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Does this song not blow your mind?? (Fireflight)

  • 20-02-2012 5:08pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 29




    Cause it blows mine.

    Every so often there's this song that just totally takes this music to the next level IMO.

    I've listened to fireflight on and off for a while.
    Unbreakable was really good.

    But this song is ahead of it's time.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,679 ✭✭✭hidinginthebush


    This song blows my mind not


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,944 ✭✭✭✭Links234


    I don't know what's more offensive, the obvious shill, or the bland boring music?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29 Spagetti Hair


    Links234 wrote: »
    I don't know what's more offensive, the obvious shill, or the bland boring music?

    lolwut?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,944 ✭✭✭✭Links234


    lolwut?

    "Hey guys, check out this band that I'm totally not affiliated with in any way, and didn't sign up here just to promote, I'm just a genuine fan really, and this totally takes bland to a new level of beige IMO!!!"

    :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29 Spagetti Hair


    Oh I get it.

    You think that by my being based in Europe and having absolutely nothing to do with the music industry, I'm somehow endeavoring to promote a US based music group by posting on a small Irish website?

    Well, what can I say?

    You got me!

    I am so embarrassed...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,798 ✭✭✭✭DrumSteve


    I wouldn't say small Irish Website... It's pretty much the largest of it's type in the country.


    Re: the video. Nothing that hasn't been heard before tbh, bit generic but if that's whats in then so be it.

    Btw if you want ahead of it's time:



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29 Spagetti Hair


    Woah, what is that **** assaulting my eardrums.

    I'll take generic any day ahead of that.

    Yeah, typically I'm not a big rock music fan.
    When I was younger I used to play guitar so I'd listen to megadeth and metallica and stuff, but that's a fair few years ago now.

    But bands like Fireflight and Flyleaf are decent enough as far as that genre goes.

    I like the fast beat up tempo with a good melody.

    That song just did it for me.
    I don't think Fireflight are that popular in Ireland though...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29 Spagetti Hair


    PS - I understand how bands like Tool etc appeal to minority audiences.

    But just not my thing, is my point.

    Although to give them their due, every so often them type do make a song or two that's mainstream acceptable.
    I guess they are pretty influential in their own right; so my hat comes off in that sense :confused:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,944 ✭✭✭✭Links234


    But bands like Fireflight and Flyleaf are decent enough as far as that genre goes.

    Big into your christian rock bands, are you?

    maybe I was wrong, maybe you're not a shill, maybe you're here to proselytize?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,798 ✭✭✭✭DrumSteve


    All subjective really, but different horses for different courses I suppose.

    One is art and well, one ain't.

    As an aside the melody line (and just about everything else) is far superior in Parabola, than that generic tripe.

    Then again, that sort of post grunge/MOR rock can be good when done well. Unfortunately, in the above case, it wasn't.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29 Spagetti Hair


    Links234 wrote: »
    Big into your christian rock bands, are you?

    maybe I was wrong, maybe you're not a shill, maybe you're here to proselytize?

    Yeah.

    You got me again.

    I guess I've been exposed now.

    This is terrible...


    *ashamedly goes back to soap boxing and bible thumping*


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,944 ✭✭✭✭Links234




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,560 ✭✭✭✭Kess73


    The thread title nails it for me. The song does not blow my mind.

    But then again it should not matter a damn to the OP what anyone else thinks about the song if the song blows the OP's mind.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29 Spagetti Hair


    Okay then.

    Expound, if you will, on what you do and don't like as regards the composition.

    What I've heard so far is, "bland, generic, and most importantly - mainstream, which instantly makes it a no-go as far as my unique tastes are concerned".

    What I like about it is, the in-your-face piercing sound of the vocals which complement perfectly the progressive melody of the instruments.
    I like watching the flair, heart and charisma the singer has as she commands the vocal pitches, which are also reflected in the melodic notes themselves.

    In juxtaposition to the Tool song that was posted, which is down tone and morbid by intent, this song aims to stir an emotive, even an adrenal fueled feeling in the listener.
    In every-day lingo; it'd make you want to get up out of your chair.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29 Spagetti Hair


    As I said, not an all out rock music fan, but I appreciate a good song when I hear it.

    Despite being a genre far removed, I'd have to class this song along with one of my other favorite "get up and go" numbers.



    I'm sure the differences are apparent, but the similarities should be somewhat also, as regards my description for affinity of the OP piece.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,944 ✭✭✭✭Links234




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,944 ✭✭✭✭Links234


    What I like about it is, the in-your-face piercing sound of the vocals which complement perfectly the progressive melody of the instruments.
    I like watching the flair, heart and charisma the singer has as she commands the vocal pitches, which are also reflected in the melodic notes themselves.

    Your post reads like a marketing blurb... it couldn't be any less in-your-face if it tried.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29 Spagetti Hair


    Links234 wrote: »
    Your post reads like a marketing blurb... it couldn't be any less in-your-face if it tried.

    Ramstein?

    I think what would call "in your face", is more what I would define as "up your ass".

