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Hitlers Offspring Possibly Able To Claim Royalties To "Mein Kampf".

  • 20-02-2012 7:43pm
    #1
    Biggins
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭


    Yes, you read the title right.
    A strange tale from The Telegraph - here: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/france/9088865/Hitler-had-son-with-French-teen.html

    Short version, young woman meets the future evil man and they have a child.
    Apparently there is some considerable evidence to back this story up!

    Originally the last officially known surviving member of the Hitler family tree died in New York some time ago, having promised all his life never to continue the Hitler bloodline.
    For all his efforts, it appears that the bloodline, if now further diluted, still continues.

    If the events are to believed and the article in The Telegraph, the still remaining offspring might try and claim back-payments for royalties to Hitlers infamous book!

    *shudders*

    Personally, I don't think I'd be announcing that I can claim rights to "Mein Kampf"
    ...Would you? Would it bother you?
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  • #2
    MitchKoobski
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,101 ✭✭✭MitchKoobski


    Jesus, is it even worth the money?




    ....wait how much money would he get?


  • #3
    actuallylike
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,450 ✭✭✭actuallylike


    He'll also inherit the gas bill that was left unpaid.


  • #4
    Chuck Stone
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,030 ✭✭✭✭Chuck Stone


    He'll have a personal struggle.


  • #5
    Morag
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,427 ✭✭✭Morag


    If it was me, I would and then donate the rights to a trust to use them for holocaust awareness education and to help fund jewish museums about that era.


  • #6
    Sky King
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭Sky King


    Hitler was a dick alright but if there's rights to be paid why shouldn't a family member be the one to get them?


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  • #7
    Eathrin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,076 ✭✭✭Eathrin


    Jean-Marie Loret, who died in 1985 aged 67, never met his father, but went on to fight Nazi forces during the Second World War

    Sounds a bit like Star Wars to me


  • #8
    Archeron
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,331 ✭✭✭Archeron


    The special effects in the next season of 'bottom' will be awesome.


  • #9
    actuallylike
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,450 ✭✭✭actuallylike


    Eathrin wrote: »
    Jean-Marie Loret, who died in 1985 aged 67, never met his father, but went on to fight Nazi forces during the Second World War
    Sounds a bit like Star Wars to me
    Jean-Marie, I am your Furher :pac:

    I suppose if someone is making money out of it then this chap has a right to it. As long as he doesn't reissue it amongst much fanfare to boost sales.


  • #10
    44leto
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,137 ✭✭✭44leto


    I don't go into the biblically "sins of the father" bollox, the son is his own self with his own choices.

    As for claiming the rights, no, I don't think anyone should be making money off that book.


  • #11
    dory
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 4,516 Mod ✭✭✭✭dory


    Says she had the kid in 1918 and gave him up for adoption in the 1930's.

    Can't imagine the scars of being told you're being given up for adoption in your TWENTIES!!


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  • #12
    Big Nasty
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,080 ✭✭✭✭Big Nasty


    Sky King wrote: »
    Hitler was a dick alright but if there's rights to be paid why shouldn't a family member be the one to get them?

    ^This, then this:
    Sharrow wrote: »
    If it was me, I would and then donate the rights to a trust to use them for holocaust awareness education and to help fund jewish museums about that era.


  • #13
    My name is URL
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,069 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    I think it's ludicrous that it's possible to claim royalties on somebody elses work in general.. doesn't matter if it's Hitler or Hasselhoff.


  • #14
    UglyBolloxFace
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,867 ✭✭✭UglyBolloxFace


    Sharrow wrote: »
    If it was me, I would and then donate the rights to a trust to use them for holocaust awareness education and to help fund jewish museums about that era.

    What about gay rights, gypsy rights, and countless others - would you not donate anything to them?


  • #15
    frozenfrozen
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,882 ✭✭✭frozenfrozen


    I would most definitely claim the rights! Who has the money at the moment? I'd get better use out of it. Might also help cancel out a lot of the shame of being a distant relative.


  • #16
    Biggins
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    I think I'd do similar to Sharrow.
    Take the book rights and donate the revenue to causes concerning the defending of ensuring freedoms and upholding of human rights, etc.

