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Manchester United Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 11/12

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  • #9452
    SirDelboy18
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,988 ✭✭✭SirDelboy18


    G.K. wrote: »
    I thought Nani was excellent out there yesterday.

    Thought so too. Pity Postiga is atrocious.


  • #9453
    RGDATA!
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,324 ✭✭✭RGDATA!


    G.K. wrote: »
    I thought Nani was excellent out there yesterday.

    he was decent if not excellent for me, and i thought he rushed/made the wrong decision with that last chance


  • #9454
    mufcboy1999
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,970 ✭✭✭mufcboy1999


    I missed the portugal v Germany game, caught the full time analysis and the lads in the rte studio seemed to give nani and ronaldo a bit of a roasting, going by what they said you'd swear they were awful.

    On twitter People are going over board on messi's performance in a frendily game vs ronaldos against a strong German team in the euros where there's a lot of pressure.

    I feel sorry for ronaldo, as soon as he has a quiet game and doesnt score he attracts a lot of critism at least from the likes of the lads at rte who clearly don't rate him which is pathetic as he is obviously the only thing close to messi and tbh IMO there's not much between the 2, but messi seems to be given a pass when he has a quiet game where as ronaldo doesn't but anyway nani seems to be hated similar to ronaldo by the likes of dunphy ! It actually annoys the life out of me.


  • #9455
    _blank_
    Closed Accounts Posts: 41,926 ✭✭✭✭_blank_


    Lewandowski isn't a particularly pacey forward, but he has an innate ability to get on the end of moves, be in the right place at the right time.

    Now, in the modern game, that means keeping up with play, being integral early in a move and then moving on quickly to finish it, so he can work well with the "in the hole" or "trequartista" player, the midfielders and link properly with the inside or outside forwards and be there to finish off moves.

    He'd work well with Rooney and Kagawa, but play a subty dofferent role with each.

    Would be a decent signing for United, but not a priority at the moment.

    Sort another midfielder first.


  • #9456
    Kylo Ren
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,364 ✭✭✭✭Kylo Ren


    Where would he play tho?

    Assuming our new top formation will be:
    Rooney

    Valencia
    Kagawa
    Nani

    Substitute? On the Wing? Play two up top and have one winger?


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  • #9457
    _blank_
    Closed Accounts Posts: 41,926 ✭✭✭✭_blank_


    4-1-3-2


  • #9458
    kryogen
    Closed Accounts Posts: 25,953 ✭✭✭✭kryogen


    Be more likely a variation of a 4-3-1-2 I'd say.

    Wouldn't be ideal though


  • #9459
    _blank_
    Closed Accounts Posts: 41,926 ✭✭✭✭_blank_


    no wide men?:confused: Ferguson doesn't play with no wide men.


  • #9460
    Kylo Ren
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,364 ✭✭✭✭Kylo Ren


    Des wrote: »
    4-1-3-2

    Fergie play 1 CM? No way imo.

    We won't sign him anyway.


  • #9461
    kryogen
    Closed Accounts Posts: 25,953 ✭✭✭✭kryogen


    Thats why I said wouldn't be ideal :)

    Would be playing Val and Nani/Young in a more withdrawn role, giving width in possession, tightening up without it, Val would be fine I'm sure, but wouldn't be as confident on the other side.

    eg

    ---Carrick---
    Val Nani
    Kag
    Lew
    Rooney

    xmass tree maybe?

    Val---Carrick---Nani
    ----Kag----Roon---
    Lew

    Don't think anything there is ideal though

    The only system that I think he would be going with Lew is with Kag on the left, Rooney just behind Lew and Val or Nani on the right

    Id rather not sign him and get the midfielder we really need to get instead.


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  • #9462
    _blank_
    Closed Accounts Posts: 41,926 ✭✭✭✭_blank_


    Carrick----
    Val---KaG---Rooney--Nani
    Lew


  • #9463
    _blank_
    Closed Accounts Posts: 41,926 ✭✭✭✭_blank_


    But this is better
    kryogen wrote: »

    Id rather not sign him and get the midfielder we really need to get instead.


  • #9464
    Kylo Ren
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,364 ✭✭✭✭Kylo Ren


    Des wrote: »
    Carrick----
    Val---KaG---Rooney--Nani
    Lew

    The-office-gifs-the-office-14948948-240-196.gif


  • #9465
    kryogen
    Closed Accounts Posts: 25,953 ✭✭✭✭kryogen


    ^ that would never happen anyway, far too offensive


  • #9466
    J. Marston
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,220 ✭✭✭✭J. Marston


    Des wrote: »
    Carrick----
    Val---KaG---Rooney--Nani
    Lew

    Maybe in FIFA 12 if you're desperate for a goal.


  • #9467
    _blank_
    Closed Accounts Posts: 41,926 ✭✭✭✭_blank_


    Phil Jones behind Carrick in that formation would be like a boss tbh.

    Duncan Edwardsing it all over the place


  • #9468
    adox
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,018 ✭✭✭✭adox


    kryogen wrote: »
    ^ that would never happen anyway, far too offensive

    Certainly offended Keno 92 anyway. :pac:

    Seriously though, £50 million spent last summer, money already being spent this summer.

