Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 11/12 (End of March 2012 onwards)

Sasquatch76 · 13-04-2012 11:11pm

Andy Carroll wrote: »

No I am not arguing semantics. What you posted was just completely untrue.

How so Andrew? Did we not waste a load of money?

Jesus Wept · 13-04-2012 11:15pm

Sasquatch76 wrote: »

How so Andrew? Did we not waste a load of money?

I even bolded the untrue statements for you, so have a read back if need be.

Sasquatch76 · 13-04-2012 11:18pm

Andy Carroll wrote: »

I even bolded the untrue statements for you, so have a read back if need be.

I'm aware of what I wrote, thanks. We wasted a load of money on the first team essentially. That is, as far as I'm concerned, true. If it offends you to be classed as a waste of money, then I'm sorry Andy. Try harder not to suck at your job.

mike65 · 13-04-2012 11:29pm

The bastards! They come over 'ere sacking our technical directors and then they piss off home to watch rounders!

5starpool · 13-04-2012 11:46pm

Sasquatch76 wrote: »

I'm aware of what I wrote, thanks. We wasted a load of money on the first team essentially. That is, as far as I'm concerned, true. If it offends you to be classed as a waste of money, then I'm sorry Andy. Try harder not to suck at your job.

He's not disputing that we wasted a lot of money, what he is disputing is your view that the owners have contributed a lot of that money. Doubtless it could have been spent better, but about 90% of the money spent I'd say came from money received on transfers and saved by trimming the wage bill.

Jesus Wept · 13-04-2012 11:49pm

Sasquatch76 wrote: »

I'm aware of what I wrote, thanks.

You're quite obviously not.

5starpool wrote: »

He's not disputing that we wasted a lot of money, what he is disputing is your view that the owners have contributed a lot of that money. Doubtless it could have been spent better, but about 90% of the money spent I'd say came from money received on transfers and saved by trimming the wage bill.

lol, my internet crashed as I was trying to post (I did save the post).
You certainly put it across in a more diplomatic manner.

5starpool · 13-04-2012 11:52pm

Andy Carroll wrote: »

You're quite obviously not.

lol, my internet crashed as I was trying to post (I did save the post).
You certainly put it across in a more diplomatic manner.

That's how I roll Frank, that's how I roll.

Sasquatch76 · 13-04-2012 11:55pm

5starpool wrote: »

He's not disputing that we wasted a lot of money, what he is disputing is your view that the owners have contributed a lot of that money. Doubtless it could have been spent better, but about 90% of the money spent I'd say came from money received on transfers and saved by trimming the wage bill.

Yeah I know

I've made the same point multiple times myself, a couple of times in the last few pages, including once immediately below one of the posts he quoted. Me and the Rigger/Andy have had this convo before and I've told him I agree with him. But on this occasion, I never said it was their own money they spent (rather than funds recouped from sales), and I didn't clarify because it was entirely irrelevant to the points I was making.

mike65 · 13-04-2012 11:57pm

http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2896/premier-league/2012/04/13/3034848/pachuca-starlet-hector-herrera-admits-to-meeting-liverpool

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2129532/Johan-Cruyff-joining-Liverpool.html

~Rebel~ · 14-04-2012 12:04am

Now there's a face that'll sell some jerseys!

Jesus Wept · 14-04-2012 12:07am

**** it. Here goes.

Sasquatch76 wrote: »

We wasted a load of money on the first team essentially. That is, as far as I'm concerned, true. If it offends you to be classed as a waste of money, then I'm sorry Andy. Try harder not to suck at your job.

Firstly, it does not remotely offend me. Money was wasted. Exorbitant fees were squandered on average players. No debate.

Sasquatch76 wrote: »

I'm aware of what I wrote, thanks.

Clearly you are not or you just aren't putting it across properly but think you are. Or as your most recent posts suggests, you are just being deliberately obtuse.

Perhaps aim for a better than 1 in 3 ratio in which your posts could be described in any way as accurate?

So here goes once more with ghusto:

Sasquatch76 wrote: »

Thing is, they've already spunked a load of money into the first team.

They have not put any money INTO the first team/squad, nor spunked it in, jipped it in or rode it in. Nothing went in.

This is not semantics, you are just plain wrong.

You followed up with...

Sasquatch76 wrote: »

I agree. I'm just saying that initially they DID try to go nuts rather than the long term approach, and it backfired badly.

How did they go 'nuts'? They have not put any money into the first team/squad.

If you consider that going 'nuts' then I don't know what to say.
Your definition of going nuts differs greatly from mine. Man City could be considered to be going a bit nuts, Chelsea in years gone by have gone a bit nuts.