    As for the story of Hitlers possible son, whats the betting somebody somewhere is now rushing to create a film script!


  • #17
    later12
    Closed Accounts Posts: 11,299 ✭✭✭✭later12


    It's not an endorsement of your parents or your forefathers to enjoy the proceeds of that which they left behind them. I would have a personal difficulty with acting on a link to Hitler's manifesto, but I would not reject it as quickly as some people might do so in this thread. I'm not quite sure that I would reject such a link at all. I might well pursue it, being quite honest.

    Having said that, I'd imagine any claim is built on very shaky foundations, quite independently of whether this link to Hitler is verifiable.


  • #18
    44leto
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,137 ✭✭✭44leto


    Biggins wrote: »
    I think I'd do similar to Sharrow.
    Take the book rights and donate the revenue to causes concerning the defending of ensuring freedoms and upholding of human rights, etc.

    As for the story of Hitlers possible son, whats the betting somebody somewhere is now rushing to create a film script!

    That would be kind of ironic to say the least. A human rights group getting funds from one of the biggest human rights abusers in History.

    Poetic is what i say.


  • #19
    Celly Smunt
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,464 ✭✭✭Celly Smunt


    Sharrow wrote: »
    If it was me, I would and then donate the rights to a trust to use them for holocaust awareness education and to help fund jewish museums about that era.

    Not only Jews perished during Hitlers reign,why is always all about the Jews?


  • #20
    Celly Smunt
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,464 ✭✭✭Celly Smunt


    dory wrote: »
    Says she had the kid in 1918 and gave him up for adoption in the 1930's.

    Can't imagine the scars of being told you're being given up for adoption in your TWENTIES!!

    1930-1918=12


  • #21
    My name is URL
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,069 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    pmcmahon wrote: »
    Not only Jews perished during Hitlers reign,why is always all about the Jews?

    Don't be such an anti-semite =p


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  • #22
    TeddyTedson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,758 ✭✭✭✭TeddyTedson


    I thought we weren't allowed to bash celebs on boards?


  • #23
    theg81der
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,644 ✭✭✭theg81der


    Well like eh did it ever occur to you that if there is royalties to be had someone is currently benefiting from it :eek: (may it bring them no luck!) I really hope this guy does something good with that money but ......well he is related to hitler isn`t he, what do we really expect!:D


  • #24
    Cavehill Red
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,109 ✭✭✭Cavehill Red


    theg81der wrote: »
    Well like eh did it ever occur to you that if there is royalties to be had someone is currently benefiting from it :eek: (may it bring them no luck!) I really hope this guy does something good with that money but ......well he is related to hitler isn`t he, what do we really expect!:D

    Current rights holder is some region of Germany, I believe. The rights are worth millions. It still sells by the bucket load in all sorts of places.
    Poor oul Paddy Hitler missed out. The Irish have no luck, I tell ya.


  • #25
    RichieC
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,333 ✭✭✭RichieC


    Sharrow wrote: »
    If it was me, I would and then donate the rights to a trust to use them for holocaust awareness education and to help fund jewish museums about that era.

    I think were in the overkill stage of holocaust awareness tbf.


  • #26
    Cavehill Red
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,109 ✭✭✭Cavehill Red


    RichieC wrote: »
    I think were in the overkill stage of holocaust awareness tbf.

    It's not like there was a holocaust closer to home that most of us are not even aware of ourselves, is it?


  • #27
    Celly Smunt
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,464 ✭✭✭Celly Smunt


    Cavehill Red wrote: »
    It's not like there was a holocaust closer to home that most of us are not even aware of ourselves, is it?

    Here come the republicans...


  • #28
    Cavehill Red
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,109 ✭✭✭Cavehill Red


    pmcmahon wrote: »
    Here come the republicans...

    Actually, I'm not a republican. I am a student of history, however, and when sufficient food to feed twice the population is exported from a starving nation, that is not a famine. The events of the 1840s qualify as genocide both under the UN charter and by the definition provided by the man who coined the very word.
    But sure, why bother learning our own history, eh?


  • #29
    ejmaztec
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,111 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    Biggins wrote: »
    I think I'd do similar to Sharrow.
    Take the book rights and donate the revenue to causes concerning the defending of ensuring freedoms and upholding of human rights, etc.

