The Pat Kenny Show Thread

constitutionus · 02-07-2012 10:31am

myles worried about people not paying a tax.

wonder why ?

i have to admit to being at a loss to the tack hes trying on the expenses though. the gov do ALOT worse on things for themselves (hogan and his tax avoiding advisers for example)

bert and co must be laughing at that line of questioning.

mike65 · 02-07-2012 10:52am

Ah jasus the smoking prolls again!

IvyTheTerrible · 02-07-2012 10:55am

And in 20 years Paddy will be interviewing the kids of these people...

Rovi · 02-07-2012 10:56am

IvyTheTerrible wrote: »

And in 20 years Paddy will be interviewing the kids of these people...

17 years!!!

constitutionus · 02-07-2012 10:58am

"how did ya get TB at a brothel"

jesus do the maths man !

im only amazed the bloke didnt reply "riding"

RadioRetro · 02-07-2012 11:00am

I'm sorry but I just am fed up to the back teeth with Man-O-De-Peeple P.O'Gorman. I find his constant voxpops are now indistinguishable from each other, no matter the subject matter. Switched to 5 Live and will probably stay there from 10am onwards now.

Callan57 · 02-07-2012 11:03am

constitutionus wrote: »

myles worried about people not paying a tax.

wonder why ?

i have to admit to being at a loss to the tack hes trying on the expenses though. the gov do ALOT worse on things for themselves (hogan and his tax avoiding advisers for example)

bert and co must be laughing at that line of questioning.

Surely the point about the expenses is that they are obviously grossly over generous .... expenses, as I understand it, are supposed to reimburse the TD for the cost incurred in travelling to and from the Dáil not to provide a slush-fund to be spent at the discretion of the TD. (Although why they get expenses to travel to their place of work, when they are already on excessive salaries, and the rest of us mere taxpayers cannot claim travel expenses is another issue!)

As with Pierce Doherty last week if Joe has money left from his expenses then clearly he is either overclaiming on expenses or as I said above the expenses being paid are seriously overgenerous and have no relation to the expense actually incurred (if any).
Quite simply, as in any private company, if you claim expenses you should be required to product documentary proof of that expense.

I despair for this country .... what is it about Leinster House that as soon as anyone puts a foot inside the gate they loose all sense of right and wrong or fair and unfair. That place needs to be fumigated urgently.

Yakuza · 02-07-2012 11:04am

constitutionus wrote: »

"how did ya get TB at a brothel"

jesus do the maths man !

im only amazed the bloke didnt reply "riding"

I thought it was a fair question - I'm not a doctor but I don't think TB is an STD. His immune system was severely compromised from the sh1te he was putting into his body, so could he have caught it walking to and from the, err, "house of ill repute".

Callan57 · 02-07-2012 11:13am

Yakuza wrote: »

I thought it was a fair question - I'm not a doctor but I don't think TB is an STD. His immune system was severely compromised from the sh1te he was putting into his body, so could he have caught it walking to and from the, err, "house of ill repute".

It's not an STD but TB is spread by human contact & unsanitary conditions which is why it was rampant in the Dublin slums of the 1940 & 50's. I don't have any first hand knowledge but I somehow doubt that Health & Safety is a big priority in a brothel.

constitutionus · 02-07-2012 11:19am

yup.

remember TB is practically extinct here thanks to the measures taken back then to tackle it so where did o gorman think was more likely the bloke got it.

walking around the streets, or in a brothel that serves junkies?

dumbest question ive heard in a long time. which is some feat for RTE.

Yakuza · 02-07-2012 11:21am

Callan57 wrote: »

It's not an STD but TB is spread by human contact & unsanitary conditions which is why it was rampant in the Dublin slums of the 1940 & 50's. I don't have any first hand knowledge but I somehow doubt that Health & Safety is a big priority in a brothel.

Fair enough, but my point was that his lifestyle was such that he could have caught it anywhere, even if he'd never gone near a brothel. There's a line in Trainspotting (the book, I don't think it made it into the film) along the lines of personal hygiene and looking after one's health isn't a major priority for drug-users, so his own living quarters could have been a breeding ground for it.

I guess, though, on the balance of probabilities, he did get it there, just not directly from "de royadin"

Stereomaniac · 02-07-2012 11:43am

Yeah, in Trainspotting, the book, that's mentioned. The closest the movie comes to it is when he lists off all of the stuff you have to worry about when you're clean. Football teams etc. Drug abuse weakens your immune system and you are more susceptible to colds and flus, and all manner of things really. Heroin is the worst substance for this, I believe.

