Non shed Dogs

amiable · 13-05-2010 7:38pm #1

Can anyone recommend a good medium sized non shed dog that might be good with young kids?
Thanks in advance

ppink · 13-05-2010 7:54pm

Kerry Blue Terrier- we had one I grew up with and they are the best! ours was fab and reliable in every way, great recall v. eager to please, v happy and loved kids........and non shed!

have heard the lines now in irl are agressive but not sure if that is true or not....maybe some breeders could advise of this.

morganafay · 14-05-2010 7:34am

I've known a few very aggressive Kerry Blues. I'm sure they can be nice, my friend actually had a lovely (but very hyper) one, but I wouldn't really bet on them being good with kids. They're a bit big too, and my friend's one was really hyper and would knock an adult over.

Bichon Frise's are lovely, and brilliant with kids, and non shed. They're small, but not tiny, like the size of a Cavalier King Charles. They might be a bit silly looking if you don't want a poofy looking dog though, and need quite a bit of grooming.

Or you could go for a mix, like a Cavachon (Cavalier/Bichon), Cockapoo (Cocker/Poodle), anything with Poodle in it. They'd be non-shed too. Just if you do, try to make sure the breeder at least kinda knows what they're doing, like ask if the parents of the pups have been vet checked and to see their vaccination cards to show that. Cavachons are kinda small-medium and should have a great temperament. Some lines of Cocker Spaniels are aggressive though, and I heard from a breeder who used to breed Poodles that they were the most aggressive dog he ever had. But if the parents of the pups are really friendly then hopefully the pups will be good, and if they're brought up with kids hopefully they'd be fine.

wordchat · 14-05-2010 7:39am

amiable wrote: »

Can anyone recommend a good medium sized non shed dog that might be good with young kids?
Thanks in advance

Do they breed them where you are? A cross between Golden Retriever and Standard Poodle. Our dog is great with children and smart - house trained in first week. They do get big -- but it is all hair (good for allergies and nonshedding) - a proper trim and they are quite smaller in appearance.

Hope this helpful

amiable · 14-05-2010 7:39am

morganafay wrote: »

I've known a few very aggressive Kerry Blues. I'm sure they can be nice, my friend actually had a lovely (but very hyper) one, but I wouldn't really bet on them being good with kids. They're a bit big too, and my friend's one was really hyper and would knock an adult over.

Bichon Frise's are lovely, and brilliant with kids, and non shed. They're small, but not tiny, like the size of a Cavalier King Charles. They might be a bit silly looking if you don't want a poofy looking dog though, and need quite a bit of grooming.

Or you could go for a mix, like a Cavachon (Cavalier/Bichon), Cockapoo (Cocker/Poodle), anything with Poodle in it. They'd be non-shed too. Just if you do, try to make sure the breeder at least kinda knows what they're doing, like ask if the parents of the pups have been vet checked and to see their vaccination cards to show that. Cavachons are kinda small-medium and should have a great temperament. Some lines of Cocker Spaniels are aggressive though, and I heard from a breeder who used to breed Poodles that they were the most aggressive dog he ever had. But if the parents of the pups are really friendly then hopefully the pups will be good, and if they're brought up with kids hopefully they'd be fine.

Thanks alot but i'm really looking for something bigger than the dogs you've mentioned and wouldn't in a million years get anything mixed with a king charles. Again thanks anyway

amiable · 14-05-2010 7:41am

wordchat wrote: »

Do they breed them where you are? A cross between Golden Retriever and Standard Poodle. Our dog is great with children and smart - house trained in first week. They do get big -- but it is all hair (good for allergies and nonshedding) - a proper trim and they are quite smaller in appearance.