    As for the story of Hitlers possible son, whats the betting somebody somewhere is now rushing to create a film script!

    Another re-vamp of The Boys From Brazil, without the clones.


  • #30
    HavingCrack
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,847 ✭✭✭HavingCrack


    Why would you even tell your son that his father was Hitler?

    Surely in that case not knowing who your father is would be a far better outcome.


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  • #31
    Liam Byrne
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,163 ✭✭✭✭Liam Byrne


    dory wrote: »
    Says she had the kid in 1918 and gave him up for adoption in the 1930's.

    Can't imagine the scars of being told you're being given up for adoption in your TWENTIES!!

    In the 30s he'd have been anything from 12 upwards, so I've no idea where you got "in your TWENTIES" from!


  • #32
    ejmaztec
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,111 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    HavingCrack wrote: »
    Why would you even tell your son that his father was Hitler?

    Surely in that case not knowing who your father is would be a far better outcome.

    To try and get him to stop walking towards Poland everytime he leaves the house.


  • #33
    LaFlammeRouge
    Closed Accounts Posts: 177 ✭✭LaFlammeRouge


    Cavehill Red wrote: »
    Actually, I'm not a republican. I am a student of history, however, and when sufficient food to feed twice the population is exported from a starving nation, that is not a famine. The events of the 1840s qualify as genocide both under the UN charter and by the definition provided by the man who coined the very word.
    But sure, why bother learning our own history, eh?

    :rolleyes:


  • #34
    ejmaztec
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,111 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    What's Hitler's son got to do with spuds? Did he work in a chipper or something?


  • #35
    44leto
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,137 ✭✭✭44leto


    Originally Posted by Cavehill Red viewpost.gif
    Actually, I'm not a republican. I am a student of history, however, and when sufficient food to feed twice the population is exported from a starving nation, that is not a famine. The events of the 1840s qualify as genocide both under the UN charter and by the definition provided by the man who coined the very word.
    But sure, why bother learning our own history, eh?

    Well if you are a student in history you would know who was exporting it. And you would know about the Laissez faire economic system operating in Britain at that time.


  • #36
    44leto
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,137 ✭✭✭44leto


    ejmaztec wrote: »
    What's Hitler's son got to do with spuds? Did he work in a chipper or something?

    Yeah in Clare along with Elvis.


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  • #37
    Cavehill Red
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,109 ✭✭✭Cavehill Red


    44leto wrote: »
    Well if you are a student in history you would know who was exporting it. And you would know about the Laissez faire economic system operating in Britain at that time.

    The Nazis, the Hutus, the Turks all had their own good reasons for conducting genocide too. But there is no mitigation for overseeing a holocaust in my book.


  • #38
    44leto
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,137 ✭✭✭44leto


    Cavehill Red wrote: »
    The Nazis, the Hutus, the Turks all had their own good reasons for conducting genocide too. But there is no mitigation for overseeing a holocaust in my book.

    But it was mainly Irish producers who exported the food. Britain didn't demand that they export the produce, the Irish producers wanted the cash.


  • #39
    TeddyTedson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,758 ✭✭✭✭TeddyTedson


    I hate the way Hitler is portrayed as an antichrist. He was not the most evil person in the world by a long shot. I think Thatcher was worse.
    It's not all black and white. Obviously he was no saint but not everything he did was evil. If Germany won WWII I imagine the world would be in a lot better condition today. He was basically a mad genius.


  • #40
    mikemac1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,395 ✭✭✭✭mikemac1


    Better dead then red


  • #41
    jam_mac_jam
    Registered Users Posts: 4,731 ✭✭✭jam_mac_jam


    TeddyTedson wrote: »
    I hate the way Hitler is portrayed as an antichrist. He was not the most evil person in the world by a long shot. I think Thatcher was worse.
    It's not all black and white. Obviously he was no saint but not everything he did was evil. If Germany won WWII I imagine the world would be in a lot better condition today. He was basically a mad genius.

    Either you are a troll or have never read a history book. Not a saint ah ha ha.
    Thatcher worse? ok...
    And he wasnt a genius, a genius would have won? maybe not have invaded the USSR etc. etc etc.