I imagine that if your dinner consisted of having a bit of dry bread with a glass of water on the side for dipping, you'd be thinking to yourself, 'I'M GOING NUTS!!!1!!

Sasquatch76 · 14-04-2012 12:37am

Andy Carroll wrote: »

Money was wasted. Exorbitant fees were squandered on average players. No debate.

That's what I meant by spunked, no more no less.

Andy Carroll wrote: »

you just aren't putting it across properly but think you are.

Quite possible. The English language is not my strong point.

Andy Carroll wrote: »

Or as your most recent posts suggests, you are just being deliberately obtuse.

Not true.

Andy Carroll wrote: »

Perhaps aim for a better than 1 in 3 ratio in which your posts could be described in any way as accurate?

You know where the ignore button is.

Andy Carroll wrote: »

They have not put any money INTO the first team/squad, nor spunked it in, jipped it in or rode it in. Nothing went in.

See above re: my use of "spunked".

Andy Carroll wrote: »

you are just plain wrong.

Again, you missed my posts where I've fully acknowledged our net spend is practically nothing.

Andy Carroll wrote: »

How did they go 'nuts'? They have not put any money into the first team/squad.

The context of that quote is important. Myself and PaulieC were talking long term vs short term. That is would we, and I'm using his words here as I don't have the linguistic skills, "be looking to spend wisely when we do spend rather than go nuts in an attempt to change the clubs fortunes in one or two transfer windows." I used the phrase "go nuts" because in his comment, it was the opposite of "spend wisely" which we didn't do (imo).

Andy Carroll wrote: »

I imagine that if your dinner consisted of having a bit of dry bread with a glass of water on the side for dipping, you'd be thinking to yourself, 'I'M GOING NUTS!!!1!!

Yeah.

Jesus Wept · 14-04-2012 1:19am

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1urq4Vb0XM

dannydiamond · 14-04-2012 1:21am

FA cup semi at wembley tomorrow, it's all about this single game. Thank fk we have something to get excited about.

'Pool v Everton in Wembley on this weekend in particular, you couldn't make it up. Really looking forward to it. Game should be a cracker.

dannydiamond · 14-04-2012 2:21am

Bless 'em.:)

Morzadec · 14-04-2012 2:51am

dannydiamond wrote: »

Bless 'em.:)

Jesus Wept · 14-04-2012 1:35pm

Kenny out.

mike65 · 14-04-2012 2:26pm

kENNY IN!

Nope I mean Kenny out....a win despite of the manager but alas all the fan boys will tell us how everything's just fine.

ShamoBuc · 14-04-2012 2:29pm

WEMBLEY BABY - AGAIN!!!!!

Andy Carroll - LEGEND

noodler · 14-04-2012 2:30pm

Everything is not fine but lets not worry about managers for the moment.

Kenny is guaranteed to be here for the final (of course!) at the very least.

I almost feel bad for Everton.

ShamoBuc · 14-04-2012 2:30pm

Andy Carroll wrote: »

Kenny out.

Of all the people to say that:pac:

Super-Rush · 14-04-2012 2:35pm

Glad I took us at half time to win.

Days drinking paid for.

Yakult · 14-04-2012 2:35pm

Great win today, first half not so good but came out second half with passion and a desire to win. Suarez and Carroll played well, two great goals. Another final to look forward to, deserved!

Mr Alan · 14-04-2012 2:37pm

mike65 wrote: »

kENNY IN!

Nope I mean Kenny out....a win despite of the manager but alas all the fan boys will tell us how everything's just fine.

I don't even know why someone would feel the need to post this within minutes of beating your local rivals to get to the FA Cup final. Genuinely.

joe123 · 14-04-2012 2:41pm

What date is the Fa cup final? Gotta book it off work!

mike65 · 14-04-2012 2:42pm

Mr Alan wrote: »

I don't even know why someone would feel the need to post this within minutes of beating your local rivals to get to the FA Cup final. Genuinely.

I genuinely don't give a blankety blank what you think to be honest. The game was the perfect summary of why the manager isn't good enough.

djPSB · 14-04-2012 2:42pm

WOHOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!

Finally my defence of Andy Carroll through the tough times seems somewhat worthy!! Good man Andy!!

Great win!!

Mr Alan · 14-04-2012 2:44pm

mike65 wrote: »

I genuinely don't give a blankety blank what you think to be honest. The game was the perfect summary of why the manager isn't good enough.

Weird. Weird. Weird.

whatawaster · 14-04-2012 2:44pm

Mr Alan wrote: »

I don't even know why someone would feel the need to post this within minutes of beating your local rivals to get to the FA Cup final. Genuinely.