Hope this helpful

That sounds like what i'm looking for alright and yes it does help thanks

morganafay · 14-05-2010 7:56am

I've never met a goldendoodle but met a couple of labradoodles and they were lovely dogs. A bit of a handful and a lot of grooming, but I'm sure goldendoodles are lovely too.

paulacork · 14-05-2010 9:43am

amiable wrote: »

Can anyone recommend a good medium sized non shed dog that might be good with young kids?
Thanks in advance

I'm not sure if there's anything as a complete non-shed dog but Hungarian Vizslas require very little grooming and are great with kids and other animals. Make sure you research the breed that you decide on thoroughly if they're going to be around kids and best of luck!!!

ppink · 14-05-2010 9:59am

morganafay wrote: »

I've known a few very aggressive Kerry Blues. I'm sure they can be nice, my friend actually had a lovely (but very hyper) one, but I wouldn't really bet on them being good with kids. They're a bit big too, and my friend's one was really hyper and would knock an adult over.

i did hear this and to be honest at first i couldn't believe it! We had one and a relative had another that jumped into a river to pull her out after she fell in!
i found them very much family dogs in that ours anyway did not latch particularly to one person but was always looking out for everyone.

Size is all relative i suppose...ours could be picked up and was very light on his feet. also smart and very very easily trained.

maggie82 · 14-05-2010 10:13am

amiable wrote: »

Thanks alot but i'm really looking for something bigger than the dogs you've mentioned and wouldn't in a million years get anything mixed with a king charles. Again thanks anyway

Possibly the best idea I've heard in a long time:D
Eh, IME Labradoodles can be a bit tempermental but if you get a nice one theyre fab. I'd just be careful if you have kids around and give them LOTS of training because theyre very clever (poodle) and very strong (lab)!!

marlin vs · 14-05-2010 10:14am

Might be a bit small for you, but what about a Scottish terrier, they're a very friendly breed and don't shed.

VERYinterested · 14-05-2010 10:15am

Currently I have my second Kerry Blue. She's a female called Rosie. She, and nor did the other one shed one hair. She is the friendliest most loyal dog I have owned. We got her in September and she has settled in brilliantly. She is not aggressive, she is not hyper, she is brilliant, you should see how gentle she is with my niece Lily who is 6 months old!

Our previous Kerry was called Hazel, we had her when the kids were growing up. The kids all grown up now still talk about her to this day and compare the similar temperament to that of Rosie. I have seen aggressive Kerrys, usually with strangers and other dogs, usually males that were not socialised properly. There seems to be mythical bad press for the former national dog of Ireland which is not fair on the breed. Kerrys should rule the world!

Peter Banks · 14-05-2010 10:16am

There really is no such thing as a non-shedding dog ... it would be better described as a "low shedding" variety!

No-one has mentioned the Poodle which is comes in various sizes? (And a Goldendoodle whatever is a mix of Poodle as well).

amiable · 14-05-2010 10:18am

VERYinterested wrote: »

Currently I have my second Kerry Blue. She's a female called Rosie. She, and nor did the other one shed one hair. She is the friendliest most loyal dog I have owned. We got her in September and she has settled in brilliantly. She is not aggressive, she is not hyper, she is brilliant, you should see how gentle she is with my niece Lily who is 6 months old!

Our previous Kerry was called Hazel, we had her when the kids were growing up. The kids all grown up now still talk about her to this day and compare the similar temperament to that of Rosie. I have seen aggressive Kerrys, usually with strangers and other dogs, usually males that were not socialised properly. There seems to be mythical bad press for the former national dog of Ireland which is not fair on the breed. Kerrys should rule the world!

I'm sorry but i'm really not interested in a Kerry Blue no matter if they are aggressive or friendly... Thanks everyone anyway

funkyjebus · 14-05-2010 11:11am

i have an irish soft coated wheaten terrier. couldnt recommend it more. non shedding, much like the kerry blue. coat takes some work, but worth it for a coat like it has.

very gentle, friendly and intelligent.

morganafay · 14-05-2010 11:19am

ppink wrote: »

i did hear this and to be honest at first i couldn't believe it! We had one and a relative had another that jumped into a river to pull her out after she fell in!
i found them very much family dogs in that ours anyway did not latch particularly to one person but was always looking out for everyone.

Size is all relative i suppose...ours could be picked up and was very light on his feet. also smart and very very easily trained.

