's are watching one particular channel? :confused:


  • Registered Users Posts: 162 ✭✭Lochaber


    cmoney wrote:
    also i recall an episode of glenroe once getting ratings of over 1 million... cant rememer exactly though.... it was a murder storyline

    and how are the ratings calculated? how do "they" know how many tv's are watching one particular channel? :confused:

    You know what... I don't know if this has ever really been fully explained here and I don't see any reason to not explain it... so here it is...

    3 times a year AGB Nielsen Media Research do an nationwide household establishment survey to ascertain the landscape of television viewing in Ireland. They ask questions about how you received tv in your house, how many tvs you have, what channels you have, are there any kids in the house... that kind of thing... and from that and population figures from the CSO they calculate the universes for the various demographics. A universe is the number of people in each demographics group (e.g. Individuals Nationals) and if you have 1% of that universe viewing a channel at one time that equals 1 TVR.

    From the people they've surveyed they recruit a panel to measure tv viewing (not a new one every year, they just add and subtract people from the panel as necessary). There are approx 680 homes in Ireland on this panel though this may change soon. In a panel home every tv in the house is connected to a box and the box records what channel is being watched at what time. To know who is watching the channel (i.e. what demographic) each person in the household has a button on a remote control for the box. So, when Freddie, male aged 23, sits down and turns on the tv and starts watching he then has to press his button to say he's watching.

    To make the panel representative of the Irish population, every person on the panel is assigned a weight. So, just as an example (not real figures) Freddie could be representing 2,000 people in the Men 15-34 age group. If there are say, 10,000 people in that age group (universe) then that would mean that whatever programme Freddie was watching got a rating of 20 TVR... if there were only 4,000 people watching at the time that would mean that Freddie's show got a 50% share with that 20 TVR.

    Anyway, overnight all the data from the boxes around Ireland is sent back to AGB Nielsen Media Research, they combine this information with the programme and commercial logs they received from the subscribing channels in the morning or during the week then they send it back to the tv industry who go and do with it whatever they will... This process is all part of the contract that AGB Nielsen Media Research has with the tv industry here in Ireland.

    Basically I think that's it... well... when it comes to weights and all it's a bit more complicated than that but that's the gist of the process.

    Any questions?
    Does anybody know anybody with one of the systems in their house that actually measures who is watching what? You would have to question the method. I'm not 100% sure but I think the UK use a different method?

    Question what about the method? not meaning this aggressively... I just mean... do you mean the concept of the panel, the methodology of the capture or the way mathematically that ratings calculated? (which I haven't covered above but I don't think this is the place for it...)

    Oh, also AGB Nielsen Media Research have some newsletters, no programme ratings though...

    http://www.agbnielsen.net/whereweare/dynPage.asp?lang=english&id=393&country=Ireland

    and before you ask, I don't work for them... I'd imagine I'd probably be in trouble now if I did...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,803 ✭✭✭lintdrummer


    Lochaber wrote: »
    Any questions?

    Do the 600 people on the panel get paid to have that box there? How do they pick the panel? I've never met anyone with one of these boxes.


  • Registered Users Posts: 162 ✭✭Lochaber


    Hey there,

    Sorry, I haven't checked the forum in a while...

    People on the panel don't get paid but they get "points" for various things which accrue into vouchers that can be used to buy stuff... there's a view that if they were actually paid it might influence them somehow. It's not the case in all countries though... in some countries people on the tv ratings panel do get paid.

    As for how they are picked to get a box, they are selected from the people who did the establishment survey and asked if they would go on the panel. They pick the people who best fit the demographic and other criteria that they are lacking from the panel. So for example if a household that has say... 2 people aged 15-34 one male and one female with digital reception in Dublin, decides to leave the panel then they have to go looking for a new household to fill that gap and the only way to know if a household fills those criteria is by using the answers they already have from the survey. People are picked to do the establishment survey randomly in each area by address.

    For the record, I've never met anyone with one of those boxes either... however as far as I know, they're not really supposed to tell people they have them. I suppose you'd find out if you went around their house...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 65 ✭✭CountryGirl1


    I much prefer RTE2 over the rest of the channels.:cool:They always show the best American shows while TV3 just shows rubbish documentarys!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,837 ✭✭✭✭callaway92


    Hows the Apprentice doing in ratings for TV3?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    TV3 over estimated the success of The Apprentice. Which I have said before is a fairly average show, which isn't a bad thing since I actually like all version of the show. However this may not keep the viewers.