    God damn that guys voice grates on me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,749 ✭✭✭tony 2 tone


    Okay then.

    Expound, if you will, on what you do and don't like as regards the composition.

    What I've heard so far is, "bland, generic, and most importantly - mainstream, which instantly makes it a no-go as far as my unique tastes are concerned".
    No-one said any thing about disliking the song in the OP because it was "mainstream", personally it does nothing for me, partly because it is a bit tired and unoriginal.
    Is mainstream determined by popularity? I'd say more people would know of Tool and Ramstein than Fireflight.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,944 ✭✭✭✭Links234


    Ah! tony 2 tone, we're avatar twins! :eek:

    we'll confuse people if we post after each other


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  • Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 23,228 Mod ✭✭✭✭GLaDOS


    Thought it was a decent song myself *shrugs*. Nothing amazing though.

    Cake, and grief counseling, will be available at the conclusion of the test



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,798 ✭✭✭✭DrumSteve


    Okay then.

    Expound, if you will, on what you do and don't like as regards the composition.

    What I've heard so far is, "bland, generic, and most importantly - mainstream, which instantly makes it a no-go as far as my unique tastes are concerned".

    What I like about it is, the in-your-face piercing sound of the vocals which complement perfectly the progressive melody of the instruments.
    I like watching the flair, heart and charisma the singer has as she commands the vocal pitches, which are also reflected in the melodic notes themselves.

    In juxtaposition to the Tool song that was posted, which is down tone and morbid by intent, this song aims to stir an emotive, even an adrenal fueled feeling in the listener.
    In every-day lingo; it'd make you want to get up out of your chair.

    If you listen to what parabola is actually about you would find its not morbid at all.

    And Rammstein ****in rule.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,054 ✭✭✭D.Q


    Okay then.


    In every-day lingo; it'd make you want to get up out of your chair.

    to turn off the fucking music.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29 Spagetti Hair


    Damn, just can't stop listening to it.

    And unlike songs that when you listen to them they get old, this just seems to get better and better.

    ...again and again.

    And again and again and again.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29 Spagetti Hair


    As regards the mainstream comment:

    If you hear/see a man growling/roaring into a microphone, wearing only skin tight leather pants, has a skin head, and looks like he's into self harm by the shape his skin is in, you can pretty much take it that he's not trying to appeal to the mainstream.

    When you see a charismatic female singing beautifully with a strong melodic backing...

    ...well.
    I think we all know where I'm going here.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,061 ✭✭✭keith16


    As regards the mainstream comment:

    If you hear/see a man growling/roaring into a microphone, wearing only skin tight leather pants, has a skin head, and looks like he's into self harm by the shape his skin is in, you can pretty much take it that he's not trying to appeal to the mainstream.

    When you see a charismatic female singing beautifully with a strong melodic backing...

    ...well.
    I think we all know where I'm going here.

    I really don't. Please enlighten me. We get it, you like this song.

    Also, Parabol, down tone and morbid? Did you actually listen to it?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29 Spagetti Hair


    keith16 wrote: »
    I really don't. Please enlighten me. We get it, you like this song.

    Also, Parabol, down tone and morbid? Did you actually listen to it?

    I listen to a little bit.

    The music video was beginning to freak me out though.

    As far as the music itself went, all I picked up on was...

    /bom-bom-bom *some growling here - kind of sounds like a dude try to wretch* bom-bom-bom

    Sorry, but despite your opinion, that, does not = mainstream


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,798 ✭✭✭✭DrumSteve


    I listen to a little bit.

    The music video was beginning to freak me out though.

    As far as the music itself went, all I picked up on was...

    /bom-bom-bom *some growling here - kind of sounds like a dude try to wretch* bom-bom-bom

    Sorry, but despite your opinion, that, does not = mainstream

    You should listen to the whole thing before commenting on it. Parabol/Parabola is an amazing piece of work.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,944 ✭✭✭✭Links234


    /bom-bom-bom *some growling here - kind of sounds like a dude try to wretch* bom-bom-bom

    Something's very, very wrong with your ears.


    and now, time for...

    FIRESOUL UP IN THIS MOTHER****ER!! :pac:



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 387 ✭✭Dark Artist


    ITT: Gigantic music snobs. Then again, this is the internet so what do you expect.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,642 ✭✭✭✭Mr. CooL ICE


    Woah, what is that **** assaulting my eardrums.

    I'll take generic any day ahead of that.
    ...the Tool song that was posted, which is down tone and morbid by intent...
    I listen to a little bit.

    The music video was beginning to freak me out though.

    As far as the music itself went, all I picked up on was...

    /bom-bom-bom *some growling here - kind of sounds like a dude try to wretch* bom-bom-bom

    Sorry, but despite your opinion, that, does not = mainstream

    You didn't listen to the song at all, did you?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,031 ✭✭✭✭bnt


    I listened to about half of it. It's just sub-Evanescence fluff, and I don't like Evanescence or any of these "metal" bands with female vocalists.