    If we don't sign "that" midfielder this summer I think I'll have a little cry.


  • #9469
    Eathrin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,076 ✭✭✭Eathrin


    How good is Powell who we've apparently closed in on signing?


  • #9470
    MagicMarker
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 32,865 ✭✭✭✭MagicMarker


    Eathrin wrote: »
    How good is Powell who we've apparently closed in on signing?

    This good...



    and this good...



  • #9471
    Blatter
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,832 ✭✭✭✭Blatter


    Eathrin wrote: »
    How good is Powell who we've apparently closed in on signing?

    We've been ''closing in'' on him for around 3 weeks at this stage :pac:

    He's a talented 18 year old forward thinking midfielder that has potential. Difficult to judge how good he actually is at the moment as he's been playing his football in league two.


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  • #9472
    ziggyman17
    Registered Users Posts: 1,422 ✭✭✭ziggyman17


    Eathrin wrote: »
    How good is Powell who we've apparently closed in on signing?


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=jxBGmPUDG5Y

    looks like he has lots of potential, will be a better bet to make it than our last couple of punts.. e.g. Bebe and Obertan..


  • #9473
    Unearthly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,047 ✭✭✭Unearthly


    Zeppi wrote: »
    He will be ideal to replace Berba...
    http://www.totalfootballmadness.com/2012/06/09/man-utd-agree-16-million-deal-for-robert-lewandowski/

    I believe Welbeck is Berbatov's replacement and he would have been sold last year but was kept incase Welbeck bombed as a first choice player.


  • #9474
    Will I Amnt
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,222 ✭✭✭✭Will I Amnt


    If there's no room for Berbatov in the team due to a change in the way we play then there's no chance we will be looking at Lewandowski.


  • #9475
    TheTownie
    Registered Users Posts: 4,177 ✭✭✭TheTownie


    Blatter wrote: »
    Yeah he's pacey enough.

    Whos faster? Welbeck or Lewandowski?


  • #9476
    Will I Amnt
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,222 ✭✭✭✭Will I Amnt


    TheTownie wrote: »
    Blatter wrote: »
    Yeah he's pacey enough.

    Whos faster? Welbeck or Lewandowski?
    Lewandowski is not considered fast.It would be a weakness in his game imo but his positioning and finishing make up for it.


  • #9477
    Blatter
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,832 ✭✭✭✭Blatter


    TheTownie wrote: »
    Whos faster? Welbeck or Lewandowski?

    Nope, Welbeck is quicker.
    cambo2008 wrote: »
    Lewandowski is not considered fast.It would be a weakness in his game imo but his positioning and finishing make up for it.

    I've only seen him play a few times and from what I saw I didn't think he lacked pace at all. He's not a speed demon or anything, but he's quick enough, very agile and is a strong runner. He would suit our system far more than Berbatov anyway because he plays off the last shoulder, Berba doesn't.

    But I'd agree with others in that I don't really see the need for him when we have Welbeck, Hernandez, Rooney and Kagawa already, as ideally only 2 of those should play together at one time unless Fergie plans to change one of their positions.


  • #9478
    markc1184
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,084 ✭✭✭markc1184


    I see Benzema has come out and said United have tried to sign him for each of the last 3 or 4 seasons. He has really come on in the last couple of seasons with Real. Would have liked to see him sign when he left Lyon.


  • #9479
    kryogen
    Closed Accounts Posts: 25,953 ✭✭✭✭kryogen


    Lewandowski is no slouch, I have seen him play a few times now and although he is no Tony Valencia he is hardly Per Mertesacker!

    As keeps being said, unless someone is being shipped out I really don't see a need for him and would prefer the money go elsewhere, though I should again point out that I don't actually believe he will be joining anyway


  • #9480
    kryogen
    Closed Accounts Posts: 25,953 ✭✭✭✭kryogen


    markc1184 wrote: »
    I see Benzema has come out and said United have tried to sign him for each of the last 3 or 4 seasons. He has really come on in the last couple of seasons with Real. Would have liked to see him sign when he left Lyon.

    Where did he say that?

    We did try sign him sure, he choose Madrid, I thought it was the wrong decision but he has really come on under JM so would obviously be open to the possibility of him joining, don't ever actually see it happening though and don't believe United have really tried to sign him the last 3 out of 4 seasons, all these French lads love to talk don't they!


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  • #9481
    Blatter
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,832 ✭✭✭✭Blatter


    I do think we could be in for him though, even though it doesn't make a whole lot of sense in my mind.

    The fact that his agent came out and said we were interested a few weeks ago along with the rumours of an Arsenal executive stating off the record that we enquired about RVP, it sounds like we could be in for a high quality striker.


  • #9482
    markc1184
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,084 ✭✭✭markc1184


    kryogen wrote: »
    Where did he say that?

    We did try sign him sure, he choose Madrid, I thought it was the wrong decision but he has really come on under JM so would obviously be open to the possibility of him joining, don't ever actually see it happening though and don't believe United have really tried to sign him the last 3 out of 4 seasons, all these French lads love to talk don't they!