    It is schedule on one of the most popular days of the week for Television viewing. Both RTE, TV3 and TG4 know this, TG4 can attain 90,000 viewers for some of its Monday Night shows. This is different this season with the apprentice taking so many viewers but also that RTE every year put the their prime documentaries and dramas on RTE ONE and RTE TWO. This means that competition on a Monday night this year has been huge. Which is a good thing.

    So how are they all fairing: -

    Well RTE One remains on top with the Nine O'Clock news, Bertie, Who do You think you are, Bank holiday movie and where was your family during the famine all getting average viewing of 500,000.

    RTE TWO has been a surprise this year (mainly because this has been their worst year for new productions) but they all got a good market share RTE TWO kept up an average of 200,000 viewers for Monday night, with RAW, Katherine Lynch, Living With Lucy, Rodge and Podge and others short live series, I would be surprised if the J1 show continues with this phenomona of bad successful TV for RTE TWO.

    And TV3 have averaged 250,000 viewers for the apprentice. But most weeks it has added viewers and it should be helped by I'm a Celeb..... and that it is coming to its climax. But you also have to take in to account that TV3 repeat this show twice and again on Channel Six. (twice in prime time).

    I think TV3 wanted around 500,000 (on average) viewers for this show and over estimated the popularity of the show.

    I haven't seen TG4 TAMs since the redid their website :(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 227 ✭✭lovinit


    We dont get TV3 but they seem to show roughly the same programmes as UTV


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    lovinit wrote: »
    We dont get TV3 but they seem to show roughly the same programmes as UTV


    Yeah pretty much a few exceptions. They don't show ITV News, GMTV or UTV News or any of their current affair programmes. Or any of their imported shows, US Programming and a few Irish shows are the main differences.

    They have a deal with ITV for their programmes until 2013.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo



    Prime Time (ROI)
    1. RTE 1 32.5%
    2. Other TV 14.3%
    3. TV3 12.5%
    4. RTE 2 11.8%
    5. BBC 1 5.1%
    6. UTV 4.5%
    7. CH 4 3.6%
    8. BBC 2 3.2%
    9. TG4 2.2%
    10.SKY One 2.1%
    11.Living TV 1.2%
    12.E4 1.2%
    13.SKY News 0.8%
    14.Paramount 0.8%
    15. SKY Sports 0.7%
    16. Setanta 0.7%
    17. 3e 0.7%
    18. MTV 0.7%
    19. SKY Sports 2 0.5%
    20. Nick 0.3%
    21. Nick Jr 0.2%
    22. SKY Sports News 0.1%
    23. Paramount 1 +1 0.1%


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 30 plugitplayit


    Elmo, interested to hear what you think of this? Have you seen it?

    Pretty much filling a need...37% share last week up from 33 the week before. Production values? Talent??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    Elmo, interested to hear what you think of this? Have you seen it?

    Pretty much filling a need...37% share last week up from 33 the week before. Production values? Talent??

    I think I replied to that thread. Not my type of show tbh.

    The reason you will find with 32% is because it provides most of the news and current affairs for the country. You aren't going to get the same type of news shows on other channels. Also RTÉ do a number of quality documentaries after 9 O'Clock. You see RTÉ aren't just relying on Entertainment to bring in their audience.

    Unlike TV3 and RTE TWO who rely on Soap opera and Sport (respectively) to get their audiences.

    Also the above figures are for Prime Time only. All day below.

    1 RTE 1 26.8
    2 All Other TV 17.9
    3 TV3 11.9
    4 RTE 2 10.7
    5 BBC 1 5.6
    6 UTV 4.5
    7 CH 4 3.9
    8 BBC 2 3.2
    9 TG4 2.6
    10 SKY One 2.2
    11 Living TV 1.5
    12 E4 1.3
    13 SKY News 1.3
    14 SKY Sports 1 1.1
    15 Paramount 1
    16 MTV 0.9
    17 Setanta Sports 0.8
    18 3e 0.8
    19 Nickelodeon 0.6
    20 SKY Sports 2 0.5
    21 Nick Jr 0.4
    22 SKY Sports News* 0.2
    23 Paramount 1 +1 0.1


    The All Ireland Talent Shows first episode got 536,000 viewers. I don't think the audience will stay at that level to be honest. I don't I watched a bit of the first show and am trying to avoid the show as much as I tried to avoid the Fakeness of Xfactor, which was up this year from last year.