Callan57 · 02-07-2012 11:44am

I think it is hilarious the way John Banville when being interviewed as Benjamin Black can refer to John Banville in the 3rd person .... very funny man, I could listen to him all day. Love the books too, by both authors!

mike65 · 02-07-2012 11:50am

History slot alert!

artful_codger · 02-07-2012 11:51am

Stereomaniac wrote: »

Drug abuse weakens your immune system and you are more susceptible to colds and flus, and all manner of things really. Heroin is the worst substance for this, I believe.

unfortunately it doesn't make them impotent.

Lapin · 03-07-2012 10:57am

After the 11 o clock news, Myles will be discussing the upcoming work by Seamus Heany reflecting on the Ulster Bank debacle.

This will be followed by an interview with some obscure actor who is playing a monologue part in a six act play in the Gate theatre about the lack of intervention by the financial regulator.

He will then discuss the philisophical relationship between the Central Bank and its its interpetation of what it means to be Irish in 2012 with Fintan O'Toole.

The last 10 Minutes will feature a (recorded) piece portraying the thoughts of Arsene Wenger, with some interesting music of his choice.

I don't know where he's going to find time for the book review of The art of Currency by professor Christiansen Ludwig Amadeus Xuschlezigdorf the Guggenheim Schlokengloken Prikabout Institute of Gobbldy.

JonathanAnon · 03-07-2012 11:00am

Shhhhhh Lapin.. I'm trying to listen to this woman explain about how Cromwell was a lonely child..

bureau2009 · 03-07-2012 11:12am

Callan57 wrote: »

I don't have any first hand knowledge but I somehow doubt that Health & Safety is a big priority in a brothel.

No, I'm sure there are other priorities

jonniebgood1 · 03-07-2012 11:41am

Lapin wrote: »

After the 11 o clock news, Myles will be discussing the upcoming work by Seamus Heany reflecting on the Ulster Bank debacle.

This will be followed by an interview with some obscure actor who is playing a monologue part in a six act play in the Gate theatre about the lack of intervention by the financial regulator.

He will then discuss the philisophical relationship between the Central Bank and its its interpetation of what it means to be Irish in 2012 with Fintan O'Toole.

The last 10 Minutes will feature a (recorded) piece portraying the thoughts of Arsene Wenger, with some interesting music of his choice.

I don't know where he's going to find time for the book review of The art of Currency by professor Christiansen Ludwig Amadeus Xuschlezigdorf the Guggenheim Schlokengloken Prikabout Institute of Gobbldy.

I find Myles likeable. His arty tangents are a bit overdone but he also tangents to history:pac:

jimmyw · 04-07-2012 2:06pm

I enjoyed the piece with Jeremy Vine, and the quotes he mentioned from that other Jeremy, (Paxman) were hilarious,funny guy.

He ruined it at the end though by mentioning RT:(:p

spank_inferno · 04-07-2012 4:56pm

Jeremy Vine was very good alright.

Also, that Paxo guy is a legend.

jonniebgood1 · 06-07-2012 11:40am

Anyone else think that Myles has done a good job standing in for PK?

P. Breathnach · 06-07-2012 12:07pm

jonniebgood1 wrote: »

Anyone else think that Myles has done a good job standing in for PK?

Yes.

But it wasn't really the Pat Kenny Show; it was the Myles Dungan Show. The flavour was somewhat different. That's neither a positive nor a negative.

touts · 09-07-2012 10:23am

Pat's back today.

The first 15 minutes (and still going) have all been about that tragic family who had the accident in the UK. A reporter from their local town, then the local priest and now some reporter from the UK. I have to say it is uncomfortable listening as the private lives of the victims are discussed on air. Nothing bad (in fact all good) but I know if it was me I wouldn't be comfortable with my life and current injuries being discussed on national radio. I know nothing bad is being said about them but if just feels like we are intruding on a very personal time.

IvyTheTerrible · 09-07-2012 10:33am

This guy says "equality" like it's a dirty word.

constitutionus · 09-07-2012 10:43am

hes' got ivana by the bollocks there thought.

how can women be important in politics but not in child raising ?

i think the whole equality thing is bollocks anyway, the whole POINT of marriage in the eyes of the state is to give a group of people superior rights over others for services rendered.

production of kids.

what the hell do i get out of gay marriage except a tax bill ?

biggest problem we have in this country is half the people running it dont fecking think things through.

