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England v Ireland St Patricks Day 2012

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  • #1452
    JRant
    Registered Users Posts: 13,144 ✭✭✭✭JRant


    molloyjh wrote: »
    JRant wrote: »
    Didn't see it tonight but sat through The Breakdown the other night. It was just a litany of mistakes from start to finish.
    When you see the overhead shots at scrum time you realise there was nothing Court could have done either. The LH was never square at any time, the push was coming before the ball was in and Hartley was up to his old standing up tricks.

    What was the overall opinion from the lads on the Breakdown? Missed it myself and would love to know their take on the whole thing...
    Lelantos wrote: »
    Sorry, but its not rubbish, I'm asking would Irish supporters rather have the Welsh model, international success over club success? I'm quite sure that many Munster & Leinster fans would prefer continued HC success to 6n championships

    I'd rather not have to choose personally. But if I absolutely had to I'd pick Leinster for one very simple reason. If I'm going to watch one of my teams suffer I'd rather see less of it. And there are a lot less Ireland games than Leinster ones.

    Obviously though I want both to succeed.
    Lelantos wrote: »
    If its rubbish, why can't Wales translate their international success to club success? It's not logical to believe that HC rugby success has to transfer to the international stage, blaming DK for that is just silly

    I think looking at this the other way around, i.e. national level down to club level, is all a bit disingenuous. All you need is a pool of 25-30 quality players to make up a good national squad. If a handful of those are abroad and the others are spread across the 5 regions that's an average of 4-5 quality players per region. If that's all Wales had (for arguments sake) then the regions couldn't succeed.

    However if the regions had 10-12 quality NIQs each then those 50-60 players would be battling it out at national level.

    In other words just because a national side has enough quality players to create a quality team, doesn't mean their clubs/provinces/regions do. If the clubs had enough then the national side would be laughing. It's apples and oranges really.

    Add to that the problems Wales have at regional level and the financial issues that come from that and they just can't afford the same quality coaching staff that our provinces can.

    They pretty much just went through the game as it happened. Didn't go into to much detail on the overall performance of the team during the 6N's. They're doing a full breakdown next week so it should be very interesting to hear what they have to say.

    "Well, yeah, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man"



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