I guess it's the same with most dogs, if the owner is bad then the dog could be aggressive. One we had in for grooming and he was completely matted and had to be completely shaved, so I don't blame him for being aggressive, he was a scary dog though. And another is my friend's dog, but he is a guard dog, so he's aggressive, not with the family but with strangers. Or if my friend tries to groom him, he'll try to bite her.

I'd call them medium-large, maybe, but not very big.

ppink · 14-05-2010 12:12pm

Perhaps OP should list the dogs you are not interested in so people can be of more help to you.

wordchat · 14-05-2010 5:31pm

Labradoodle's are nice, too, but more frisky than Goldens. Another thought - I am dog sitting a Westie. He is very cute and fluffy, and endlessly curious about everything I do. Unfortunately, he does shed a bit. My concern about getting a dog was allergies - both daughters allergic to fur. These dogs have hair instead.

doggiewalker00 · 14-05-2010 5:47pm

is the non shed bit that essential.any dogs with hair will shed
cavs really are the perfect family house dog,although they do require quite alot of brushing to keep thier coat from matting and looking good.

other dogs that are typically good with kids
Maltese
Lhasa opso
shih tzu

morganafay · 14-05-2010 7:14pm

amiable wrote: »

Thanks alot but i'm really looking for something bigger than the dogs you've mentioned and wouldn't in a million years get anything mixed with a king charles. Again thanks anyway

Oh sorry, for some reason I read it as "small-medium" instead of "medium". And I kinda count medium as smaller than some people do

With King Charleses, is it their health problems that you're worried about? Or do you just not like them? I'm just saying because more people seem to know about their health problems, but a lot of breeds have just as many problems so it's important to research the breed well. And going to a good breeder will make it much less likely that the dog will have problems. I have three King Charleses and they're all pretty old but completely healthy. I know you don't want one, just using it as an example that they're not all unhealthy if you go to a good breeder.

doggiewalker00 · 15-05-2010 11:11am

how can you not like a cav
Cavalier%20King%20Charles%20Spaniel.jpg

how can you say no to a face like that.

doggiewalker00 · 15-05-2010 11:16am

Lhasa opso

Maltesse

Shih tzu

maggie82 · 15-05-2010 11:21am

doggiewalker00 wrote: »

Lhasa opso

Maltesse

Shih tzu

Just because you like these small breeds does not mean they are everyones cup of tea, OP said she was looking for a medium sized dog.

kylith · 15-05-2010 11:36am

There's always the Irish Water Spaniel. A beautiful, very low shedding, chocolate brown coat, not overly large, and any I've met have been very placid (one guy got his tail caught in his door and never even whined about it).

http://www.dogbreedinfo.com/irishwaterspaniel.htm

amiable · 15-05-2010 3:11pm

doggiewalker00 wrote: »

how can you not like a cav

how can you say no to a face like that.

Because its a fact that they are the most stupid dog and from my experience never stop yapping
Also they often have a condition where their brain doesn't fit their skull which means they can be in constant pain

doggiewalker00 · 15-05-2010 3:25pm

The most stupid dog

all breeds have some form of health problems due to inbreeding.buy from a proper breeder and do your reseach and you wont have a problem.
I was only trying to give you a list of dogs that are good with children.and easy to handle.small dogs make perfect family dogs.

if you want to get a dog like a lab,their ,very prone to bloat,they can be very boisterous and destructive as puppies,require quite alot of excercise compared to a smaller dog

.sorry for upsetting you then

,I was just trying to help

amiable · 15-05-2010 6:31pm

doggiewalker00 wrote: »

The most stupid dog all breeds have some form of health problems due to inbreeding.buy from a proper breeder and do your reseach and you wont have a problem.
I was only trying to give you a list of dogs that are good with children.and easy to handle.small dogs make perfect family dogs.

if you want to get a dog like a lab,their ,very prone to bloat,they can be very boisterous and destructive as puppies,require quite alot of excercise compared to a smaller dog

.sorry for upsetting you then ,I was just trying to help

you didnt upset me
you asked me a question and i gave you an answer.
We dont want a small dog
dont want a lab either
want a medium sized dog

amiable · 15-05-2010 6:34pm

morganafay wrote: »