Yakuza · 09-07-2012 10:45am

Jaysus, Bacik's tone and attitude get my goat up. Having a condescending bint as your advocate isn't a good policy. On sheer principle, I'd nearly be agin what she's for, whatever the subject.

JonathanAnon · 09-07-2012 12:11pm

constitutionus wrote: »

what the hell do i get out of gay marriage except a tax bill ?

There was a very interesting discussion on this topic yesterday on The Sunday Show.. John Waters was very funny.

Nascence · 09-07-2012 12:37pm

constitutionus wrote: »

i think the whole equality thing is bollocks anyway, the whole POINT of marriage in the eyes of the state is to give a group of people superior rights over others for services rendered.

production of kids.

what the hell do i get out of gay marriage except a tax bill ?

biggest problem we have in this country is half the people running it dont fecking think things through.

Your point will be considered valid when marriages either through choice or circumstance or age who are childless are sued for breach of contract by the State.

You get nothing out of gay marriage, if you're a man you probably get nothing about equal workplace rights for women because it's nothing to do with you - it's why minority rights subject to majority vote isn't a good thing.

touts · 09-07-2012 1:19pm

The state shouldn't do Marraige. It should all be Civil Partnerships. Let anyone who wants a Civil Partnership apply for one. Man and a Woman. Man and Man, Woman and Woman, Brother & Brother, Sister & Brother. Whatever the "family" unit happens to be. There are lots of cases of two bachelor brothers living together on a farm where one dies and the other gets hit with an inheritance bill. Why should ehty be any different from a man and a woman unrelated to each other other than having a piece of paper that says they once said "I do" to each other.

Let "Marraige" be whatever people want then on top of the civil partnership. A church wedding. A Civil service. A couple of pints down the local. Or nothing at all.

When it comes to adoption rights etc then make a civil partnership the basic state mandated requirement and let the experts in the adoption board assess each couple on their merits.

constitutionus · 09-07-2012 1:33pm

Nascence wrote: »

Your point will be considered valid when marriages either through choice or circumstance or age who are childless are sued for breach of contract by the State.

You get nothing out of gay marriage, if you're a man you probably get nothing about equal workplace rights for women because it's nothing to do with you - it's why minority rights subject to majority vote isn't a good thing.

well in a secular world thatll be inevitable.

after all why am i giving tax breaks to childless couples?

this is the inevitable conclusion to that agenda.

on your latter point.

were a democracy, tough. i dont want my country socially engineered by the ivana baciks of the world. particularly consideing how they devestated it over the last 30yrs.

Nascence · 09-07-2012 1:41pm

constitutionus wrote: »

well in a secular world thatll be inevitable.

after all why am i giving tax breaks to childless couples?

this is the inevitable conclusion to that agenda.

on your latter point.

were a democracy, tough. i dont want my country socially engineered by the ivan baciks of the world. particularly consideing how they devestated it over the last 30yrs.

Why are people with no children giving their hard earned cash to primary schools? Why are people with no disabled dependents or relatives supporting services for them?

We're a society, tough.

Your problem is with the tax code. Representative democracy implies more than pure majority rule. I don't recall suffrage or interracial marriage requiring the male or white electorate deigning to gift it to the minority.

constitutionus · 09-07-2012 1:45pm

raising four kids to college age costs one million euros over 20 years .

how is that contribution comparable to a happily married couple, gay or straight, with no kids just banging each other ?

theres a reason the state supports marriage and its got feck all to do with love religion or society.

it screws more money out of em than it ever ponys up.

people with no kids benefit from this as theres a whole new generations of tax payers produced that fund their pensions.

LAB/FG/FF and co fecking around with that by attacking the family unit over the decades forcing women into the workforce under the guise of liberalism has buggered that up, hence the now oncoming "pensions crisis".

jimmyw · 10-07-2012 3:06pm

Jaynee mack that Duncan Stewart is a pain.Maybe Duncan we should all just go homeless or get rid of ourselves, and that would sort the "Global Warning"thing and save on fossil fuels.

He even went off on one when the sports guy and Pat were talking about all the water thats on the pitches and recovery of it........Global warning.......bla bla bla

yeah yeah.That bump on the head he got a few years back obviously didnt change him :rolleyes:

He is such a doom and gloom merchant:(

Dirigent · 11-07-2012 10:40am

I'm vehemently against the death penalty, but even I would make an exception for Pat's current guest, Alastair Campbell.

This lying pr1ck is probably the most detestable example of human excrement on the planet.

telekon · 11-07-2012 10:50am

Dirigent wrote: »

I'm vehemently against the death penalty, but even I would make an exception for Pat's current guest, Alastair Campbell.