    Also Sunday Night after the news is gold, and really it can't be as bad as Colm and Jim Jim :( even Anne Doyle couldn't save them.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 30 plugitplayit


    Yeah Colm and Jim Jim was dissapointing alright. I think i watched one full show. Thing is, the idea in theory I thought was much better - Basically a 'Where in the World?' for the 21st century. Using skype and competing against users around the world in General Knowledge questions or possibly even geography question. Didn't come close to the bulls eye though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    There is only so much of daytime television that anyone person can handle. Weather it is the banter from across the water on This Morning or Loose Women or the happy happy omg attitude of the xpose girls during this recession it will eventually grate on you and you will become addicted to finding out what the hell happens to the pregnant teenager in Neighbors (yes they don't spell it with a U).

    Daytime TV on up as times get hard

    It is time to get out of the house. Go to the gym, you possibly have paid those annual fee, go on get fit.

    OR

    Why not think of studying, while the academic year has already started perhaps it is time to look at either night or day course as a hobby that may lead you to thinking about a full time course next year. After all we have all paid the nations colleges.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,478 ✭✭✭GoneShootin


    Wish I had this last night! Thanks anyway


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    http://www.tg4.ie/bearla/leir/luch.asp

    This week see allot of English Language programming but is is down to the lack of summer programming on TG4, consisting of mainly repeats and foreign imports.

    I am surprised to see Paisean Faisean continuing to do well for TG4, I would have thought the novelty would have run it course but with 77,000 and 41,000 viewers it is doing very well for TG4.

    None of the TV rating ever mention News which accounts for most of the viewers for Irish programmes across all of the Irish channels. I suppose it is to give a general idea of what people are watching outside the news.

    Weekending the 21/06/09 They might keep this updated :)


    Channel Audience
    1 RTÉ One 22.2
    2 TV3 12.1
    3 RTÉ Two 11.6
    4 BBC One 5.2
    5 UTV 4
    6 Channel 4 3.9
    7 TG4 2.6
    8 BBC Two 2.5
    9 Sky One 2
    10 E4 1.5
    11 Living 1.2
    12 Comedy Central 1.2
    13 Sky News 1.1
    14 Sky Sports 1 1
    15 Sky Sports 2 0.9
    16 3e 0.9
    17 Setanta Ireland 0.9
    18 MTV 0.9
    19 Nickelodeon 0.8
    20 Nick Jr 0.6
    21 E4 + 1 0.5
    22 Comedy Central +1 0.5
    23 Sky Sports News 0.4
    Eile 21.5


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 55 ✭✭blueovalmk2


    how do they know wat people are watching?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    how do they know wat people are watching?

    Each of the TV channels that you see listed above subscribe to TAM Ireland, and with that subscription they allow TAM Ireland use their TV listings to do research on each of their programmes. The "other" figure can be broken down into each of the other channels available but TAM do not collect details of the shows that they watch on those other channels on their percent viewing figures.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 412 ✭✭An Tarbh


    Does anyone know where you can get ratings for Setanta 1, especially since Setanta went bust in the UK?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    An Tarbh wrote: »
    Does anyone know where you can get ratings for Setanta 1, especially since Setanta went bust in the UK?

    Setanta don't pay for full listings to be collected for Setanta 1 but they know what their the average audience share is through the statistic that they pay for Setanta Ireland.

    Setanta 1 doesn't rely on audience share, rather it is more interested in subscriptions. Setanta Ireland has a deal with both UPC and Magnet to be on their basic packages but both are paying for this, Setanta Ireland cut the price of their service for the companies hence they rely on audience share for advertising.