Many minds are already made up about Kenny, mine included, but hopefully he bows out with an FA Cup and a dignified resignation.

Carroll and Suarez were brilliant, especially second half.

FunkZ · 14-04-2012 2:45pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ma3Nax8yyOE

Turtyturd · 14-04-2012 2:46pm

Andy Carroll wrote: »

Kenny out.

mike65 wrote: »

kENNY IN!

Nope I mean Kenny out....a win despite of the manager but alas all the fan boys will tell us how everything's just fine.

Kenny shake it all about???

djPSB · 14-04-2012 2:46pm

Jaysus can the Kenny begrudgers not just give it a rest for a few hours.

Delighted for the man!!

NukaCola · 14-04-2012 2:46pm

mike65 wrote: »

kENNY IN!

Nope I mean Kenny out....a win despite of the manager but alas all the fan boys will tell us how everything's just fine.

Come on.....dont be so misereable

Nuri Sahin · 14-04-2012 2:46pm

Linda Pizzuti ‏ @Linda_Pizzuti Close
Buzzing. Fantastic win, heart pounding still. May 5th, LFC will be back at Wembley again!

No clean sheet though

___

****ing ecstatic, delighted for Jones and Carroll in particular.

Sir Gallagher · 14-04-2012 2:49pm

-Ade- wrote: »

Linda Pizzuti ‏ @Linda_Pizzuti Close
Buzzing. Fantastic win, heart pounding still. May 5th, LFC will be back at Wembley again!

No clean sheet though

___

****ing ecstatic, delighted for Jones and Carroll in particular.

whatawaster · 14-04-2012 2:50pm

-Ade- wrote: »

delighted for Jones

Absolutely. After what he's been through this year, I'd love to see him lead us up the steps to lift the cup.

Sir Gallagher · 14-04-2012 2:52pm

whatawaster wrote: »

Absolutely. After what he's been through this year, I'd love to see him lead us up the steps to lift the cup.

At the risk of looking like a pr1ck i disagree.

mike65 · 14-04-2012 2:52pm

Jones did pretty well, I'd say his "flap" rate was no worse than Reinas recently.

DB10 · 14-04-2012 2:52pm

Dalglish out

Oh no he won two games, hes the greatest manager in Europe.

Jesus Wept · 14-04-2012 2:53pm

whatawaster wrote: »

Absolutely. After what he's been through this year, I'd love to see him lead us up the steps to lift the cup.

Carra would probably get the nod to start between the sticks ahead of Jones.

Sir Gallagher · 14-04-2012 2:54pm

DB10 wrote: »

Dalglish out

Oh no he won two games, hes the greatest manager in Europe.

It was the world two minutes ago. The smell of clownshoes of your posts.

Jesus Wept · 14-04-2012 2:55pm

dannydiamond wrote: »

Bless 'em.:)

Finn Sutton: I'm really SHOUTY.... in my house I do shout a lot... and I've got quite a loud voice.

**** presenting, I think we have found our long term Carra replacement.

daithijjj · 14-04-2012 2:56pm

Jesus Wept · 14-04-2012 2:57pm

DB10 wrote: »

Dalglish out

Oh no he won two games, hes the greatest manager in Europe.

You've already won most retarded post of the day for posting the same in the match thread. The title is yours.

Of you go to celebrate it now lad, you're an inspiration.

monkey9 · 14-04-2012 2:57pm

DB10 wrote: »

Dalglish out

Oh no he won two games, hes the greatest manager in Europe.

Posting the same lie in two threads??

whatawaster · 14-04-2012 2:58pm

Andy Carroll wrote: »

Carra would probably get the nod to start between the sticks ahead of Jones.

I don't expect him to be even on the bench, but he'd get a medal.

NukaCola · 14-04-2012 2:58pm

If you ignore him maybe he will go away

Sir Gallagher · 14-04-2012 2:59pm

daithijjj wrote: »

hahahahaha brilliant.

murpho999 · 14-04-2012 3:00pm

Delighted with that, for Kenny & Andy!

Wish people here would stop judging players and the manager based on 5 minutes in a match or a poor run of form.

Think today showed that Andy Carroll is good enough for the club and hopefully now will only get better.

Also, people should show more faith in Kenny and realise he's actually tactically astute and let him get on with the job.

5starpool · 14-04-2012 3:02pm

So if things go bad it's Kenny's fault, if it goes right it's nothing to do with him. Echoes of Rafa's last months when everything was black and white.

Kenny makes mistakes, but he does some things right as well. Enjoy the result and we can leave the season post mortem until after the cup final, or possibly even the Swansea away game.

Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 11/12 (End of March 2012 onwards)

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