This lying pr1ck is probably the most detestable example of human excrement on the planet.

I raise you one Bertie...

Dirigent · 11-07-2012 10:54am

telekon wrote: »

I raise you one Bertie...

Ahern (I don't use his canine nickname) destroyed a country's economy. Campbell, on the other hand, justifies the destruction of an entire country.

two wheels good · 11-07-2012 11:03am

Dirigent wrote: »

I'm vehemently against the death penalty, but even I would make an exception for Pat's current guest, Alastair Campbell.

This lying pr1ck is probably the most detestable example of human excrement on the planet.

I emailed PK to ask why he was giving this bully and liar any more publicity.
I should have suggested he ask Campbell about Malcolm Tucker and Armando Ianucci (spelling?) Apparently that really annoys Campbell.

Nice to have Pat back on air.

Welsh Megaman · 11-07-2012 11:15am

Der...gee Mary what's bread herpa derp?

Yakuza · 11-07-2012 11:16am

Oh Christ, MLOD. Why can't she have stayed on her holidays

IvyTheTerrible · 11-07-2012 11:26am

He measures the water?

Well my stars what an insight.

Yakuza · 11-07-2012 11:46am

What are poims / poitry? Some form of artistic expression, it would seem :mad: (or a knob-ended way of pronouncing poem)

Harry Angstrom · 11-07-2012 11:47am

If we ever get around to having a referendum to abolish the pointless Seanad, all we'll have to do is wheel out the examples of MLOD on her jaunts around the country for the PK Show, while she's already being paid handsomely by the State as a "full-time" Senator. :rolleyes:

As for Campbell, I'm sick of the way that Kenny almost always gives him an easy ride. Most of that interview was a puff-piece for Campbell's endless memoirs. It was only at the end where Pat started asking the difficult questions. It's as if he goes all starry-eyed every time he interviews his pal Al.

Callan57 · 11-07-2012 11:47am

Yakuza wrote: »

Oh Christ, MLOD. Why can't she have stayed on her holidays

Gets my "Most Agrivating Woman" award .... Painful to listen to :mad:

steelcityblues · 11-07-2012 6:40pm

Alistair Campbell should be 'yesterday's man', and not brought on to talk the same crap about Iraq. He has said it a million times before, on so many outlets. If he is on, at least have someone with proper anti-war credentials challenge him.

Makes me wonder if Kenny is sympathetic to that New Labour line of thinking on foreign affairs.

touts · 12-07-2012 7:17am

Callan57 wrote: »

Gets my "Most Agrivating Woman" award .... Painful to listen to :mad:

Credit to Pat for taking the piss out of her over her over the top descriptions of the men she meets on these road trips (they are all "like a God"). She didn't like it at all.:D

talktojoe · 12-07-2012 10:58am

Just listening to the interview with the above just now, the chef mentioned that he spoke fluent french when serving Sarkozy and his Mrs at the White House.
He then goes on to pronounce "repetoire" as "repetoree" when mentioning his mother as being a great influence on him!
Some French......

IvyTheTerrible · 12-07-2012 11:16am

talktojoe wrote: »

Just listening to the interview with the above just now, the chef mentioned that he spoke fluent french when serving Sarkozy and his Mrs at the White House.
He then goes on to pronounce "repetoire" as "repetoree" when mentioning his mother as being a great influence on him!
Some French......

Are you sure he wasn't talking about acting?

P. Breathnach · 12-07-2012 11:33am

talktojoe wrote: »

Just listening to the interview with the above just now, the chef mentioned that he spoke fluent french when serving Sarkozy and his Mrs at the White House.
He then goes on to pronounce "repetoire" as "repetoree" when mentioning his mother as being a great influence on him!
Some French......

I noticed that, too.

A little later, he used the word again, and pronounced it more like the French way. I suppose that "repetoree" is the preferred pronunciation in American English.

[PS: I don't think he claimed that his French was fluent - just that he spoke French.]

constitutionus · 13-07-2012 10:17am

you know the one thing i love about this trial in maurituis is the staggering hypocracy of RTE in covering it.

think of everything thats been said on PK today about it.

and now stick the word "ireland" in instead and ask yourself if tommy and pat would have the bollocks to say HALF that stuff about our own system.

gas thing is they probably dont even see it. listening right now you'd swear theyd be HAPPY with two innocent guys going to jail just so they could get the story they want.

our media writ large i guess.

slagging off the jury now as i type.

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