Oh sorry, for some reason I read it as "small-medium" instead of "medium". And I kinda count medium as smaller than some people do

With King Charleses, is it their health problems that you're worried about? Or do you just not like them? I'm just saying because more people seem to know about their health problems, but a lot of breeds have just as many problems so it's important to research the breed well. And going to a good breeder will make it much less likely that the dog will have problems. I have three King Charleses and they're all pretty old but completely healthy. I know you don't want one, just using it as an example that they're not all unhealthy if you go to a good breeder.

to be honest i think they are ugly and generally yappy
thanks for the input though

padi89 · 15-05-2010 6:40pm

paulacork wrote: »

I'm not sure if there's anything as a complete non-shed dog but Hungarian Vizslas require very little grooming and are great with kids and other animals. Make sure you research the breed that you decide on thoroughly if they're going to be around kids and best of luck!!!

Excellent suggestion, they are a beautiful dog, i would absolutely love one

This is what i would go for OP, should be a few videos on youtube.

morganafay · 15-05-2010 7:33pm

amiable wrote: »

to be honest i think they are ugly and generally yappy
thanks for the input though

Oh yeah, fair enough if you don't like them. I was just saying that you have to be careful with every breed to get them from a good breeder, because a lot of breeds have genetic health problems unfortunately. Some of them are just not that well known.

I don't mind if you don't like cavs, but I agree with doggiewalker that they're great dogs. I don't find them yappy or stupid (they're about average intelligence on the list of intelligent dogs). If you don't like them though, then obviously you don't want one.

Xiney · 16-05-2010 3:01pm

there aren't many low shed dogs.

most are small.

those that are medium are generally some kind of hybrid cross with poodle.

I wouldn't get a poodle with kids in a million years.

I think maybe the dog you want doesn't exist.

amiable · 16-05-2010 3:52pm

Xiney wrote: »

there aren't many low shed dogs.

most are small.

those that are medium are generally some kind of hybrid cross with poodle.

I wouldn't get a poodle with kids in a million years.

I think maybe the dog you want doesn't exist.

well we must bow to the moderator

kylith · 16-05-2010 4:48pm

Here's a list of breeds suitable for allergy sufferers, from dogbreedinfo.com
http://dogbreedinfo.com/allergy.htm

Some are lower shedding than others, mind.

Xiney · 16-05-2010 5:11pm

amiable wrote: »

well we must bow to the moderator

I am not a moderator of the animals and pets forum. The forums I moderate are listed in the same box as my avatar to the left of this post. On this forum, I am naught but a regular poster same as yourself.

I will say though, your attitude as far as regular posters go, leaves much to be desired.

star-pants · 16-05-2010 6:13pm

amiable wrote: »

well we must bow to the moderator

There's no need to be smart, people are only trying to help and you seem to be looking for a very very specific dog which makes it harder for people to suggest breeds.

amiable · 16-05-2010 6:19pm

star-pants wrote: »

There's no need to be smart, people are only trying to help and you seem to be looking for a very very specific dog which makes it harder for people to suggest breeds.

on the contrary i thought the other poster was being smart but sure you'll stick together
and some people were being very unhelpful suggesting small dogs when i clearly said i'm looking for a medium sized dog

star-pants · 16-05-2010 6:23pm

amiable wrote: »

on the contrary i thought the other poster was being smart but sure you'll stick together
and some people were being very unhelpful suggesting small dogs when i clearly said i'm looking for a medium sized dog

Well if you have an issue with a post use the report post function and we'll have a look at it. As for 'sticking together' anyone who's not mod of API/AW is seen the same as all other posters here. We're all subject to the rules.

Xiney wasn't really being smart I didn't think - just explained that there are very few low shed dogs and most of them are small, and that a poodle might not be the best around children, thus the dog you've an idea of in your head may not be there in reality, that you might have to compromise on some part.

I do agree some posters were being unhelpful pushing Cavs and other very small breeds when you stated medium.

amiable · 16-05-2010 6:35pm

Xiney wrote: »

I am not a moderator of the animals and pets forum. The forums I moderate are listed in the same box as my avatar to the left of this post. On this forum, I am naught but a regular poster same as yourself.