    Don't get me started on "Christian Rock" - why not just "Rock"? For example, several of the guys in Dream Theater are Christians, and Christian-type themes sometimes appear in their work, but they manage to make them work for a wider audience. Rock is more important than any message - or should be - in my opinion.

    Death has this much to be said for it:
    You don’t have to get out of bed for it.
    Wherever you happen to be
    They bring it to you—free.

    — Kingsley Amis



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,061 ✭✭✭PickledLime


    Now't wrong with the OP's choice of music, a bit of fairly uneventful, guitar-based pop. Not bad, but not particularly memorable IMO.

    The fact that he/she thinks Parabol/Parabola is all 'roaarrr-bummm-tsccchhh-arrgh!' means that anything even vaguely left-of-field isn't for them. Which is fine because we're all entitled to own choices.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,258 ✭✭✭Numina


    Ramstein?

    I think what would call "in your face", is more what I would define as "up your ass".

    God damn that guys voice grates on me.

    Get out. Just...go.

    While your conflict toward everything that isn't your opinion has been mildly entertaining at best, maybe you should just give up and accept that your taste differs wildly from most people here and your high-horse comments about Tool being a band of minority appeal and a metal band being too metal for you just aren't going to be taken without strife.

    Basically what you've done is come to a place where people express their love for innovative and emotive music that ranges from the tonal genius of Jimi Hendrix and Gary Moore to the absolutely gutteral, ear wounding blasts of bands like Nile and Necrophagist and said "Nah lads, that's all a load of shíte, Fireflight is the new standard in music. These guys are the one band that people will look back on and think "Jaysus, the likes of Beethoven, Miles Davis and Micheal Jackson simply pale in comparison to the sheer unimaginable brilliance of Fireflight.""

    I imagine that in a few years time when Fireflight break up because they realise that their shot at fame was just another forgotten wave in the ocean that is the music industry, you'll still be there, rooting for them as if they're the new sliced bread of music. Well root away, but don't be surprised to find that nobody else is with you.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,061 ✭✭✭PickledLime


    This ^^

    I get the feeling we're feeding a troll though.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 841 ✭✭✭JBnaglfar


    ITT: Gigantic music snobs. Then again, this is the internet so what do you expect.

    A little harsh. OP posted a song, others considered it bland - an opinion which I share. I've generally found this forum to be very open and respectful, and posters to have a fairly diverse range of interests. I have never considered it snobbish tbh.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,065 ✭✭✭✭Malice


    bnt wrote: »
    I listened to about half of it. It's just sub-Evanescence fluff, and I don't like Evanescence or any of these "metal" bands with female vocalists.
    If you think Evanescence are the standard by which female-fronted rock or metal bands are to be judged then I despair. Why have you put metal in quotes? Are you trying to imply that by not having some hairy bloke growling the bands are invalid in some way?

    As for Fireflight, they're just pretty unremarkable radio-friendly American rock. That song is not bad as such, it's just not that interesting either. Background music for the car during the morning commute I suppose.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29 Spagetti Hair


    Malice wrote: »
    Background music for the car during the morning commute I suppose.

    safe_image.php?d=AQAGt_Ayd2Yq0RtC&url=http%3A%2F%2Fi4.ytimg.com%2Fvi%2FCBDvS3Xtn5g%2Fhqdefault.jpg

    Right on!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,558 ✭✭✭weisses



    When you see a charismatic female singing beautifully with a strong melodic backing...

    ...well.
    I think we all know where I'm going here.

    Me too :cool:




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 807 ✭✭✭groovie


    weisses wrote: »
    Me too :cool:



    That's an incredibly funny tune. Thanks for posting.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,345 ✭✭✭Somnus


    Gotta say I'm surprised by peoples reactions a bit.

    I don't find the song very interesting. It's not unlistenable, just not my thing. And the OP isn't attacking Tool or any of the other bands posted. Just likewise saying that it's not their type of music either.

    The Rock & Metal forum is meant to be a friendly place! No one wants to post a song and be judged for it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,798 ✭✭✭✭DrumSteve


    Dr.Poca wrote: »
    Gotta say I'm surprised by peoples reactions a bit.

    I don't find the song very interesting. It's not unlistenable, just not my thing. And the OP isn't attacking Tool or any of the other bands posted. Just likewise saying that it's not their type of music either.

    The Rock & Metal forum is meant to be a friendly place! No one wants to post a song and be judged for it.

    No one was judging him though :)

    He asked what we thought of it and I posted my opinion on it. And to be fair he did kinda attack Tool and described Rammstein as "up your ass".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,345 ✭✭✭Somnus


    There's a fairly negative tone to a lot of responses IMO.
    DrumSteve wrote: »
    described Rammstein as "up your ass".

    But that's a quite apt description of a lot of Rammstein songs! They like people to feel that way, just think of Buch Dich and the Pussy video. I wouldn't see it as an attack.
    And Parabol is downbeat and melancholy sounding, before it kicks into Parabola. So I wouldn't see that as an attack either.


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