    No company will provide a breakdown of the 20% share that "other" channels get :mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    Well The Apprentice has out done itself this year and You're Fired show is doing as well as last years Main show. RTÉ One is just doing as well but The Apprentice has been the big Monday Night success with 350,000 viewers on average up 100,000 viewers from last year.

    Perhaps RTÉ TWO thought it could get away with last years on slaught of bad yet viewer getting TV on Monday nights. This year has been a disaster, with Carl Spain only getting 67,000 viewers (TBH in comparison to the other stuff thrown out by the station this year it isn't all that bad.) And the lost of RAW from the schedule has certainly effected the channel, I believe RAW is moving to RTÉ ONE.

    The Frontline is just get above the 350,000 and will possible see a drop in viewers as the Apprentice moved to 10pm to make way for ITVs I'm a Celeb on TV3.

    Over the last year RTÉ One's overall TV audience has been around the 24% mark, TV3 has steadily increased its lead over RTÉ TWO with up to 13% while RTÉ TWO's as been as low as 8% and TG4 audience share remains around the 2.5% mark. 3e saw a slight increase when it moved to 105 on Sky from .8% to 1.2% but this only brings it back to C6's audience levels back in 2008. Setanta Ireland jumps from 0.5% to 1.2%.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 194 ✭✭TetsuoHashimoto


    So has TV3 now passed RTE2 with its newest shows?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    So has TV3 now passed RTE2 with its newest shows?

    What new shows? X-Factor, Corrie, Emmerdale and others take up a large part of TV3's schedule, this is where they are retaining audiences. The Apprentice on Monday night has been a huge success for them as a channel, and this has been helped by lack of competition from RTÉ Two. RTÉ Two's adultschedule is a disgrace, badly commissioned shows over the last 2 years has caused this decline. The only reason they are holding on is because of sports. This month will see RTÉ Two return to about 10% audience share just based on two Irish Soccer games this month. This autumn has been a great success for TV3 but it will have to wait for ITV's Britian's Got Talent to see it through the start of 2010 they currently have no major Irish series planned for the start 2010. While RTÉ Two will continue to have support from their wide range of sports including the World Cup which will see major increases for the channel even with Ireland out of the games.


  • Registered Users Posts: 162 ✭✭Lochaber


    Elmo wrote: »
    No company will provide a breakdown of the 20% share that "other" channels get :mad:

    As far as I'm aware Nielsen does not record what channels most of the 20% share is made up of... they certainly didn't used to. They do record some other channels that aren't on the subscriber list, notably BBC1 and BBC2 but there are only a small handful of other channels that are measured - generally ones that used to be on cable back in the day, for example Eurosport is on, even though it's a very small channel now.

    TBH I wouldn't trust that the viewing could be broken down reliably. I don't think "other" channels are on the reference site (aside from BBC1+2) which means that it's unlikely all the viewing is being collected in a form that can be broken down.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    Lochaber wrote: »
    As far as I'm aware Nielsen does not record what channels most of the 20% share is made up of... they certainly didn't used to. They do record some other channels that aren't on the subscriber list, notably BBC1 and BBC2 but there are only a small handful of other channels that are measured - generally ones that used to be on cable back in the day, for example Eurosport is on, even though it's a very small channel now.

    TBH I wouldn't trust that the viewing could be broken down reliably. I don't think "other" channels are on the reference site (aside from BBC1+2) which means that it's unlikely all the viewing is being collected in a form that can be broken down.

    Nielsen does not breakdown by programme but gives an overview of peak and all day viewing so advertisers and TV services know the audience figures for channels for Dave and EuroSport and the like.

    "Other" Channels are usual given a 20% - 25% audience share. But Neilsen would have to add their schedules to the software see what the audience of EuroSport is getting for Tour De France Highlights or QI on Dave.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 255 ✭✭Lemondrop kid


    Elmo wrote: »
    Each of the TV channels that you see listed above subscribe to TAM Ireland, and with that subscription they allow TAM Ireland use their TV listings to do research on each of their programmes. The "other" figure can be broken down into each of the other channels available but TAM do not collect details of the shows that they watch on those other channels on their percent viewing figures.
    my bold
    Just came across this thread - interesting. Tell me, do you mean TAM ring people up and ask them what they watch? Still not clear how they compile their viewer figures


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