I will say though, your attitude as far as regular posters go, leaves much to be desired.

well is this not all about opinions?
i gave my opinion
i wasn't referring to what you moderate
see just cos you disagree with me i've an attitude
i disagree

morganafay · 16-05-2010 6:36pm

Well I suggested small (and medium) sized dogs, but I already said that I misread your post. I know other people did too, but everyone was just trying to help you, otherwise they wouldn't have bothered posting.

amiable · 16-05-2010 6:36pm

star-pants wrote: »

Well if you have an issue with a post use the report post function and we'll have a look at it. As for 'sticking together' anyone who's not mod of API/AW is seen the same as all other posters here. We're all subject to the rules.

Xiney wasn't really being smart I didn't think - just explained that there are very few low shed dogs and most of them are small, and that a poodle might not be the best around children, thus the dog you've an idea of in your head may not be there in reality, that you might have to compromise on some part.

I do agree some posters were being unhelpful pushing Cavs and other very small breeds when you stated medium.

I don't have an issue
I'm an adult and think i can resolve my problems myself
if i don't want to post something i won't
i presume nobody is obliged to

star-pants · 16-05-2010 6:36pm

amiable we've spoken about the posters so can we leave it there please? And can we all get back on topic thank you

amiable · 16-05-2010 6:40pm

star-pants wrote: »

amiable we've spoken about the posters so can we leave it there please? And can we all get back on topic thank you

as you wish sir/madam

Our man in Havana · 16-05-2010 6:41pm

Keep it up and you can go elsewhere.

amiable · 16-05-2010 6:43pm

Haddockman wrote: »

Keep it up and you can go elsewhere.

???????

threat?

Hellrazer · 16-05-2010 7:09pm

amiable wrote: »

???????

threat?

No its not a threat.Youve continually questioned moderator decisions on this thread.Thats called "back seat modding" and carries an automatic one week ban.Now final warning--If you keep this up I will issue a one week ban.

Now back on topic please.

Brian? · 17-05-2010 4:36pm

funkyjebus wrote: »

i have an irish soft coated wheaten terrier. couldnt recommend it more. non shedding, much like the kerry blue. coat takes some work, but worth it for a coat like it has.

very gentle, friendly and intelligent.

I wholeheartedly agree. I have a male wheaten myself for the last 6 years, great dog.

Very friendly and intelligent, great with the kids around our estate.

amiable · 17-05-2010 4:50pm

briankeating wrote: »

I wholeheartedly agree. I have a male wheaten myself for the last 6 years, great dog.

Very friendly and intelligent, great with the kids around our estate.

Sounds perfect and looks gorgeous too. Just had a look online.
Anyone know anywhere i might get one?

scudzilla · 17-05-2010 8:56pm

amiable wrote: »

Sounds perfect and looks gorgeous too. Just had a look online.
Anyone know anywhere i might get one?

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=wheaten+dog+for+sale+ireland

sure i'll be accused of being smart now :rolleyes::rolleyes:

Brian? · 17-05-2010 9:39pm

amiable wrote: »

Sounds perfect and looks gorgeous too. Just had a look online.
Anyone know anywhere i might get one?

http://www.irishscwt.net/

Which for some reason doesn't show up easily on google.

sassychick · 18-05-2010 6:24pm

Hi would you consider a boxer ??They dont shed alot and make great family pets...absolutly brilliant with kids...and adorable:D:D:D

Jennyfer · 18-05-2010 7:07pm

sassychick wrote: »

Hi would you consider a boxer ??They dont shed alot and make great family pets...absolutly brilliant with kids...and adorable:D:D:D

I was just gonna suggest the same, people will say "ah theyre too boisterous with kids" but they are remarkably good at adjusting to a level of play that will suit individual children. I have a boxer and 3 kids under 10 and she behaves differently with each of them. Shes amazing with them. And not just her, when they were all younger, say all under 7 we had a male boxer, twice the size of one we have now and he was just as good with them. Absolute sweethearts. They dont shed much, and although some males can be quite large, females would be medium sized.

I cant recommend enough, I would never have any other breed

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