    I seen it on the Sky Sports twitter feed. Presume it's on their website too. Like everything else, whether the quotes are accurate or not is another thing.

    Says on their site that the quotes come from The Sun so probably not a whole lot of truth behind it.


  • #9483
    SirDelboy18
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,988 ✭✭✭SirDelboy18


    kryogen wrote: »
    Where did he say that?

    We did try sign him sure, he choose Madrid, I thought it was the wrong decision but he has really come on under JM so would obviously be open to the possibility of him joining, don't ever actually see it happening though and don't believe United have really tried to sign him the last 3 out of 4 seasons, all these French lads love to talk don't they!

    We tried to sign him that summer and the following January when the Madrid move didn't seem to be working. After that, there's no confirmation either way.


  • #9484
    kryogen
    Closed Accounts Posts: 25,953 ✭✭✭✭kryogen


    Yeah I read it myself there (the Benzema thing) he says we tried to sign him the last 3 or 4 years!

    Mad if true.


  • #9485
    VW 1
    Registered Users Posts: 4,509 ✭✭✭VW 1


    Surely he would only know if Madrid were considering accepting our offer and asked was he interested, because if we spoke to him directly would that not be classed as tapping up?


  • #9486
    Mitch Connor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 46,277 ✭✭✭✭Mitch Connor


    VW 1 wrote: »
    Surely he would only know if Madrid were considering accepting our offer and asked was he interested, because if we spoke to him directly would that not be classed as tapping up?

    you can't tap up players in other countries, only domestically. it is no ggood behavior, but there is nothing illegal with it as Uefa don't have rules set down for it, so there are no rules broken.


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  • #9487
    Samich
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,949 ✭✭✭Samich


    markc1184 wrote: »
    I see Benzema has come out and said United have tried to sign him for each of the last 3 or 4 seasons. He has really come on in the last couple of seasons with Real. Would have liked to see him sign when he left Lyon.

    Is that including his time with Madrid?


  • #9488
    Owen_S
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,211 ✭✭✭Owen_S


    Des wrote: »
    Phil Jones behind Carrick in that formation would be like a boss tbh.

    Duncan Edwardsing it all over the place
    That awkward moment when you can't tell if somebody is serious or trolling :(


  • #9489
    VW 1
    Registered Users Posts: 4,509 ✭✭✭VW 1


    Mitch Connor wrote: »
    VW 1 wrote: »
    Surely he would only know if Madrid were considering accepting our offer and asked was he interested, because if we spoke to him directly would that not be classed as tapping up?

    you can't tap up players in other countries, only domestically. it is no ggood behavior, but there is nothing illegal with it as Uefa don't have rules set down for it, so there are no rules broken.

    That's something I never knew, so it's something that would be frowned upon rather than being against the rules? Any reason why it's just the PL that enforce this rule?


  • #9490
    markc1184
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,084 ✭✭✭markc1184


    Samich wrote: »
    Is that including his time with Madrid?

    Well the last 3 of 4 years would include his Madrid time alright. Thats the way ive taken it anyway.


  • #9491
    Samich
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,949 ✭✭✭Samich


    markc1184 wrote: »
    Well the last 3 of 4 years would include his Madrid time alright. Thats the way ive taken it anyway.

    Benzema is certainly a Fergie type player.


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  • #9492
    Eathrin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,076 ✭✭✭Eathrin


    I don't trust Jones yet fully as a centre back.
    I think he could make a great DCM though.


  • #9493
    VW 1
    Registered Users Posts: 4,509 ✭✭✭VW 1


    I don't know yet if Jones is best as a centre back right back or midfielder, i do think we will look back and say what we paid was a bargain for the footballer we got.


  • #9494
    enviro
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,292 ✭✭✭enviro


    VW 1 wrote: »
    i do think we will look back and say what we paid was a bargain for the footballer we got.

    Ye and he is just 20 years old. Plenty of room for improvement :)


  • #9495
    titan18
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,009 ✭✭✭✭titan18


    God, I want De Rossi so much


  • #9496
    MagicMarker
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 32,865 ✭✭✭✭MagicMarker


    titan18 wrote: »
    God, I want De Rossi so much
    Whatever you're into.


  • #9497
    kryogen
    Closed Accounts Posts: 25,953 ✭✭✭✭kryogen


    titan18 wrote: »
    God, I want De Rossi so much

    Personal Issues is that way dude!
    >

    No wait, that way

    <


  • #9498
    titan18
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,009 ✭✭✭✭titan18


    MagicMarker wrote: »
    Whatever you're into.
    kryogen wrote: »
    Personal Issues is that way dude!
    >

    No wait, that way

    <

    Ye know what I meant :p


  • #9499
    MagicMarker
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 32,865 ✭✭✭✭MagicMarker


    titan18 wrote: »
    Ye know what I meant :p
    Oh I know what you mean....

    wink_gif.gif


  • #9500
    kryogen
    Closed Accounts Posts: 25,953 ✭✭✭✭kryogen


    lol @ Balotelli


  • #9501
    Quandary
    Registered Users Posts: 5,343 ✭✭✭Quandary


    Modric was very good tonight, I wonder will we make a bid at some stage this summer....


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