Rangers FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2012/2013

Jelle1880 · 23-06-2011 2:17am

Or maybe he's not willing to pay over the top for guys like Goodwillie

He had the money for Hemed, but Hemed decided he liked Spain more, which makes sense.
Cuellar, I don't even know why he's in there, no bid has been made.

Jelle1880 · 23-06-2011 8:05am

McLeish has said he is willing to let Cuellar come back to Ibrox for +-3 million.
With Whitaker's agent saying that he doesn't want to stay we can get rid of him for a bit of money and then get Cuellar back, would be a great deal.

SomethingElse · 23-06-2011 9:40am

Jelle1880 wrote: »

McLeish has said he is willing to let Cuellar come back to Ibrox for +-3 million.
With Whitaker's agent saying that he doesn't want to stay we can get rid of him for a bit of money and then get Cuellar back, would be a great deal.

Whitaker leaving would be a massive PR failure imo.

Broxi_Bear_Eire · 23-06-2011 9:42am

SomethingElse wrote: »

Whitaker leaving would be a massive PR failure imo.

Why

SomethingElse · 23-06-2011 10:01am

Broxi_Bear_Eire wrote: »

Why

http://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/scotsol/homepage/sport/spl/3571796/Ill-pay-you-stay.html#ixzz1LtwIeEGf

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,12876_6992449,00.html

They shouldn't have emphasised so much that they want to hold on to the lad. You could argue that they were trying to push up the price but I think they risk swaying the fans against them.

Broxi_Bear_Eire · 23-06-2011 10:04am

SomethingElse wrote: »

http://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/scotsol/homepage/sport/spl/3571796/Ill-pay-you-stay.html#ixzz1LtwIeEGf

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,12876_6992449,00.html

Doesn't mean anything if he wants to go fine he will be the loser as many fans will say he forgets all the times we have stood by him when his football has been garbage

Broxi_Bear_Eire · 23-06-2011 5:04pm

And we are the big bad bigots

http://www.donegaldaily.com/2011/06/23/shock-for-hoops-fans-as-gaa-star-signs-for-rangers/

AN upcoming GAA star from Co Derry has confirmed that he has signed for Rangers.

Catholic Aaron McGregor, 17, is a regular with Limavady Wolfhounds GAA club and has just signed a two-year professional contract.

And it seems Rangers are going after more players from Ireland with a GAA background.

For Aaron won’t be the only player with a GAA background in the Rangers reserve and Under-19 squads he’ll initially be joining.

“Rangers is full of lads who have played Gaelic: there are five in the squad that Aaron’s joining, three Dublin fellas and one from Omagh, and three or four of the Rangers scouts had Celtic tattoos on them,” said his dad Michael.

“At this level it’s all about professionalism.

“The reaction locally has been brilliant, from all sides of the community. We have had so many phone calls wishing him well.

“We had a going away party for Aaron at the weekend and the turnout was mixed right down the middle. Everybody is very proud of him,” he said.

Said Aaron: "

“I was delighted when Rangers made an approach, it’s an opportunity to make a career as a full-time professional footballer,” he said.

“When you see Rangers’ facilities and their coaches, it’s a fantastic set-up. I’d been on trial with a few other teams — Bradford, Burnley and Aberdeen — but the Rangers set-up was the best.

“Bradford actually put a deal on the table, they offered a contract straight away. I was over three times with Burnley and they were in the process of bringing me over again when Rangers moved in between times. They moved very quickly once they had made their decision.”

So the prospect of a GAA-playing Co Derry man scoring against Celtic for Rangers has moved a step closer.

Madam · 23-06-2011 7:05pm

So the prospect of a GAA-playing Co Derry man scoring against Celtic for Rangers has moved a step closer.[/QUOTE]

If he ever gets to play for the 'big' team that is - has any other Irish player been brought forward to play after the two year apprenticeship? Is this just not a cloak for Rangers to say they are not a sectarian club?:(

Broxi_Bear_Eire · 23-06-2011 8:23pm

Madam wrote: »

So the prospect of a GAA-playing Co Derry man scoring against Celtic for Rangers has moved a step closer.

If he ever gets to play for the 'big' team that is - has any other Irish player been brought forward to play after the two year apprenticeship? Is this just not a cloak for Rangers to say they are not a sectarian club?:([/QUOTE]

No its not and they have only started scouting here because of the abuse youngsters were getting from their own communities and I know this from at least one young boy personally

And Rangers as a club are not sectarian and haven't been for many years
Yes we have an element within our support that we could do without but so do every other club including Celtic

Jelle1880 · 23-06-2011 9:03pm

Madam wrote: »

So the prospect of a GAA-playing Co Derry man scoring against Celtic for Rangers has moved a step closer.