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  • #42
    actuallylike
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,450 ✭✭✭actuallylike


    TeddyTedson wrote: »
    I hate the way Hitler is portrayed as an antichrist. He was not the most evil person in the world by a long shot. I think Thatcher was worse.
    It's not all black and white. Obviously he was no saint but not everything he did was evil. If Germany won WWII I imagine the world would be in a lot better condition today. He was basically a mad genius.

    *grabs pop...
    *searches...
    WHERE'S MY FCUKING POPCORN?


  • #43
    My name is URL
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,069 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    44leto wrote: »
    Well if you are a student in history you would know who was exporting it. And you would know about the Laissez faire economic system operating in Britain at that time.

    It doesn't really matter who was doing the exporting. All that matters is that it gravely affected a massive amount of people, most of whom happened to be Irish Catholics. You'd need to have your head buried deep in the sand to refuse to accept that the British, along with the help of some Irish land-owners who were loyal to the crown, however passive that loyalty was, committed an act of genocide against the country and its population as a whole.

    Sure ffs; Cromwell was committing acts of genocide and ethnic cleansing here 200 years prior to that, and many will still refuse that it was either of those things, or try to justify it in some way!


  • #44
    TeddyTedson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,758 ✭✭✭✭TeddyTedson


    jam_mac_jam wrote: »
    Either you are a troll or have never read a history book. Not a saint ah ha ha.
    Thatcher worse? ok...
    And he wasnt a genius, a genius would have won? maybe not have invaded the USSR etc. etc etc.
    You're saying that he was the most evil person of all time?:rolleyes:
    GTFO.


  • #45
    bwatson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 630 ✭✭✭bwatson


    UglyBolloxFace wrote: »
    What about gay rights, gypsy rights, and countless others - would you not donate anything to them?

    Because Jewish charities would clearly be his choice.

    If you ever give money to a homeless charity, I wouldn't suddenly get in your face asking why you weren't so thoughtful when it came to those with cancer, victims of domestic abuse, those without drinking water, those with HIV etc.

    FFS there really is an anti-jewish vibe on this board.


  • #46
    pacquiao
    Closed Accounts Posts: 465 ✭✭pacquiao


    actuallylike wrote: »
    He'll also inherit the gas bill that was left unpaid.
    There was no gas.


  • #47
    HavingCrack
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,847 ✭✭✭HavingCrack


    TeddyTedson wrote: »
    I hate the way Hitler is portrayed as an antichrist. He was not the most evil person in the world by a long shot. I think Thatcher was worse.
    It's not all black and white. Obviously he was no saint but not everything he did was evil. If Germany won WWII I imagine the world would be in a lot better condition today. He was basically a mad genius.

    Honestly like, Thatcher was worse :confused: Seriously, Thatcher?

    You could make arguments for Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, the Japanese Imperial government, even Harry Truman etc.

    But Thatcher? Really?


  • #48
    jam_mac_jam
    Registered Users Posts: 4,731 ✭✭✭jam_mac_jam


    TeddyTedson wrote: »
    You're saying that he was the most evil person of all time?:rolleyes:
    GTFO.

    Did I say that? I dont see where I said that? That's one point you made that had some sense in it.


  • #49
    darced
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    This post has been deleted.


  • #50
    jam_mac_jam
    Registered Users Posts: 4,731 ✭✭✭jam_mac_jam


    darced wrote: »
    This post has been deleted.

    A genius who started a war on two fronts? who went against all advise of his generals and disregarded the brilliant advise he had in the German Army, yes indeed very intelligent.


  • #51
    TeddyTedson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,758 ✭✭✭✭TeddyTedson


    HavingCrack wrote: »
    Honestly like, Thatcher was worse :confused: Seriously, Thatcher?

    You could make arguments for Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, the Japanese Imperial government, even Harry Truman etc.

    But Thatcher? Really?
    The way she sunk that ship that was no threat what so ever shows just how evil she is. She certainly on a par with Hitler anyway you'd have to admit.
    A cold woman, I'll say no more.

    I don't see why people have a problem when someone says Hitler was not the most evil person in the world. To me there's so many more... but no, I can't have a different opinion or else I'm a troll.


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