If he ever gets to play for the 'big' team that is - has any other Irish player been brought forward to play after the two year apprenticeship? Is this just not a cloak for Rangers to say they are not a sectarian club?:([/QUOTE]

The young goalie is about to break into the U19 at Rangers.

bobbysands81 · 24-06-2011 8:28am

Madam wrote: »

So the prospect of a GAA-playing Co Derry man scoring against Celtic for Rangers has moved a step closer.

If he ever gets to play for the 'big' team that is - has any other Irish player been brought forward to play after the two year apprenticeship? Is this just not a cloak for Rangers to say they are not a sectarian club?:([/QUOTE]

A proper scouting regime in Ireland could save Rangers a fortune and increase their PR no end.

If RFC were serious about the bigotry/anti-Irish nonsense that is a cancer on their club then there are a myriad of things they could do... but they seem to have no interest in stopping it.

The recent debacle with the authorities in Europe has always been a case of "We can't sing those songs because we'll face UEFA sanctions", not "We can't sing those songe because they're WRONG!"

Jelle1880 · 24-06-2011 9:39am

Increase PR ?
Bollocks, people who keep on about the whole 'No Irish players' thing will always find a way to blast Rangers.

First we didn't sign Catholics, that was proven wrong.
Then we didn't sign the right Catholics (Italian, Spanish,...), that was wrong too.
Then we didn't sign Irish Catholics, which we did.

What next, we never signed an Irishman from the Falls Road ?

We have signed more Irish players than we did Bosnians, Canadians, Chileans, Belgians, Croatians, Czechs, Egyptians, Finish, Germans, Greeks, Israeli's,...

Broxi_Bear_Eire · 24-06-2011 9:54am

bobbysands81 wrote: »

If he ever gets to play for the 'big' team that is - has any other Irish player been brought forward to play after the two year apprenticeship? Is this just not a cloak for Rangers to say they are not a sectarian club?:(

A proper scouting regime in Ireland could save Rangers a fortune and increase their PR no end.

If RFC were serious about the bigotry/anti-Irish nonsense that is a cancer on their club then there are a myriad of things they could do... but they seem to have no interest in stopping it.

The recent debacle with the authorities in Europe has always been a case of "We can't sing those songs because we'll face UEFA sanctions", not "We can't sing those songe because they're WRONG!"[/QUOTE]

Actually Bobby you will find most people are saying these songs deserve to be left in the past pity Celtic fans can't don't seem to feel the same about there songs

SomethingElse · 24-06-2011 1:32pm

Broxi_Bear_Eire wrote: »

No its not and they have only started scouting here because of the abuse youngsters were getting from their own communities and I know this from at least one young boy personally

Only started scouting here, or only started scouting for Catholic players here?

Broxi_Bear_Eire · 24-06-2011 2:28pm

SomethingElse wrote: »

Only started scouting here, or only started scouting for Catholic players here?

Only started scouting here

If you know anything about Rangers you will know the scouting system at all levels was torn apart and we were left with a system that was worse than useless
Really this whole not scouting for RC players has been over and done with for years its time people got used to the idea everyone that still thinks that way will have to find another stick to hit us with

bobbysands81 · 24-06-2011 2:56pm

It's amazing that they're really only scouting a market so close to them now, as I said it's good PR and could potentially save them a fortune.

So it's only a money making thing for them, if they were serious about tackling anti-Irishness they could... but they choose not to.

bobbysands81 · 24-06-2011 2:59pm

Jelle1880 wrote: »

Increase PR ?
Bollocks, people who keep on about the whole 'No Irish players' thing will always find a way to blast Rangers.

First we didn't sign Catholics, that was proven wrong.
Then we didn't sign the right Catholics (Italian, Spanish,...), that was wrong too.
Then we didn't sign Irish Catholics, which we did.

What next, we never signed an Irishman from the Falls Road ?

We have signed more Irish players than we did Bosnians, Canadians, Chileans, Belgians, Croatians, Czechs, Egyptians, Finish, Germans, Greeks, Israeli's,...

In the last 60 years how many Irish fellas have played for RFC?

Broxi_Bear_Eire · 24-06-2011 3:28pm

bobbysands81 wrote: »

In the last 60 years how many Irish fellas have played for RFC?

Bobby Bobby Bobby not again

You talk about moving on but the record seems to be stuck at this point
Anyway lots of Irish Fellas have played for us maybe not the sort you want though
It seems we are dammed if we do something positive and dammed if we don't

Dempsey · 24-06-2011 3:44pm

Ye sign a GAA player and think yer the epitome of social inclusion & tolerance, LOL

Broxi_Bear_Eire · 24-06-2011 3:48pm

Dempsey wrote: »

Ye sign a GAA player and think yer the epitome of social inclusion & tolerance, LOL

Where has that been said

Jelle1880 · 24-06-2011 3:48pm

Seems like a broken record.

Dempsey · 24-06-2011 3:56pm

Broxi_Bear_Eire wrote: »

Where has that been said

Jelle1880 wrote: »

Increase PR ?
Bollocks, people who keep on about the whole 'No Irish players' thing will always find a way to blast Rangers.

First we didn't sign Catholics, that was proven wrong.
Then we didn't sign the right Catholics (Italian, Spanish,...), that was wrong too.
Then we didn't sign Irish Catholics, which we did.

What next, we never signed an Irishman from the Falls Road ?

We have signed more Irish players than we did Bosnians, Canadians, Chileans, Belgians, Croatians, Czechs, Egyptians, Finish, Germans, Greeks, Israeli's,...

Broxi_Bear_Eire wrote: »

Bobby Bobby Bobby not again
You talk about moving on but the record seems to be stuck at this point
Anyway lots of Irish Fellas have played for us maybe not the sort you want though
It seems we are dammed if we do something positive and dammed if we don't

This waffle, sounds like ye want to wear blinkers or forget the past.

The big hullabaloo about this player is that he is gaa player signing for Rangers and the reaction of those around the player and those at your club, not a sentence about this kids ability or potential.

nordydan · 24-06-2011 4:10pm

Dempsey wrote: »

Ye sign a GAA player and think yer the epitome of social inclusion & tolerance, LOL

Agree with the above. That being said its a small, and welcome, step down on a long journey to maturity for this club.

Jelle1880 · 24-06-2011 4:28pm

Well, it's not that clear in my post but yes, I do agree that Rangers accepts everyone.

Remind me: How many Northern Irish Protestants have Celtic signed ?
I won't bother with certain periods, you can just go back in the entire club history.
Little hint: You don't need an entire hand to count them on.

Dempsey · 24-06-2011 4:49pm

Jelle1880 wrote: »

Well, it's not that clear in my post but yes, I do agree that Rangers accepts everyone.

Remind me: How many Northern Irish Protestants have Celtic signed ?
I won't bother with certain periods, you can just go back in the entire club history.
Little hint: You don't need an entire hand to count them on.

To quote a protestant manager of Celtic

"Jock, if there were two players, one Catholic and one Protestant. Who would you sign?"
"The Protestant"
"Why?"
"Because I know that Rangers would never sign the Catholic"

You really going to convince yourself that Celtic didnt try to sign Northern Irish Protestants or discriminate players based on religion and background?

Broxi_Bear_Eire · 24-06-2011 5:20pm

Dempsey wrote: »

This waffle, sounds like ye want to wear blinkers or forget the past.

The big hullabaloo about this player is that he is gaa player signing for Rangers and the reaction of those around the player and those at your club, not a sentence about this kids ability or potential.

Se the point you make is invalid as the story or rather the reporting of it was nothing to do with Rangers I took it from a Donegal web paper
No one is saying we should forget the past in fact its important we remember it so the same mistakes are never made again.
But whereas we are moving on or at least trying to people like yourself still seem to want to revel in the past as far as Rangers are concerned is it because you know you are slowly loosing another stick to beat us with

Broxi_Bear_Eire · 24-06-2011 5:22pm

nordydan wrote: »

Agree with the above. That being said its a small, and welcome, step down on a long journey to maturity for this club.

Do you actually know anything about the club or are you just listening to other peoples waffle ??

Broxi_Bear_Eire · 24-06-2011 5:23pm

Dempsey wrote: »

To quote a protestant manager of Celtic

"Jock, if there were two players, one Catholic and one Protestant. Who would you sign?"
"The Protestant"
"Why?"
"Because I know that Rangers would never sign the Catholic"

You really going to convince yourself that Celtic didnt try to sign Northern Irish Protestants or discriminate players based on religion and background?

Jeez were you even born when the man said this that has been redundant for many years

Yeah the same manager that won the European cup for you and your great club offered him a job as a glorified salesman

Dempsey · 24-06-2011 5:27pm

Broxi_Bear_Eire wrote: »

Se the point you make is invalid as the story or rather the reporting of it was nothing to do with Rangers I took it from a Donegal web paper
No one is saying we should forget the past in fact its important we remember it so the same mistakes are never made again.
But whereas we are moving on or at least trying to people like yourself still seem to want to revel in the past as far as Rangers are concerned is it because you know you are slowly loosing another stick to beat us with

The source of the article is irrelevant to my point.

Broxi_Bear_Eire · 24-06-2011 7:54pm

Dempsey wrote: »

The source of the article is irrelevant to my point.

I really give up how can Rangers get the blame the story came from the boys community but never mind eh as long as you believe its something else to have a dig at the club about

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